RE: VW Scirocco
Wednesday 2nd July 2008

VW Scirocco

The VW Scirocco is reborn - but how different is it to a Golf? Ollie Stallwood finds out...



The new VW Scirocco is one of those cars that had to come into the world fighting. When it first appeared, looking slightly less aggressive than the ‘Iroc’ concept that appeared at the Paris Motor Show, it immediately came in for some flack that it was nothing more than a Golf in drag. Whereas the original Scirocco had been low and clearly coupe-like, some on PH said the new car just didn’t hit the spot.

But this was not the end of the story. After all the car was based on the Golf GTI, the best VW hatch to carry those iconic letters for three generations, which should make it a decent drive. Add to this a few tricks the Scirocco has up its sleeve –  less weight, lower centre of gravity, wider track – and we had to wonder whether the way the Scirocco drives could silence the critics.

Too hatch-like?
Too hatch-like?
So, with this in mind, when VW called us up and invited us to Lisbon, Portugal, to be one of the first to drive this four-wheeled Eighties revival the only question would be – Espadrilles or deck shoes? Now, don’t get me wrong, I often read a review that says the car looks better in the flesh, and unfortunately this is going to be one of them. The Scirocco looks lower and wider than it does in pictures and at the same time more compact. In fact it is 51mm wider than the Golf GTI (front/rear track is 35mm/51mm wider) and it looks, well, different.

The nose is going to be part of the so-called VW ‘design language’ of the future. I’m not going to pretend that VW’s designers could have been a little more adventurous with the styling to make it less hatch-like, including adding more rake to the rear, but put that aside and you realise this is a neatly-styled car.

The rear side windows are incredibly slim and the pillar-less doors are a nice touch. The rear arches bulge out at the back and there are neat touches such as the near-invisible seem where the boot meets the bumper. The hinges for the boot are covered by two quirky bumps because the designers wouldn't allow the roof line to be lowered to accomodate them. It is clear that the team behind the Scirocco’s looks have been allowed to have some fun with the design, a fact that is confirmed later when one of the designers lets slip to me that they watched Borat on YouTube constantly while working on it.

Familiar VW interior
Familiar VW interior
The Scirocco initially comes with the 2.0-litre TSI engine with 197bhp, although there will be a 158bhp 1.4 TSI ‘Twincharger’, the one with the turbo and supercharger, arriving in early 2009. A 2.0 litre diesel will also appear next year. We’ve been given the opportunity to drive both the petrol cars while in Portugal and it seems only fair to go for the 2.0-litre first.

This car comes equipped with the £1,300 DSG gearbox which provides paddles behind the wheel. Inside the car is let down slightly by Eos dash and centre console but the seats are unique and more comfortable than the chairs in the Golf. When the Scirocco first appeared I wondered why they decided to go for just two separate seats in the back instead of three. When you are inside, all becomes clear – there wasn’t room. The car sculpts in so dramatically at the back (think Volvo C30) that only two chairs would fit, and they look rather nice at that. Incidentally head room in the back isn’t too bad – this is definitely a four-seater.

The first thing you notice about the car is that it makes more noise than the Golf, growling as you press the throttle and there is a pop from the exhaust when you flick the paddle. It may be a little engineered but it gives you an idea of the sporting edge VW want to shine through. I head across the see from Lisbon and into the ‘Parque Natural da Arrábida’ where there are beautiful coast roads that rise and drop away from the sea.

Rear is roomier than it looks
Rear is roomier than it looks
Attack your first corner and the car stays incredibly flat, and you notice immediately the effects of the wider track. There is a satisfying weight to the steering, that feels better than in the Golf, and the Scirocco feels stiffer than its hot hatch brother. There is more focus to the Scirocco than in the Golf, which means that you need to go slightly faster and concentrate slightly more to have fun.

The DSG works great and allows you to concentrate on the road ahead but I feel you can’t beat a six-speed manual, which would make the car cheaper. VW says the car has a 0-62mph time the same as the Golf, 7.2 seconds (top speed 146mph), but you can’t help thinking it feels a bit quicker.

Original Scirocco made an appearance
Original Scirocco made an appearance
It has to be said that the Scirocco feels better on the faster, more sweeping sections of the route, sometimes feeling a tad wide for the really twisty stuff. As a sporting coupe though it doesn’t disappoint, managing to sound and feel more special than the Golf GTI, which is a very good car in itself. The only questions mark would be the ride because if it managed to crash around a little on these roads then Britain’s potholed tarmac may pose more of a problem.

The next morning I manage to grab the keys for the 1.4, which is expected to cost around £18,500 when it is launched in the UK. Even the original Sciroccos were rarely seen with engines smaller than 1.5 or 1.6-litres VW has decided to go for a tiny 1.4 for this much heavier third generation model.

1.4 Twincharger
1.4 Twincharger
But as we know the clever Twincharger technology makes this a 158bhp motor and I’m anxious to see how much grunt it really has. VW claims 0-62mph in eight seconds and a top speed of 135mph. At first you can’t avoid the slightly weedy engine note of the 1.4 and when you accelerate there is nowhere near the shove of the 2.0-litre. But stick with it and you notice this is an engine that loves to rev – peak power comes at 5,900rpm after all – so you will find yourself thrashing it to within an inch of its life most of the time.

As the revs increase it starts to feel much quicker, and the noise improves too. The more you drive the 1.4 the more you realise that this car is really enjoyable to drive. It revs cleanly and whereas the 2.0 is harder-edged and faster, the 1.4 is more like a chuckable old school hot hatch.

What colour would you like?
What colour would you like?
It rides on slightly smaller wheels which make it feel more lively and nimble. The steering has a decent amount of feel and the ride is better and even though there is more roll you can enjoy the limits at saner speeds.

The only issue arises when you look at fuel consumption. Yes the 1.4 has a combined figure of 43.5mpg compared to the 37.2mpg of the 2.0, but if you have to ring its neck to get the same speeds then what’s the point? It’s a sporting coupe that supposed to be driven as such after all. At a £2,500 cheaper than the £20,940 2.0-litre you realise that this is a very good value car – reasonably fast, fun and just a little bit special.

Is the small coupe finally back?
Is the small coupe finally back?
In the early nineties there were plenty of affordable coupes around but then they all but died out – perhaps the Scirocco is about to change all that.

Author
Discussion

Tuna

Original Poster:

19,930 posts

310 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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VW's answer to the Alfa Brera?

anonymous-user

80 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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hmmm...looks like a mish mash of styles to me, a bit of Megane at the front, some Volvo C30 for the profile, finished off with a bit of Alfa for the rear end. I've also noticed manufacturers seem hell bent on increasing the wheel/trye size beyond reasonable proportions for new cars, in a few years will we be seeing 3 door hatches in showrooms on 'phat dubs'.

monkey11477

128 posts

228 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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I love the look of this car, I hated the decline of the small coupe and would love to see them make a come back. Add to this that it's a genuine 4 seater and pretty well priced compared to similar spec Golfs you have to think VW is onto a winner.
Can't help but feel that in reality the 1.4 is going to cost the same in fuel and pollute the same as the 2 litre and the only reason the 1.4 exists is to pass CO2 tests. This example shows our road tax structure to be the farce it is as if that Top Gear test with the Prius and M3 wasn't enough!

Technonotice

4,250 posts

217 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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boring!!

just another vw golf platform spin off..

zimmerman

166 posts

221 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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I wasn't overly impressed at first but the more pictures I see, the more I want to see one in the flesh.

Dam shame they're making us wait until 2009 for the diesel though (need to run a derv for work) - what exactly will take so long with it?!?! Surely it's a case of sticking in a 140 or 170 bhp unit from the vw/audi parts bin and tweaking the suspension?

fastgerman.com

2,001 posts

221 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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Pretty cool when you think it will be cheaper than a Golf GTI and it looks better! Wish it was a bit more 'coupe' but maybe they can bring out a new Corrado - now that would have to live up to the name! The Corrado VR6 was a competitor for the 944 so a new one should have to compete with a Cayman!

One can dream... I'm sure this wouldn't be in Porsche/VAG badge interests.

The Skyrocket at Worthersee and the N.Burg Ring looked most excellent!

Edited by fastgerman.com on Tuesday 1st July 17:51

mister.t

3,157 posts

222 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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I really like it coolbiggrin

I like the blue on the twin-charger picture too smile

Look forward to seeing one in the flesh biggrin

Ravell

1,181 posts

238 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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I'm starting to like the overll design. I've always liked the front, but the side profile is growing on me now as well.

I do have to say, it's still a hatch! In no way is it a coupe!

pano amo

814 posts

262 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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yea I quite like that. But its more french-looking than anything else.

davee7

28 posts

255 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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The C30, Brera and Scirroco have all created a new niche which initially I didn't like, but after getting used to the concept, I'm now liking more and more.

But please - these cars are not coupes!!! Volvo seem to be the only company to NOT refer to their car as a coupe.

I'm sorry but to me, a coupe is a car that has a more sweeping, rakish roofline than the what all of these four-seater sport hatches have.

flattotheboards

6,689 posts

232 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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Looks better on these pictures than the ones seen in magazines when the car was confirmed.

LuS1fer

43,343 posts

271 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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It's a 3 door hatch, not a coupe but it may appeal more in the metal because it looks super-bland in photos.


"It is clear that the team behind the Scirocco’s looks have been allowed to have some fun with the design, a fact that is confirmed later when one of the designers lets slip to me that they watched Borat on YouTube constantly while working on it."

What this means is anyone's guess. Did VW realise they were loafing round instead of doing work?

WTF does that mean? Ja, German fun ve are haffink. rolleyes


Edited by LuS1fer on Tuesday 1st July 21:09

papercup

2,494 posts

245 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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vauxhall astra...

mgp1969

3,503 posts

263 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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looks rubbish compared to the mk1 or mk2 scirocco or the corrado

an uninspired squashed golf - can't see why anyone would buy one of these over a golf

as a fan of the (mk1 particularly) scirocco and the corrado, a huge disappointment

Fotofrog

118 posts

223 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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I think this car is fantastic... one step up from the Golf GTi... Definitely looking forward to testing one of these when they get released..

its got to be the full fat 2.0 engine tho, for noise and power..

They look amazing in white and those rims are spot on... cant wait !

Funk

27,473 posts

235 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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I think I will definitely consider this when the ST comes up for change in a year or so. The lump is already easily tuneable to 300bhp and it should provide some great fun.

I really like the looks as well, even though a few aren't in favour. Looks great in white!

TCEvo

15,357 posts

228 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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Like the look of that.

steebo888

784 posts

224 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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like it alot. want the 2 litre turbo but you can get the golf gti now from 11k which is what i would rather have

Twit

2,908 posts

290 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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Fotofrog said:
I think this car is fantastic... one step up from the Golf GTi... Definitely looking forward to testing one of these when they get released..

its got to be the full fat 2.0 engine tho, for noise and power..

They look amazing in white and those rims are spot on... cant wait !
Wait for the R version. It'll be along in a year or so and will be the one to have!

j123

881 posts

218 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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And do VW provide a rear view camera so one can actually see out the back? Or will this be a royal pain to weave in and out of any sort of traffic.

Saying the car has more grip than the Gti seems a bit much- as that car already has too much!