RE: PH Fleet: C63 AMG Estate

RE: PH Fleet: C63 AMG Estate

Tuesday 19th July 2011

PH Fleet: C63 AMG Estate

Our 'uber-overtaker' proves insane power delivery is the safest option...


Brothers in the arms race?
Brothers in the arms race?
The safest option when you're not content to sit behind a turnip lorry for 40 miles, that is. Or when you live in Norfolk.

The true horror of the state of that county's A roads was brought home to me again on a recent trip to Lotus at Hethel, which required an early morning cross-country jaunt from the East Midlands. I knew I should have headed South on the A1 before bearing East on the A11 but it looks such a long way round on the map... So I left extra early, and headed for Kings Lynn on the A17.

6.5 litres plays 6.3..
6.5 litres plays 6.3..
Jaaay-zus! If I hadn't been blessed by AMG with nigh-on 500hp under the right foot, and were it not for my own occasionally impetuous nature, I'd still be choking on diesel fumes and wondering if Lotus had launched the 2013 Esprit yet. As it was, I arrived on time, with slightly sweaty palms and wearing a bit of a grin.

There really is nothing like surfing the wave of unrelenting power unleashed by the Merc's monstrous V8, not least because it's accompanied by such a heart-warming and evocative thundery, rumbling growl. It's like tickling a baby - you just give it a prod, and are rewarded by an instantaneous grin from ear-to-ear. (Where to where..? Ed.) But it's not just the noise, or the surreal rate of gathering pace that makes driving the C63 such a thrill. There's an extra intangible pleasure from driving something that looks a bit like an 'ordinary' road car, yet which can blow unsuspecting fellow travellers - when possible half a dozen at a time - so comprehensively into the weeds.

No contest in the tailpipe stakes
No contest in the tailpipe stakes
It's causing a little domestic difficulty actually, because while average fuel consumption in the late teens to early 20s would be eminently acceptable in a 'weekend warrior', for a daily driver doing a decent mileage it's starting to feel just a little bit profligate. Trouble is after every 80 quid fill-up, the allure of switching to a 60mpg diesel only lasts until the first significant prod of the throttle, which is usually when exiting the petrol station forecourt. Fortunately in spite of her tendency to seek swingeing budget cuts elsewhere, Mrs-R is a fan of the big-hearted Merc - to the extent that when discussing how we would spend our £166m Euro millions winnings the other night, she reckoned on buying herself a new one. (Then the silly mare ruined everything by buying the wrong ticket...)

But in spite of continued penury, we're still pumping gas in volumes for now, and enjoying the grins while they last. And talking of big V8s and the grins they engender, PH contributor Andy Craig (silversixx) had one plastered all over his visage when he rocked (and rolled?) up to CPoP in the rather tasty Pontiac GTO pictured.

At 6.5 litres it just outpoints the 6.3 litre (badged! It's 6,208cc really...) AMG for capacity, but Andy reckons his triple-carb'd machine has 'only' got three hundred-and-something bhp at the back wheels. Its V8 burble is more 'classic' than the AMG's but possibly even more evocative, and in spite of the GTO's bulk I was surprised at just how far into the reserves I had to dig when keeping pace with his exit from the CPoP car park...

Proof, in case it's needed, that there's still no substitute for cubic inches - and that there never was.





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PH Fleet Update: C63 AMG Estate
Estate Of Play: Fast Wagons
PH Fleet Update: C63 AMG Estate
Pic of The Week: PH Fleet C63 In Reims
PH Fleet Update: Merc C63 AMG And Leon Cupra R
PH Fleet: C63 AMG Going Nowhere...
PH Fleet: Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Estate

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Discussion

alfav6

Original Poster:

30 posts

241 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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Drove one of these at a Merc World driving experience. Awesome machine and my instructor reckoned the Estate was better balanced than the Saloon. Pity I bought the wrong lottery ticket too...

Dr G

15,173 posts

242 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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  1. corrections - 6.2 wink

CliveM

525 posts

185 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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*pedant*
Just wondering why the badge spells "Litre" the european way?

silversixx

140 posts

211 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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Dr G said:
#corrections - 6.2 wink
...and strictly speaking the GTOs capacity is closer to 6.4 - although in its defence it's been bored 0.30 over!

Chris-R

756 posts

187 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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Dr G said:
#corrections - 6.2 wink
Curses! smile

angusc43

11,486 posts

208 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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My first and second C43's made many trips from London to various parts of Norfolk. And my E500 is continuing the tradition. 300-ish bhp makes for good overtaking - I can only imagine how much fun 500 bhp would be.

Matt UK

17,696 posts

200 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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if i had a few quid, a c63 would be a fantastic daily driver. i reckon i'd have one over an m3

nicfaz

432 posts

230 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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Saw the GTO on the A49 north of CPOP (Shell garage junction) and it looked fantastic! rotate I'm sorry I didn't get to hear it.

And yes I know, epic, epic lurking.

soad

32,894 posts

176 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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Having heard one or two of these amg powered beasts, can only say they sound immense!
One for the fantasy garage as things stand ...read, lack of funds

silversixx

140 posts

211 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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CliveM said:
*pedant*
Just wondering why the badge spells "Litre" the european way?
Good question.

John Delorean was responsible for the GTO and openly admitted nicking the acronym from Ferrari. Using the European spelling of 'Litre' was done deliberately to try to engender a European flavour.

FourWheelDrift

88,511 posts

284 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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CliveM said:
*pedant*
Just wondering why the badge spells "Litre" the european way?
If they were being American about it I suppose they would have used gallon as an equivalent measurement of capacity, so I guess they are using the European measurement of litre and spelling it the European way. But then again the US have used cubic inches for engine capacity, so I wonder if it might be an export car for Europe.

to3m

1,226 posts

170 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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FourWheelDrift said:
CliveM said:
*pedant*
Just wondering why the badge spells "Litre" the european way?
If they were being American about it I suppose they would have used gallon as an equivalent measurement of capacity, so I guess they are using the European measurement of litre and spelling it the European way. But then again the US have used cubic inches for engine capacity, so I wonder if it might be an export car for Europe.
Thanks to Wikipedia, I now know more about what Wikipedia says on this subject than I used to wink

Engine capacity is PI/4 * bore^2 * stroke * cylinders. Since bore and stroke are most naturally measured in inches - at least if you're an American - being fairly short distances - the units of the result are inches^3. You can convert to gallons by multiplying by 177, dividing by 409, then standing on your head (or something like that...), but who's going to bother, and what would be the point anyway?

(The same conversion in SI, like everything else in the SI system by comparison, is so simple that you might as well do it.)

FourWheelDrift

88,511 posts

284 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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How does that explain the European spelling of Litre and not the US spelling (Liter)?

smile

to3m

1,226 posts

170 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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Erm... well, you've got me there... I was sure there was an implied question about why they used cubic inches rather than gallons, which made me wonder myself, but maybe not smile

FourWheelDrift

88,511 posts

284 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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No I just said gallons as it's a usual equivalent to litres, I could have said quarts, barrels, hogs heads or elephants biggrin

silversixx

140 posts

211 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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FourWheelDrift said:
How does that explain the European spelling of Litre and not the US spelling (Liter)?

smile
According to the book 'GTO' by a chap called Darwin Holstrum:

'...DeLorean's love of European sports cars influenced the understated styling...and that European connection was strengthened further by the fender emblem, which listed the engine's displacement as "6.5 LITRES" rather than announcing the engines cubic-inch displacement.'

nerdgetmecoat

nickythesaint

1,371 posts

166 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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I'm guessing its an auto box?

What is the manual change / flappy paddel bit like?

Would you prefer a manual or is the auto box best?

FourWheelDrift

88,511 posts

284 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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silversixx said:
FourWheelDrift said:
How does that explain the European spelling of Litre and not the US spelling (Liter)?

smile
According to the book 'GTO' by a chap called Darwin Holstrum:

'...DeLorean's love of European sports cars influenced the understated styling...and that European connection was strengthened further by the fender emblem, which listed the engine's displacement as "6.5 LITRES" rather than announcing the engines cubic-inch displacement.'

nerdgetmecoat
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vit4

3,507 posts

170 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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I adore those shape GTO's.
And when I win the lottery a C63 AMG estate, pretty much identical in spec to your one, will be on my drive in mere hours wink.

r129sl

9,518 posts

203 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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It is quite bizarre to complain about the fuel consumption of a fifty (sixty?) grand car. If money is that tight, surely the car is unaffordable for you?

In this vein, I was astounded by this month's Car magazine conclusions about its long termer E63 AMG estate (which cost £80k new). Apparently the extra economy of the new twin turbo E63, which is worth the princely sum of £500 over 10,000miles, is such a big saving it warrants sacrificing the 6.2 litre na motor (which is supposed to be just so great) for the 5.5 litre twin turbo!