DVLA V5 possible fraud, advise required

DVLA V5 possible fraud, advise required

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5554ndhu

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11 posts

41 months

Friday 15th January 2021
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Hi guys

First post, I've been lurking for years but usually just have a look at specific threads.

I had a strange thing happen to me and wanted to know if anybody has had this experience.

I had 2 dodgy guys of a certain type view my car on the 23rd December which I had up for sale, they looked at the logbook in front of me and at no time did they have the logbook without me being present. they made a silly offer which i refused and they went away. thinking back they were more interested in seeing the documents than the car!

Fast forward to this morning 15th Jan and DVLA send an acknowledgement that I am no longer the legal keeper of the vehicle and my road tax is cancelled etc.

I called up DVLA and they have said someone on the 25th December had transferred ownership online using the document reference number. They must of memorised the document reference number or something as they didn't have any phones out to take photos. Also only I've got access to my V5 and only took it out that day to show the potential buyer.

Is this potentially a scam to gain the logbook and clone another vehicle or take out logbook loans?

DVLA have frozen the logbook whilst they investigate but in the mean time my cars got no road tax and technically my insurance is void as I am no longer the registered keeper!!

Sorry mods if this is in the wrong forum section!

5554ndhu

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11 posts

41 months

Friday 15th January 2021
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I only have 1 key which was in my pocket as its keyless start and i still use the same key to operate the car. This connected to my house keys which I have in my possession.

5554ndhu

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11 posts

41 months

Friday 15th January 2021
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Really? Its a 2012 audi a7. Not really anything special or highly valuable.

5554ndhu

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11 posts

41 months

Friday 15th January 2021
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I was thinking along those lines or even a logbook loan against the car?

5554ndhu

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41 months

Friday 15th January 2021
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Where i live is a communal car park, my car is about 30 metres from my flat and I live on the 3rd floor. Thats why I'm more confused then ever as to why they did it. Or even how. The mind baffles

5554ndhu

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11 posts

41 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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Hi Guys

Just bumping this up incase someone has experenced this.

DVLA are saying 6-8 weeks with no more info.

Police said its 'intel' and for me to keep an eye on the car and if I can catch them in the act they will have a better chance at catching them when I call.

They won't be chasing the 'new person' named on the logbook as they don't see it as fraud. I've asked to put a marker on the car (i don't mind if i get stopped daily) but they refuse to do so unless it gets stolen. surely if cloned another car with the same plates is driving around and can easily be identified by ANPR?

Audi said if somebody comes into the dealership with the v5 they won't be able to program the keys without the car. Does anybody have any knowledge if that is true or not?

I just worry i'll wake up in the morning and have no car! Police and DVLA are not helping at all.

5554ndhu

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11 posts

41 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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Nope! dvla will have to investigate what I say is true and only then return the logbook back to me.

In the mean time someone could potentially get points and fines plus my car is not technically insured as I'm not the registered keeper anymore.

Dvla said park the car elsewhere until we resolve it. So for up to 8 weeks I'm expected to park my car elsewhere, the police also advised the same.

5554ndhu

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11 posts

41 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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as i'm not the registered keeper. DVLA told me that!

Still wondering if its true that audi cannot sync a key to the car without the car being present.

5554ndhu

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11 posts

41 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Hi,

I parked my car away until it was settled. Dvla issued a new logbook and removed them as an owner once I proved the car was mine. I had to send photos of the car and vin number on the chassis, they also ask the "new owner" to do the same but obviously they wouldn't be able to provide that information. I then took the car to audi and paid to have the keys reprogrammed for reassurance. I used a steering lock for a few months but recently stopped using it.

Also your car won't be taxed or insured as your not the legal owner!

Hope that helps.

What happened? Did they come to view the car and took a note of your reference number?

5554ndhu

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11 posts

41 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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Cio.vehicles@dvla.gov.uk

CAEG | DVLA | Swansea | SA6 7JL

01792 7862207

5554ndhu

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11 posts

41 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Hi

I luckily got this sorted. I had to email over my vin number within my car. Basically I had to prove the car was mine.

I shortly sold the car ASAP and washed my hands as like you I had no where else to park it and was worried that they’d come back. I also paid Audi to reprogram the keys at a cost of £200