RE: MazdaSpeed MX5
Monday 17th January 2005

MazdaSpeed MX5

Gareth Wardell sums up the cheeky Mazda MX5 roadster


The Chinese proverb, “Why bother to clean the rice if it’s selling briskly?” sums up the phenomenal success of Mazda’s MX5. Introduced in 1989, over 800,000 have been sold world-wide, accomplished with an occasional design tweak and new safety feature, a testament to the sheer “rightness” of the original design. It has go-kart like handling, but enthusiasts have sought more power. In desperation for more oomph fans of the chuckable little roadster have been shoe-horning everything from air induction kits to V8 engines under that lithe bonnet. Before an all-new model arrives, Mazda offers its salute to a great roadster with a hot edition, the MazdaSpeed MX5 – turbocharged.


For a brief time in the early nineties, Brodie Brittain Racing supplied an officially sanctioned turbo for the UK market. There’s a well-designed, popular after-market supercharger available, but only now has Mazda decided to give the engine the wallop it has always needed. Before I compare this (probably) last MX5 with the original version I own, here’s an insider’s view of its history.

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With all the wild choice we have today in sports cars, it’s difficult to imagine how few roadsters existed before the MX5 gave the car industry a well aimed kick in the cohunes. Automobilia naturalists had sparse choice: expensive exotica Ferrari and Lamborghini, limited production TVRs, (still considered a kit-car company back then) eccentric Morgans, and 944 Porsche convertibles -- convertible isn’t as romantic sounding as sports car.

And in answer to the umpteenth plea from MG lovers to restart production of that beloved marque, a snooty British executive opined, “Our weather is not conducive to open air driving. Drivers have long abandoned the sports car market.”

Like countless car suits before him he was spectacularly wrong. The car industry abandoned sports car enthusiasts. In a way, it’s just as well he was blind as well as deaf, otherwise we might have been given more sports cars that rattled, dripped oil, leaked, had Smith’s electrics, and live rear axles. Hold on, they did give us one: the Rover MGR V8.

The arrogance got worse. At a car show where the MX5 stand was crowded with admirers and the MGR stand conspicuously quiet, a Rover executive was heard to sneer of the MX5, “It’s Japanese. It doesn’t have any sports car heritage.” Exactly what did he think twenty-two years of MG non-production constituted? It took a cynical sales exercise from BMW in the Z3 to alter everything. After that it was open season.

The MX5 is not a copy of the Lotus Elan. The Elan was one of many 60s European sports cars that Mazda studied. It borrowed Colin Chapman’s philosophy, “speed through lightness,” but look closely at the MX5 and you can see the influence of the Jaguar E-Type in the bonnet’s raised swage line, the Alfa Romeo chrome handles, and the traditional green glow of the dash dials. The final design was honed at Mazda R&D in California.

Yes, the MX5 is a clever amalgam of design cues to jog our sub-conscious but that isn’t enough; the magic ingredient for big sales is a reliable Japanese engine.

I define roadster as under two litres, fun, dependable, cheap to run, with low maintenance. The MX5 is all that and more. It was designed in the late eighties when Mazda was cash-rich, the aim, to build a “roadster fit for the nineties.”

The company didn’t skimp on anything. Nothing was overlooked, not even the hood. It had to be easy-to-use and leak-proof. Once sales took off other manufacturers suddenly discovered their sporting roots and produced a roadster or a sports car. None quite got it right, or as good value for money. So, how does the original model compare with the new? Have things improved or regressed?

The turbo/supercharger

The 1.8-litre turbo has contemporary flush headlights and beefed-up haunches, the oval mouth replaced by a cheeky smile. The 1.6 supercharged-roadster has the cute pop-up headlights known as wind-brakes, and svelte lines. The supercharger comes with a year’s warranty, the turbo with a factory warranty and a warm fuzzy feeling of establishment security. The turbo generates 178bhp at 6,000 rpm, and 166 lb-ft of torque at 4,500 rpm. The supercharger boosts the 1.6 (there’s a 1.8 version too) from 128 horsepower to 160, and there’s torque from the bottom end right up to 90mph, at which point that Subaru sails by.

Driving

In the new, stomp hard on the pedal and there’s no turbo lag. The supercharger has an ingenious petrol-saving cut-off once you level your speed, the turbo keeps going on command. There’s the same wrist-flicking gear change, but now it’s six-speed. I’ve never understood why other brands didn’t take the gearbox apart and copy its superb action.

Koni adjustable shocks lower the car, with 16-inch Panasport wheels - American copies of Minilites. The Mazdaspeed comes with 17-inch Racing Hart wheels. They are fitted with Toyo 205/40 W-rated tyres.

The disc brakes are effective and progressive. Stock brakes are almost adequate for the task, as are the original car’s speakers, but the new car has a superior 225-watt Bose system with the dividend of an automatic volume sensing adjustment. A spare tyre crowds the boot, but is recessed in the new car.

The original car is lighter - fewer layers of paint, no crash bars, abs, or air bags. The new car weighs in at 40Kg heavier than the stock version yet is just as quick, a claimed 6.6 to 60.

And the new interior uses good quality materials. My nasty plastics were junked to be redesigned in leather with alloy highlights. A pull-lever opens my boot while the turbo luxuriates in a key ring button for automatic locking/unlocking everything.

Minus points

There are a few disappointments. Those light five-spoke alloys give the wheels an empty, insubstantial appearance. And I’m still trying to work out why my six-feet height didn’t quite fit in the new version. The turbo has a horrible in-your-face array of BMW-red illuminated dials and switches. On motorways, the tyres are noisy. And, like my own car, the lowered suspension causes it to tramline on certain surfaces, a sure sign a car has been fettled a percentage too far. Other than that, the MazdaSpeed is still a great drive.

Summary

How Mazda will follow this simple, unpretentious car will certainly be a challenge. It needs to be bigger inside, and to have a choice of engines from its introduction. Meanwhile, Mazda has given us a great swan-song - and an entire industry of roadsters.

© Gareth Wardell 2004
Los Angeles

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z_chromozone

Original Poster:

1,436 posts

275 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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Are they selling the in the USA????

Z

morbius

29 posts

261 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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Any clue on when the replacement for the MX5 will be announced???

Any idea of what we can expect?

Morbius

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

280 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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morbius said:
Any clue on when the replacement for the MX5 will be announced???

Any idea of what we can expect?

Morbius


Very late this year, a bigger car than the old mx-5 with a 1.8 or 2.0 I4.

Bill Carr

2,234 posts

260 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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Why isn't this car for sale in the UK?

flasheegee

20 posts

261 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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The Miata/MX5 is an Legend and an very cool
Car with an Good Price with solid Quality.
Check these Aussie Made Mx-5!
www.bulletcars.com/

dinkel

27,684 posts

284 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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www.eunos.com/keith/iceracer.html

There are loads of upgraded Miata / MX5s.

I see the current model as a TR4 so let's bring on the TR6!

Never understood why Mazda didn't use the 2 litre 6pot . . .

It's a fine cruiser that could do with a nice 2.4 6 inline . . . Turbo I dunno.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

280 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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dinkel said:

Never understood why Mazda didn't use the 2 litre 6pot . . .

It's a fine cruiser that could do with a nice 2.4 6 inline . . . Turbo I dunno.


They always saw it as a ;cheap' car and anything over the 1.8 would push it up to £20k in the UK. I gues they only brought in the 1.8 because the old 1.6 115bhp had to be binned due to emmissions.

They could easily put the 1.8 or2.0 v6, 2.3I4 or a rotary in it, but its not what they think is right for the segment, cant argue with em either.

Newromancer

703 posts

288 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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I'm not really known of beeing a fan of Japanese cars, but I love the MX5!

One of the best modern Roadsters ... great top down fun!

However, If I might add, the current car has a few problems that stayed unmentioned.

The light and slippy rear might be great fun, but gripps so little that it makes the car almost unusable in Austrian-winters. (A Better weight balance and optional lock differential could do the trick.)

The steraing is great - adorable! - but the suspention could be a bit more sophisticated. Yes, it was suposed to be a cheap cruiser - and it is a wonderful one! A few more quites for a bit more sporty technology would be well spent - you want to take it on curvy roads ... the car just beggs you to do so ... is it demandet too much to make sure it will glue on the road?

And finally, it is small. Even smaller then the MG, ... which is fine, as long as you can keep the hood down. Please Mazda, think about the tall grown customers ... they might end up with an Z3, can you take the responsibility for that?

Ohh, and about the engine thing ... forget the supercharger, if you want to upgrate the engine, offer something with a bit more torque, it is supposed to be a cruiser ... don't forget that! (We allready have an Honda S2000, we don't need a nother one.)

Bill Carr

2,234 posts

260 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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Torque is good, but I do think the Renesis engine could be good deployed in a "racier" version of the MX5, maybe a little coupe... RX badged perhaps? How cool would that be? Light but powerful engine in a tiny body.

thegreatsoprendo

5,288 posts

275 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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Newromancer said:

Ohh, and about the engine thing ... forget the supercharger, if you want to upgrate the engine, offer something with a bit more torque


I'm confused. In what way does a supercarger not increase torque??

BliarOut

72,863 posts

265 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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Rotary engined MX-5... Now that would be interesting... The rotary is only a small lump isn't it? Wouldn't want to upset the balance, but a little more go would make it perfect

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

280 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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BliarOut said:
Rotary engined MX-5... Now that would be interesting... The rotary is only a small lump isn't it? Wouldn't want to upset the balance, but a little more go would make it perfect


Its tiny and very light, and would go great, cant see it adding that much cost onto the RX8, no idea why they dont give it a go, mebee easier in the next gen as its based on the RX8's underpinnings.

thegreatsoprendo

5,288 posts

275 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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RobDickinson said:

BliarOut said:
Rotary engined MX-5... Now that would be interesting... The rotary is only a small lump isn't it? Wouldn't want to upset the balance, but a little more go would make it perfect



...no idea why they dont give it a go...

Aren't Mazda planning on bringing out a replacement RX-7, in which case a rotary MX-5 wouldn't make much sense as it would be treading on the toes of the rex?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

280 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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A 4th gen RX7 (or new RX9) decision hasnt been made public yet, AFIK from someone in ford design its still undecided but a probable go-er. Rumours say either a 1.5 twin rotor or an electricly assisted 1.3 turbo.

Gentelman

183 posts

270 months

Tuesday 18th January 2005
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Bob Hall, the MX-5 chief designer fought the concept of a turbo/supercharged Miata for a long time. He argued that turbos necessitated bigger brakes, suspension, wheels, safety, all that would bring weight, reduce reliability and take away from the fun of a lightweight, easy-to use, and most importantly, fun car. Interesting that he did favor a 2.0 engine as opposed to 1.8.

www.miata.net/misc/bobhall.html

chimburt

751 posts

285 months

Tuesday 18th January 2005
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does anyone actually have the specs?
they're well hidden in the article
which model is which, how much do they weigh, engine figures?

golem

58 posts

283 months

Wednesday 19th January 2005
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Me personally, I hope some people in Mazda are looking backwards for inspiration on moving forwards. Not in style, or 'retro', goodness knows we've had enough of that.

Just simple good looks, good proportions, and a choice of piston 2.0 MX-5 or Rotary RX-5. On is cheaper but still very well engineered in the chassis that tons of people will love, and make you grin. The other, is a tiny god that you will sell everything you own and then some stuff that isn't even yours to own.

Black s2k

1,852 posts

275 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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The new MX-5 is a little bigger (reminiscent of the Z3) but fortunately looks like the old car with an RX-8 nose.

The rotary will not fit in the current car without a huge re-design:

The power shaft comes out of the middle of the engine not the bottom.

The RX-8 gearbox has a higher input shaft,the rpopshaft connects to the lower output shaft as a result.

Taller tranny tunnel and bulkhead required.

danmangt40

296 posts

310 months

Friday 28th January 2005
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^interesting. Why are rotaries mounted so that the eccentricity of the rotor housing is up-down rather than side-side? there must be a reason for that.

sparkythecat

8,087 posts

281 months

Friday 28th January 2005
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flasheegee said:

The Miata/MX5 is an Legend and an very cool
Car with an Good Price with solid Quality.
Check these Aussie Made Mx-5!
www.bulletcars.com/


Hope the cars are better built than that website, it's cack!