RE: Hummer H1 back from the dead
Thursday 9th August 2012
Over here kit cars bring to mind butchered Ford Sierras, the smell of GRP resin and the choice of vaguely accurate 'replicas' or quirky self-designed one-offs. No surprise to hear the Americans do it a bit differently. And it's all a bit more ... manly and militaristic.
The H1 is going back to its off-road rootsYup, associations with The Governator, US military 'adventures' and more besides haven't completely killed off demand for the original H1 Hummer, despite the fact the passenger car business has been closed by GM and, after a 12-year run ending in 2006, only military production of the H1 at AM General remains.
Sadly kit doesn't include an engine. Or guns.Meaning you may be able to buy your H1 kit but it might not actually come with an engine. Which is one way of complying with emissions regs. Still, if you're the kind of guy who fancies building and driving an H1 it's likely you're the kind of guy who takes pride in being resourceful enough to go out and find your own engine.
Hummer H1 back from the dead
Can't kick the Hummer habit? Build your own then!
The H1 is going back to its off-road roots
But if you really, really want an H1 you can still have one. You'll have to build it yourself though, Hummerguy.net reporting that a solution has been reached by selling them in knock-down form. The, er, minefield (legal, not actual) that's followed the death of the civilian Hummer brand has been the sticking point, together with legislative complexities involving making the H1 meet safety and emissions rules.
Sadly kit doesn't include an engine. Or guns.
Evidence of where it all went wrong for the Hummer brand can, meanwhile, be found easily enough in our own PH classifieds, the link here not for the squeamish or easily offended.
Discussion
I thought I was strong, my breakfast was plain and I can watch horror movies with ease but the "car" in the link from Classified- oh dear God in heaven!
Surely if you bought that you could only take it out late at night so small children didn't see it?
The original H1 has a kind of function over form beauty (abit like a Caterham, Land Rover or racing car) clearly built for a specific task so you accept the lack of any styling.
The H2 (If I'm correct) is just an uglier body on a Tahoe (which isn't an attractive car), some chap down here has a yellow one and its always plastered with flies, frankly the only thing its good for is killing bugs IMO.
Surely if you bought that you could only take it out late at night so small children didn't see it?
The original H1 has a kind of function over form beauty (abit like a Caterham, Land Rover or racing car) clearly built for a specific task so you accept the lack of any styling.
The H2 (If I'm correct) is just an uglier body on a Tahoe (which isn't an attractive car), some chap down here has a yellow one and its always plastered with flies, frankly the only thing its good for is killing bugs IMO.
collateral said:
I was under the impression that the mil spec HMMMMVVMMVVMMV and H1 are considerably different beasts
they are, literally completely different.one is based on an SUV, the other is the actual military vee-hickle.
edit: technically the H2 is different bits of different things, but the point remains.
Having driven an H1 many years ago in the US I will never forget just how little space there was in such a big vehicle had. It's only a four seater with each seat being pushed to a corner of the cabin, and with the rear of the engine, the gearbox and drivetrain sitting between the passengers there is significantly less space than in a LR Defender and almost no elbow room in any of the seats. A Land Rover a is much more comfortable place to be,
Make no mistake, this is a military vehicle first and passenger transport second.
Make no mistake, this is a military vehicle first and passenger transport second.
AntB said:
collateral said:
I was under the impression that the mil spec HMMMMVVMMVVMMV and H1 are considerably different beasts
they are, literally completely different.one is based on an SUV, the other is the actual military vee-hickle.
edit: technically the H2 is different bits of different things, but the point remains.
The H2 is a GM Pickup/SUV with body panels designed to make it look like a HMMWV.
"Gulzar, your next car is here..."collateral said:
I was under the impression that the mil spec HMMMMVVMMVVMMV and H1 are considerably different beasts
The H1 and the military version Humve are actually very very close to each other. The H1 is still a Hummer built from solid stuff and based on the same chassis as the mil spec Humvee. The main differences are in interior (comfy seats, air-con, electric windows) and gloss automotive paint finish. They also share most of the main driveline components with the Mil spec and are/were considered quite correctly to be a "civilian Spec Humve". Thank Arnold Schwarzenegger for it going on sale 
The H2 and H3 are just rebodied SUV's (Chevrolet Tahoe and GMC Canyon respectively) with Hummer badges and not tough at all.
Hummer H2 head on collision....
Hummer H1/Humvee head on....
AntB said:
they are, literally completely different.
one is based on an SUV, the other is the actual military vee-hickle.
edit: technically the H2 is different bits of different things, but the point remains.
Yup, quite a bit of difference between the two. And that's before you get to the ex US military vehicles which have had armor plating and a load of other options fitted afterwards.one is based on an SUV, the other is the actual military vee-hickle.
edit: technically the H2 is different bits of different things, but the point remains.
This is quite a rare beast for our shores;
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C295578
Edited by Hellbound on Thursday 9th August 11:44
There is a first time for everything. I am not joking when I say the images of that H2 Hummer actually made me feel nauseous. There cannot possibly be anyone with taste that bad, it must be a show car with extras stuck on!
As said above. I like H1 Hummers because they are purely functional. Functional cars look good because they are simple. I like older cars like the landy Defender, Mk1/Mk2 Caddy/Golfs etc. It's all about the bold, simple styling!
As said above. I like H1 Hummers because they are purely functional. Functional cars look good because they are simple. I like older cars like the landy Defender, Mk1/Mk2 Caddy/Golfs etc. It's all about the bold, simple styling!
arkenphel said:
xRIEx said:
What I want to know is, what are the safety rules that it can't comply with?
It;s the one where anyone who crashes into it usually dies...possibly.I'm sure the occupants are normally ok...
The H1, as has been said above, is a military vehicle which really shouldn't ever have gained sales traction on public roads.
This study says a lot imho: -
http://news.consumerreports.org/cars/2009/10/humme...
I love mil spec vehicles but they have a place and imho and it isn't doing the school run in California.
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