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RE: Pic Of The Week: Hayabusa vs Radical

RE: Pic Of The Week: Hayabusa vs Radical

Friday 6th April 2012

Pic Of The Week: Hayabusa vs Radical

Two very different applications for Suzuki's fabulous Hayabusa engine, one very cool pic



This week's Pic Of The Week celebrates the classic speed junky question of which is quicker: car or bike?

PH2's Jon Urry chose to answer the question by pitting a Suzuki Hayabusa against Radical SR3 RS. The beauty of this wee comparison is that they share the same high-revving Suzuki engine - levelling the playing field slightly. The results are somewhat unsurprising; the bike dominated the straights, while the slick-shod Radical was superior on the brakes and through corners. Both, in their own way, are hugely impressive machines.

And whether you enjoy your kicks on four or two wheels, we think you will appreciate the commitment shown by both the guys in this snapshot of their day at Bruntingthorpe.

Traditional (4:3)
Computer widescreen (16:10)
TV widescreen (16:9)
Portrait (smartphone)

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RegMolehusband

Original Poster:

3,042 posts

162 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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Nice picture. I assume the Radical has to seriously back off not to run over the bike on that bend wink

fuchsiasteve

228 posts

111 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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Would be interesting to see the difference in lap times between them both.

Dave Hedgehog

7,842 posts

109 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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RegMolehusband said:
Nice picture. I assume the Radical has to seriously back off not to run over the bike on that bend wink
hes changing tune on his ipod as he goes past the bike tongue out

MonkeyMatt

5,575 posts

112 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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So who won?

y2blade

56,027 posts

120 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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Dave Hedgehog said:
RegMolehusband said:
Nice picture. I assume the Radical has to seriously back off not to run over the bike on that bend wink
hes changing tune on his ipod as he goes past the bike tongue out
hehe


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DaveH23

1,641 posts

75 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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Dave Hedgehog

7,842 posts

109 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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DaveH23 said:
fixed the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2HoCLMV5gI

i thought radicals where fast in a straight line, the bike destroyed it as thou it was parked???


RegMolehusband

Original Poster:

3,042 posts

162 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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Impressive acceleration on the bike of course but I'd say the Radical is keeping a safe distance under braking and cornering and so its exit speeds are being compromised.

Edited by RegMolehusband on Saturday 7th April 09:30

B'stard Child

8,876 posts

151 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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Dave Hedgehog said:
DaveH23 said:
fixed the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2HoCLMV5gI

i thought radicals where fast in a straight line, the bike destroyed it as thou it was parked???
I'd like to know the comparative lap times for the two (especially if the radical did any laps without a passenger)

As the video graphically shows in the later section the bike was holding up the radical but I'm not sure the corner speed would make up for the domination the bike had down the straights

Dave Hedgehog

7,842 posts

109 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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B'stard Child said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
DaveH23 said:
fixed the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2HoCLMV5gI

i thought radicals where fast in a straight line, the bike destroyed it as thou it was parked???
I'd like to know the comparative lap times for the two (especially if the radical did any laps without a passenger)

As the video graphically shows in the later section the bike was holding up the radical but I'm not sure the corner speed would make up for the domination the bike had down the straights
I did a track day back end of last year with some very fast track toy road cars, the radicals where racing there at the weekend and a lot had come to practise before the race. The radicals where pissing past everything like it was parked so gawd knows how fast that bike is.


obscene

4,491 posts

90 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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I'm pretty sure a 1000cc sports would be a touch faster than a Busa too. God knows it'd handle better. smile

Conian

8,030 posts

106 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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Same engine levels the playing field...
Like racing a Porsche 924 against a VW LT van?

nellyleelephant

2,569 posts

139 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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Slight difference in acceleration...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRX3KZjQmK0&fea...

mrmr96

13,736 posts

109 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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B'stard Child said:
I'm not sure the corner speed would make up for the domination the bike had down the straights
Evidently the braking and cornering of the car DOES make up for the domination of the bike on the straights - this is demonstrated by the fact that despite the healthy lead built on the straight, the car always caught the bike in the corner. (i.e. it made the gap back up in one braking zone)

I think if the bike would lap faster than the car then over the course of the video you'd have seen it pull away into the distance and disappear. However it didn't do that.

If the car was faster over a full lap then it would stay in touch with the bike, rather than fall off the back of it. The car would have pulled into the lead if the bike didn't hold it up in the corners. (I.e. the bike was never held up, but couldn't pull away enough that it wasn't caught back up under brakes each time. The car was held up.)

I think the video demonstrates that this car, with this driver was lapping that particular track on that day, faster than that bike with that rider.

Fort Jefferson

7,819 posts

127 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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Slick shod racing car, faster around corners than a bog standard 6 grand Busa. Who'd have thought it.

Simon says

13,471 posts

126 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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obscene said:
I'm pretty sure a 1000cc sports would be a touch faster than a Busa too. God knows it'd handle better. smile
yes

dunc_sx

669 posts

102 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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Always thought this was a fairer test as it's got a sporty bike in it:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Man0X0bf8vk

Dunc.

jason61c

2,206 posts

79 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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Fort Jefferson said:
Slick shod racing car, faster around corners than a bog standard 6 grand Busa. Who'd have thought it.
£60k slick shod radical faster than a 6k busa. A 1000cc sportsbike would lap a couple of seconds faster than the hayabusa..

bamberwell

1,265 posts

67 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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radical - track day special/racing car, 'busa - fast tourer......... same engine means fk all
lotus elise s1 vs rover hmmmmmmmmmm

LordFlathead

8,836 posts

163 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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Well let's have a think about that.. what the does the Radical weigh to the Busa?

The Radical has to drag all the extra weight but the engine was not designed to be torquey, rather it develops a load of hp all at peak revs.

The Radical corners better.. no st! It has at least four times the contact patch, no doubt with slicks or soft compound so it can stop faster and corner quicker.

The bike leaves it standing on the straights - of course it does, that engine was designed to go in that frame.

Great video but did not expect to see anything really smile