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Tuesday 29th November 2011

Driven: Vauxhall Corsa VXR Nurburgring

We loved the Opel version; how does it translate to RHD, B-roads and a Griffin badge?



Vauxhall, it's probably fair to say, has a bit of an image problem when it comes to hot hatches. However unfair it may be to the Luton Griffin, which has produced its fair share of decent fast hatches over the years, there is a general perception that hot Vauxhalls are driven by 'the wrong sort'.


Thus, while Renault basks in the glow of being perceived as a genuine 'enthusiast's brand', Vauxhall is illuminated by the sodium glare of the Maccy-Dee car park. This seems to be particularly true of the Corsa VXR - which is especially harsh since the little Vauxhall, although not as deliciously chuckable as a Renaultsport Clio, has always been a fine hot hatch.

The Corsa VXR Nurburgring is Vauxhall's (or more accurately Opel's) answer to that, a statement of intent from GM that says 'we are about a lot more than torque steer, turbos and body kits'.

And you have to say Vauxhall has gone to some considerable effort to make its point. There is a Drexler mechanical limited-slip differential, stiffer progressive-rate springs, monotube Bilstein dampers and revised bump stops. These changes make the car 20mm lower at the front and 15mm lower at the rear. There are new four-pot calipers on the front brakes, while ventilation has been increased for all four discs, and the forged wheels are half an inch wider but shave 200g off the weight at each corner.

Power-wise there's 205hp (versus 192hp for the standard car) and 207lb ft of torque from 2250-5500rpm, meaning a properly Clio-chasing 0-60mph in 6.5secs and 143mph top speed.


The big question is, of course, whether the Corsa Nurburgring can face up to the epic little terrier of a hot hatch that is the Renaultsport Clio on Good-ol' British B-roads. When he tested it at the Euro Speedway Lausitz for us, Adam Towler reckoned that it just might. So were his hopes justified?

The short - if infuriating - answer is yes and no. Yes, because the little Corsa is so much more planted than the standard car - put it into a tight, bumpy corner as hard as you dare and it will simply turn in and grip, dealing with the ripples, ruts and scars of the road surface with extraordinary flair for one so small. Yes, because even though the steering is a bit lightweight it's still super-keen to change direction, and accurate with it.

Yes, because it offers a decent chunk of power. Yes, because the Recaro seats are great and because you can get a pretty darn decent driving position from the hugely adjustable wheel, though there is always a whiff of one-box MPV.


So why no? Why doesn't the Corsa quite stack up against the hardcore Clio? Well, without a proper back-to-back comparison we wouldn't like to say anything categorically, but there is a sense that, although on an objective level it would be hard to separate the two cars, subjectively the Corsa is still a tiny bit remote. It's still a fine hot hatch and we're still blown away by its abilities - it's like saying Marlowe isn't quite the playwright Shakespeare is - but the Clio is just that bit more visceral, that bit more alive.

There's also the small matter of image - we don't want to sound like car snobs, but there is something about a fast Vauxhall that makes many people turn their noses up, VXR8 and Monaro arguably excepted. One of my neighbours, in fact, felt the need to come over and tell me that the Corsa Nurburgring was lowering the tone of the street and that I should move it. He was joking, of course, but that he still felt the need to bring up the subject is telling.

But the killer for the Corsa is price. The hardcore version of the Clio - the Cup - costs £16,930, less than the standard car. The Corsa VXR Nurburgring costs £22,295. That's three-and-a-bit grand more than the cooking VXR. And that's a lot of money for a Vauxhall supermini, no matter how you cut it.





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Stew2000

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I kinda like it.

Caulkhead

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Fun car, silly price.

dele

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Please tell me your joking?

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Vauxhall, it's probably fair to say, has a bit of an image problem when it comes to hot hatches. However unfair it may be to the Luton Griffin, which has produced its fair share of decent fast hatches over the years, there is a general perception that hot Vauxhalls are driven by 'the wrong sort'.


Thus, while Renault basks in the glow of being perceived as a genuine 'enthusiast's brand', Vauxhall is illuminated by the sodium glare of the Maccy-Dee car park.
Come to Hertfordshire/Essex then

Ive seen more poorly driven barried up 182s, 172s and RS Meganes than i have had hot dinners

Ecosseven

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Looks good but it has the same problem that most hot hatches have these days. The price. For me a basic fiesta or corsa provides 75% of the fun at 50% of the price. It doesn't add up.

oj121

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If they managed to drop it into the range at anything under £20k it would be great. At that price its a non-starter.
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Stew2000

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I just noticed the tyre size.

225/35 R 18

WHY?!

phil_cardiff

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I'd wager it's a better daily driver than the Clio due to torque.

Tom W

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Apparently Aston Vauxhall are selling these for around £19,745 (Plus £500 for special order paint)

http://www.astonvauxhall.co.uk/new-cars/614/Vauxha...

Much more sensible at this price?

bga

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dele said:
Come to Hertfordshire/Essex then

Ive seen more poorly driven barried up 182s, 172s and RS Meganes than i have had hot dinners
It's the same here in Sussex

JB!

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how much??!?!?!?! rofl

Prof Prolapse

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Article said:
...Hardcore version of the Clio - the Cup - costs £16,930, less than the standard car. The Corsa VXR Nurburgring costs £22,295. That's three-and-a-bit grand more than the cooking VXR
Am I being an idiot here.... £22,300 - £17,000 = £5300?

JB!

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Prof Prolapse said:
Am I being an idiot here.... £22,300 - £17,000 = £5300?
the clio cup costs 17k.

presume the corsa vxr costs 19-20k?

Antj

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compared to a GT86 it looks a bargain

Cassius81

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And people told me my GTI was pricey at £22k...

Riggers

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JB! said:
Prof Prolapse said:
Am I being an idiot here.... £22,300 - £17,000 = £5300?
the clio cup costs 17k.

presume the corsa vxr costs 19-20k?
£18,900... smile

JB!

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Antj said:
compared to a GT86 it looks a bargain
how??!?!?!?!?

supermini with a quick lump or bespoke RWD chassis designed for the aftermarket industry?

I was thinking that this pricing makes the speculative 20-30k bracket of the GT86 look good!

XitUp

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phil_cardiff said:
I'd wager it's a better daily driver than the Clio due to torque.
Why?

Prof Prolapse

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Riggers said:
JB! said:
Prof Prolapse said:
Am I being an idiot here.... £22,300 - £17,000 = £5300?
the clio cup costs 17k.

presume the corsa vxr costs 19-20k?
£18,900... smile
Right, cheers!

TOENHEEL

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Far too much £, although used a quick scan through the classifieds brings up lots of very nice cars for that sort of money!

phil_cardiff

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XitUp said:
Why?
Because of the torque...

What I'm trying to say is that you won't have to rev the bejeesus out of it to make progress.

I've not driven either, just a theory.
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