Thursday 16th February 2012

PH Carpool: Thornycroft Nubian Major

No, we had no idea what it was either. Turns out it's a fire engine. Cool

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Name:James Walker

Car (vehicle):Thornycroft Nubian Major (6x6 Airfield Crash Tender)
Owned since:Summer 2011
Previous owner:National Historic Vehicle Society

Why I bought it:
We bought the Nubian because of its rarity; it is a unique prototype model that was originally built for evaluation purposes. It was the first we had seen in over three years of searching, and for one to come up in such good condition made it a 'must'.

We also felt it fitted in with the other vehicles in our collection, particularly the Alvis Mk6 fire crash tender (otherwise known as the Alvis Salamander), because when dealing with an airfield fire, these would have operated as a pair - the Salamander fighting the fire, and the Nubian supplying it with water from its 1500 gallon tank. We think that getting them both restored beautifuly and paired up again would be a real showstopper!

On our first ever trip in it, the main luxuries I missed were being able to hear myself think, and to feel my feet. The heater was unfortunately not working and, despite there being a 14.8-litre Cummins V8 diesel only inches to my side, the cab was very cold.

Despite these inconveniences it was well worth buying. I think I would tell anyone thinking of buying anything of a similar genre to be confident, because these were built to last (the running gear looks indestructable), and that any problems like the odd dent or broken heater really fade into insignificance when you take a look around it and see how much character it has.

Things I love:
I love the way it drives, and the feeling you get from high up in the cab is great; you might be driving down a road at 40-odd miles an hour, and looking to the side you see a ploughed field, and the row of hedges that, but for your height, would be hiding it from you, you get a small but priceless buzz from knowing that you could just as easily be on the other side of the hedge, parallel to the road doing the same speed off-road.

Further to the driving experience, I love how easy it is to drive - everything down to the gearbox (which incidently has a chunky metal gate for the actual gearstick, just like an Audi R8...) is air-assisted, making the gear changes through the 5-speed "pneumocyclic" an absolute pleasure, accompanied brilliantly by the roar of the engine.

Things I hate:
The 'things I hate' paragraph was always going to be a short one, because if there were that many things to hate about it, we simply wouldnt have bought it! I suppose the fuel consumption isnt amazing, we reckon 7mpg, but even that isnt too bad, considering the size of the engine - our e39 M5 averages about 25mpg and that's around the 5.0-litre mark...

Costs:

Other than the fuel issue, it really doesn't cost much to run at all. It is tax and MOT exempt on the basis of it being a) historic and b) a fire engine and insurance is remarkably low. Parts are mainly straightforward, because a lot of standard sizes are used, and the engine is seen regularly in drag tractors and the like. so manuals and spares come up on Ebay fairly regularly, allbeit for other similar models, so as long as we keep our eyes peeled for such items, we're sorted.

Where I've been:
So far, we've only had one trip to get to know it. It took the 120 miles effortlessly and never felt on edge (except for one occasion where our backup car pulled us over saying the blue flashing lights had been on the past 10 minutes - we had accidently knocked the switch inadvertantly while going through the control panel in search of the windscreen wipers(!) and then couldn't figure out which one it was to turn them off again).

What next:

In the future we intend to show it when we can. You will probably be able to see it in the metal next at Welland Steam Rally near the Malvern Hills this summer. We also intend to restore it as much as funds allow, but with the focus on functionality, not being polished to within an inch of its life! We feel that when something looks pristine, you become afraid to touch it, let alone play with it..

[DR10]

What sort of power does it produce?

Edit: Google tells me 288 BHP

Edited by DR10 on Thursday 16th February 13:32

[HorneyMX5]

I love old trucks. You need to bring it home to the Basingstoke Festival of Transport, there's always a few interesting Thronycroft vehicles assembled there.

Nick

[lazystudent]

Lol. Love that!

[GTiFrank]

Brilliant carpool! Will always remember my ride in a green goddess at lasham airfield. "easy to drive" was not the 1st thing that sprang to mind though!

[Tedz]

Excellent, thanks! Surely one bit to add to the "Things I Hate" section, would be parking the thing?!

[Vilhelm]

Badass. I want it.

[steve_n]

Who is 'we'?

[Gizmo!]

Tedz said:

Excellent, thanks! Surely one bit to add to the "Things I Hate" section, would be parking the thing?!

Leave it wherever you like. Who's going to clamp/tow it?


And as for power - never mind the bhp, how much torque?

[pSyCoSiS]

Now that is one seriosuly cool big boy's toy!!!

[DaveL485]

Please tell me the big water cannon on the top works....???

[Low Pro]

What a machine!!! im pretty sure Thornycroft made tank transporters too, great Carpool tho!

[nxi20]

The mere sight of the title of this story transported me back to 1974 when I worked in a garage over the summer holidays & the owner had just bought one of these (a straight 8 petrol version, I'm pretty sure) to use as a heavy haulage recovery truck. We hacked off everything aft of the cab, installed a 300 gallon fuel tank, an enormous winch & reinforced the rear tow hitch for a swan-necked towbar. It did about 1 or 2mpg when hauling 25 tons and the first time it went down a steep hill with a load on the back the brakes all caught fire.

Happy days

Edited by nxi20 on Thursday 16th February 15:03

Edited by nxi20 on Thursday 16th February 15:03

[LotusOmega375D]

Getting a job as airfield firetruck crew must be a mega cushy number, compared to a regular fireman. How many times are they actually required? I am sure somewhere like Heathrow could be pretty intense, but the guys at those little Ryanair airports scattered across Europe must have saw ar$es from all the 8 hour tea-breaks they get paid for each day!

Nice truck by the way!

[Riggers]

nxi20 said:

The first time it went down a steep hill with a load on the back the brakes all caught fire.

There's only one thing to say to that:

[LotusOmega375D]

Riggers said:

nxi20 said:

The first time it went down a steep hill with a load on the back the brakes all caught fire.

There's only one thing to say to that:

Best thing to be in when that happens though.

[williamp]

Thats great. Well done. Are you going to get a 6 wheeled range rover as a rapid response vehicle? My work experience was at an airfield, and sometimes invovled riding around in one of those.

[Whitean3]

The Article said:

the engine is seen regularly in drag tractors

So surely I'm not the only one thinking that a wee bit more POWWEEERRR! wouldn't be too difficult to achieve

[Bonefish Blues]

Whitean3 said:

So surely I'm not the only one thinking that a wee bit more POWWEEERRR! wouldn't be too difficult to achieve

This is one vehicle which has probably get enough torque, shirley?

[b14]

LotusOmega375D said:

Best thing to be in when that happens though.

What, a truck with a 300 gallon fuel tank?!

[ewenm]

What does 6x6 actually mean? 6 wheel drive? 6 wheels drive x 6 wheel steer?

Cool truck though