RE: Tokyo Motor Show Has Green Theme
RE: Tokyo Motor Show Has Green Theme
Thursday 22nd October 2009

Tokyo Motor Show Has Green Theme

Japanese car makers focus on saving the planet - mostly


Apart from a couple of notable exceptions like the Lexus LF-A and Toyota FT-86 coupe, most of the energy at this year's recession-blighted Tokyo motorshow has been expended on 'environmental' projects.

EVN mimics Honda's 1960s city car
EVN mimics Honda's 1960s city car
The Honda CR-Z has been revealed, with at least half a chance of appealing to sports driving tastes when it arrives in UK showrooms next year, but most of the new tech stuff is hardly likely to set enthusiasts' hearts racing.

It's a shame, as the Tokyo show has tradtionally been noted for its flights of fancy. However a couple of other concepts from the Japanese majors are worth a mention, including Honda's amusingly retro-styled EV-N - a small 4-seater battery electric vehicle, inspired by the N360, Honda's 360cc micro car launched in the 1960s.

It has solar cells on the roof which could be used to charge the on-board battery, is less than three metres long and has a width of 1475mm. It also has a pocket in each door for one of the weird U3-X gyroscopically controlled unicycles that Honda is also offering as part of the solution to urban travel problems.

The Subaru Hybrid Tourer
The Subaru Hybrid Tourer
Subaru in turn has revealed its Hybrid Tourer concept, which apart from being a relatively uninspiring jump onto the hybrid bandwagon, offers a new 'design language' which will apparently make its way onto future models - including that sharper new front fizzog.

There's no Tokyo show next year, but it's scheduled to return in 2011 - when hopefully it will have found its mojo!

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madtriumphman

Original Poster:

939 posts

210 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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bks to 'green' vehicles!!!

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

216 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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madtriumphman said:
bks to 'green' vehicles!!!
What an insightful contribution! Thanks for sharing.

I think the EVN looks great. It would be nice to have a few more details.

Agent Orange

2,194 posts

272 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Mr Gear said:
What an insightful contribution! Thanks for sharing.

I think the EVN looks great. It would be nice to have a few more details.
It's aerodynamic qualities for one. wink

I do like the look of that EVN but a bit odd they are pitching this as green when it appears as aerodynamic as a brick.

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

216 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Agent Orange said:
Mr Gear said:
What an insightful contribution! Thanks for sharing.

I think the EVN looks great. It would be nice to have a few more details.
It's aerodynamic qualities for one. wink

I do like the look of that EVN but a bit odd they are pitching this as green when it appears as aerodynamic as a brick.
You'd complain if it looked like a Prius! biggrin

G0ldfysh

3,317 posts

283 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Agent Orange said:
Mr Gear said:
What an insightful contribution! Thanks for sharing.

I think the EVN looks great. It would be nice to have a few more details.
It's aerodynamic qualities for one. wink

I do like the look of that EVN but a bit odd they are pitching this as green when it appears as aerodynamic as a brick.
Round town how much gain is there from good aero?

Would the brick like design not give the better gains allowing short length while maintaining interior space?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

281 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Oh, god...

The end of the world is nigh...

:sulk:

Agent Orange

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272 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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G0ldfysh said:
Round town how much gain is there from good aero?

Would the brick like design not give the better gains allowing short length while maintaining interior space?
That's a fair point.

Just sits oddily when you're used to seeing all "green" cars looking more and more aerodynamic.

However, you've just given me a fine idea with which to make millions..... A town car that is completely a cube. Maximum use of space for occupants and shopping. Car park floors spaced 6ft apart, multiple cubes...


Mr Gear

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216 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Agent Orange said:
A town car that is completely a cube. Maximum use of space for occupants and shopping. Car park floors spaced 6ft apart, multiple cubes...
The Japs think of everything...


Agent Orange

2,194 posts

272 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Mr Gear said:
Agent Orange said:
A town car that is completely a cube. Maximum use of space for occupants and shopping. Car park floors spaced 6ft apart, multiple cubes...
The Japs think of everything...

Yep but I was think more like this. The above looks too much like a square car.


dt95aac

4 posts

200 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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What 60s Honda city car...
I think it looks like a modern version of an Autobianchi




Lead

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254 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Postman Pat has already left the sinking ship and jumped into car design!

KimZ

225 posts

240 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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dt95aac said:
What 60s Honda city car...
I think it looks like a modern version of an Autobianchi
+1 !

I had a A112 Abarth some years ago - talk about pocket rocket!! Wish I'd kept it....

Belfast Boy

855 posts

208 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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I love sitting at the lights next to a Pruis/IMA/Lexus jobbie and holding my 3.0l Nissan tree killer at about 6000 rpm, just to compensate for them.

Just for the record, my wife had a MK1 IMA Civic. Now, when I was driving it (in a brisk fashion) I was not getting more than 26miles per gallon, the heavier rear end used to create some interesting stopping characteristics in the wet too.

Hy-brids are the imminant future though!

dandarez

13,939 posts

309 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Lead said:
Postman Pat has already left the sinking ship and jumped into car design!
roflrofl

dandarez

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309 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Mr Gear said:
madtriumphman said:
bks to 'green' vehicles!!!
What an insightful contribution! Thanks for sharing.
no worse than than the 'f'ing in your profile - perhaps you'd better edit it quick?

By the way, the planet will still be here when my children's children's children's children's (recurring) children are born.

Greens are just that... 'GREEN'.

The only thing that ends life on this planet is not made-up climate change and global warming, but war and famine.
Ironically, we seem to love both as little has changed to prevent either since I first stood on the planet 58 years ago.


Edited by dandarez on Thursday 22 October 16:08

vintageracer01

873 posts

201 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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...and Subaru is contributing with a small "Jaguar" - NIIIIIIIICE (Why there are designers who like to copy, I never get this)

Edited by vintageracer01 on Thursday 22 October 16:11

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

216 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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dandarez said:
Mr Gear said:
madtriumphman said:
bks to 'green' vehicles!!!
What an insightful contribution! Thanks for sharing.
no worse than than the 'f'ing in your profile - perhaps you'd better edit it quick?

By the way, the planet will still be here when my children's children's children's children's (recurring) children are born.

Greens are just that... 'GREEN'.

The only thing that ends life on this planet is not made-up climate change and global warming, but war and famine.
Ironically, we seem to love both as little has changed to prevent either since I first stood on the planet 59 years ago.

Edited by dandarez on Thursday 22 October 16:04
I said absolutely NOTHING about the planet not being here, I didn't mention climate change (and you'll notice if you go trawling through my old posts that I rarely do), and I have no idea what war and famine has to do with the Tokyo motor show.

Luckily for you, you're 59, and will be dead soon, so you don't need to think about what you'll be driving in 20 years time.

Have a nice evening.

vauxhallloving

62 posts

214 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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madtriumphman said:
bks to 'green' vehicles!!!
+ 1

Im sick of hearing this bullst!

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

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Thursday 22nd October 2009
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vauxhallloving said:
Im sick of hearing this bullst!
Wow, another fun-filled post from Vauxhallloving! Do you think that if you have the same tantrum enough times you'll get your way?

vauxhallloving said:
Im sick to death of all this "GREEN" bullst! fk off with it!!!
vauxhallloving said:
How about fk off. How does that sound! fking wkers!
vauxhallloving said:
fking wkers! GREEN my fking arse!
Seriously guys, if you can't contribute anything useful, don't bother. You won't catch me stting on threads I don't like.

vauxhallloving

62 posts

214 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Mr Gear said:
vauxhallloving said:
Im sick of hearing this bullst!
Wow, another fun-filled post from Vauxhallloving! Do you think that if you have the same tantrum enough times you'll get your way?

vauxhallloving said:
Im sick to death of all this "GREEN" bullst! fk off with it!!!
vauxhallloving said:
How about fk off. How does that sound! fking wkers!
vauxhallloving said:
fking wkers! GREEN my fking arse!
Seriously guys, if you can't contribute anything useful, don't bother. You won't catch me stting on threads I don't like.
You got nothing better to do other than to analyse everything I say!

Maybe if we didnt keep getting this bullst rammed down our throuts I wouldnt feel the need to comment!

Who are you to tell me what I can and cant post anyway? Errh nobody!

So if I feel the need to vent steam on these "climate change" subjects I will.

As for u not stting on threads you dont like.... well done, give yourself a medal!



Edited by vauxhallloving on Thursday 22 October 17:32


Edited by vauxhallloving on Thursday 22 October 17:34