RE: SOTW: MGF 1.8i VVC
Friday 9th October 2009

SOTW: MGF 1.8i VVC

Tough times for the TF gets Shed reminiscing about days gone by...


Original still looks good today
Original still looks good today
The news this week that MG’s Chinese masters have temporarily shut down the Longbridge MG TF production line has got us thinking about early examples of this oft-maligned little roadster.

The latest episode in the MG saga is no surprise – a decade-and-a-half old design gets launched in the middle of a recession and nobody buys the car, who’d have thought it? – but it is the latest in a long line of rather sad tales under which the fact that the original MGF is actually rather a good car has been buried.

Five years after the the MX5 had revitalised the market for affordable two-seat roadsters, MG’s first attempt under Rover to pick up where they left off with the MGB may not have been everybody’s cup of tea, but the ‘F’ was very successful, and not without reason.

The early cars used technically intriguing Hydragas suspension, while the K-series 1.8 used Honda-derived variable valve timing technology to produce a healthy (and fruity-sounding) 143bhp.  And unlike the Sprites, Midgets and Bs that came before it, this time the engine was tucked in behind the driver for better weight balance.

Despite this, handling was not the car’s strongest point, with unfavourable comparisons to contemporary Japanese rivals like the MX5, MR2 and Suzuki’s diminutive Cappucino not helping the early car’s reputation. The high driving position was also a common gripe, and as time went on the famous head gasket problems made many think of the K-Series engine in the F as a bit of a liability.

"Short back and sides"
"Short back and sides"
But all was not doom and gloom. Far from it in fact: the early F’s 'cute' styling, garish paint options and pliant ride and that evocative octagon gave it broad appeal, and helped the F become a huge sales success. Though there is some debate on precise figures, the F was Britain’s best selling sports car for most of its production life, even outselling the MX5 for many of those years.

Many older Fs have succumbed to attrition, with blown headgaskets as well as more conventional problems of the loud and crashy variety taking them off the road. But plenty still survive, and this week’s shed seems like a nice example for less than a bag of sand (a couple of 'love marks' are to be expected at this price). It’s got the right engine (with head gasket 'done'), along with the standard ABS and power-steering that the VVC brought with it. It’s also in the right colour and, charmingly, it’s even got the right numberplate: P10 VVC. The admission that the suspension needs re-gassing is surely a good place to start haggling..

Advert reads:


1997 MG MGF 1.8i VVC 2dr Convertible

94,000 miles, 2 Door Convertible 1800 vvc, Petrol, Manual, british racing green, black half leather seats, remote central locking, tax till jan 2010 mot till jan 2010. head gasket done at 81.000 had new tyres & rear screen fitted, lack of use means the suspension needs gasing, no time wasters, canvassers, txts or e-mail number plate included (Walthamstow). £995

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Oily Nails

Original Poster:

2,932 posts

226 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Excuse me whilst I check this article for ironic humour.....








.....hmmmm nope......they are serious !




MGF driven by


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Freddie Star

Strawman

6,463 posts

233 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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The side profile reminds me of a Spyker


EDLT

15,421 posts

232 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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In before the argument!

dwilkie

2,222 posts

212 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Ooh this ones going to be violent. There'll be spray tans and beards all over the shop! coffee

markoc

1,084 posts

222 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Strawman said:
The side profile reminds me of a Spyker

Albeit only in as much as they both have wheels....

Lord Pikey

3,257 posts

241 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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I like it. If i was in the UK i would love it for 6 months of fun.

telecat

8,528 posts

267 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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The VVC Valve gear has nothing to do with Honda's layout in fact it makes it look rather crude!!! I'd also say that PRE-BMW K's didn't have any HGF problems. Only BMW's mods to make the engine "cheap" caused the HGF's.

Lewtyper

211 posts

204 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Strawman said:
The side profile reminds me of a Spyker

How?!!!

Motorrad

6,811 posts

213 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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I'll get this before the MG/Rover nutjobs arrive on the scene.


HGF failure is a myth.....plastic gaskets.......service it properly......most reliable car I ever owned....you people hate your country......die clarkson die it's all your fault.....most advanced engine ever in a road car, good enough for lotus and caterham you know..........it's not fair, it's not fair, it's not fair....................

Belfast Boy

855 posts

208 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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ppppfffttt!!! he he, he he hahahahahaahahaharofl

and people slagged of the Skoda the other week!!!! and least that wasn't a back to front METRO!rolleyes

SORRY!

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

216 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Trouble is, when you can get one for a grand, why would you want one for £16,000? This is the problem they have selling the new ones.

shouldbworking

4,799 posts

238 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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It doesnt look good, it never looked good. burn them all!

Mannginger

10,190 posts

283 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Motorrad said:
I'll get this before the MG/Rover nutjobs arrive on the scene.


HGF failure is a myth.....plastic gaskets.......service it properly......most reliable car I ever owned....you people hate your country......die clarkson die it's all your fault.....most advanced engine ever in a road car, good enough for lotus and caterham you know..........it's not fair, it's not fair, it's not fair....................
hehe So true! Not to mention an argument about them being the best contemporary cars at any point in time and a comment about how good the P4 was...

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

268 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Great shed.


Vidal Baboon

9,074 posts

241 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Lord Pikey said:
I like it. If i was in the UK i would love it for 6 months of fun.
Done it for the Spring/Summer.
An absolute hoot to drive, at sensible speeds too.

I did have my eye constantly on the temp gauge to start with, but I replaced that with just checking the coolant level every couple of days.

I'd deffinately have another one as a play thing- maybe a VVC in Red next time or TF160 if I can afford it.



Batster

263 posts

267 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Last month i saw an orange 09 plate MGF in my local high street - needless to say i did a double take to check that someone had actually shelled out for one of the "new" ones and then called Samaritans as the owner clearly needed help...

Just how many of the "new" Chineses owned ones have they sold since re-launch in the UK?? count them on the fingers on one hand i reckon

TomM

662 posts

221 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Hilarious car, so bad.

They are there for our amusment. Seing a bloke in one of these is superb, with the roof down even better - always cheers me up.

Total ste.

h4muf

2,070 posts

233 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Cheap wind in the hair motoring!

I would sooner buy a grands worth of eunos any day though smile

Strawman

6,463 posts

233 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Lewtyper said:
Strawman said:
The side profile reminds me of a Spyker
How?!!!
Similar shape, must be just me then


Windymiller

1,937 posts

266 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Jesus. Christ.

I can accept an MX5 on here, but an MGF? As seen on many a roundabout in the wet facing the wrong way with some marketing bint stood next to it. Truly awful sportscar for pikeys on a budget. And old men.