PH Fleet: BMW M5 (E28)
You've had the overview of the Harris fleet; with the M5 stirring from winter slumbers it's time for a closer look
I love this about being obsessed by cars - the ones you lust after remain a constant in your life despite the turmoil and changes going on around you. Girls, friends, houses, fads, facial hair - they are all transient, but one of the few things that has remained constant about me since 1986 was that I thought the E28 M5 was the coolest saloon car ever built. I still do.
My first M car was a ratty 3.0-litre E36 M3 - tough as old boots and damned fast. This was replaced by the king of bork, otherwise know as the E34 M5 Touring, which was marginally less expensive to run than Concorde. The arrival of children and family dog persuaded me that Garching's limited edition estate car would be the perfect combination of practicality and subtle speed. But looking back - given how often the pooch actually travelled by M - I should have bought an E28.
Rude not to
A few months after the E34 left someone told me about a recently restored E28 that might be for sale. There was virtually no history but it was clean - that was the information. It turned out to be an absolute stunner but still with zero provenance, which in cruel market terms is a bit of a problem. But, much like Marty McFly being called a chicken, I cannot stand certain market conventions, especially ones where bits of paper become more valuable than the cars they supposedly document and they spur me into rash purchases. Balls to convention - the car was a minter. A few months later, I bought it.
What is it about the E28? It's the first of its type from the modern era. An ostensibly normal saloon car using the hottest engine BMW could find. For people who enjoy classic BMW styling the E28 is the exemplar: the hip-kink, the top-forward grille, the driver-centric dash. It's a fantastically proportioned car. But most of all, every time I drive it I imagine what it must have been like to be a roadtester in 1986, when a seriously fast saloon car might just crack 22 seconds from rest to 100mph and suddenly BMW produces a car that looks little different to a 535i and will do the same in 15.6 seconds. It would keep a 3.2 Carrera very honest.
Feelgood factors
I love the fact that it's rare - apparently only 187 came to the UK in RHD form. It also feels like a car that was handbuilt - the quality of the interior is remarkable, the leather is thick and robust, the plastics durable.
The driving experience is even better, helped no doubt by a set of Avon tyres that are far superior to the original Michelins. With 286hp pushing a little over 1,500kg it isn't in the same league as a modern super saloon but the flip side is that most people are staggered how fast something that looks like a taxi can cover ground. The driving position is good, the wheel a little too far away, so you bring the seat close and push the long-travel throttle right into the footwell. It sounds good at idle, then builds and builds and then above 5,000rpm it makes the classic, yelping, M straight-six noise.
The locking differential and slow steering mean it's a honey to move around in the wet, the ride is supple, the air-con is almost too powerful. In fact the thing that really dates the car is all the wind noise from the windscreen rubbers and general guttering. It'll do the claimed 147mph and the 15.6 seconds - I've confirmed both - but it sounds like you're driving an Ariel Atom above 120mph.
Meanwhile, in the real world
I have no idea what the car's worth now, nor in fact can I find any confirmation of what I paid for it in 2006. I know it was between £9.5K and £10K. It's the best value car I've ever bought because it genuinely is a dream purchase for me - a machine I lusted after as a child and never believed I would one day own, something steeped in significance and specialness. Everything else in that bracket is now six figures. These are still well under £20K.
Back in 2007 I had the cooling system replaced, including a new BMW radiator, and a new clutch at the same time. Dick Lovett BMW in Bristol did the work, and it wasn't that much more expensive than using an independent. The engine itself has only covered 7,000 miles since the timing chain was done - that's about the extent of the service history!
As for the present, things aren't quite as rosy. I didn't use the car last year, and always being accustomed to leaving it for months and having it rumble into life on the key, two weeks ago it refused to start. It might be the ECU. Anyways, I'm about to take it somewhere for a bit of a birthday, so if anyone has strong feelings as to who the best people for an E28 M5 are, please share the information.
FACT SHEET
Car: 1986 BMW M5
Run by: Chris Harris
Bought: August 2006
Mileage: 131,000
Purchase price: £9,500 ... possibly
Last month at a glance: Attempted rouse from slumber, with no sign of life. Off for some TLC!
Not shore where you are based but to be on the safe side I would send it to Munich legends http://www.munichlegends.co.uk/ or http://www.classicheroes.co.uk/default
You might try removing & then reinstalling all the fuses & replays in the engine bay. Just sounds like you have a bad contact.
Fitted Aston Martin Vanquish S brakes too
My build thread. http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e28-m5-discussion...
The spec so far:- S38B36 Powered - Rebuilt Getrag 280 With Late Model Spec Vent Pipe & Show Standard Casing, Modified Brass Selector Arms, Custom braided Clutch Hose - 3:45 Medium Case Diff, 40% LSD, E28 M5 Diff Rubber, Poly Bushed Rear Axle, E28 M5 Trailing Arms, Whiteline ARB's - Fritz Six Branch - 380mm Aston Martin Vanquish S (Upgrade) Front Disks & 6 Piston Calipers, Rear 360mm AP Racing Vanquish S 4 Piston Calipers, 750i Master Cylinder, Goodridge Braided Brake Lines, 4 x New Wheel Bearings & ABS Sensors, New Brake Bar Pivot On Bulkhead, Braided Oil Cooler Lines, Racing Dynamics Carbon Fibre intake, 4.5kg Billet Flywheel, E34 M5 Heavy Duty Sachs Sports Clutch, Short shift, Custom 5 Core Radiator, Kenlow Twin Speed Turbo Fan, E28 M5 Electric Seats, Battery Tray, Boot Carpet Set, Instrument Cluster, E30 M3 Sport Evo Rear View Mirror, Fully Working Cruise Control & Airbox, Powerchiped - Top Speed Limiter Removed E28 Alpina B10 Long Range Fuel Tank, New Lift Pump, New BMW Fuel Tank, New Headlamp - Wind Screen Washer Tank, New e34 M5 Expansion Tank, 8.5" x 19" & 9.5" x 19" Hartge Design E 3 Piece Split Rims, 225/35/19's & 265/30/19's Michelin Pilot Super Sports + Track Wheels, 265/35/18 Rear, 235/40/18 Front, Pirelli P-Zero Rosso's, Hartge Front Strut Brace, Custom Built Rear Strut Brace, Hartge H5S Rear Spoiler, Alpina Aux Gauge Set with Digital Oil Temp, Oil Pressure & Differential Temp, Modified Diff Casing For Temp Sensor & Extra Large Cooling Fins Added, Custom Bilstein Blue Hartge Spec Springs ( Ride height optimised for 19" wheels) All Wheel Arches Rolled, New BMW Spring Pads Front & Rear, New BMW E28 M5 Offset Front Top Mounts, E34 M5 Aluminium Control Arms etc etc etc......
But old ones have recently started becoming the knees of the bee to me. This type of M5 (along with the 6 series) is the nuttiest of the mutts nutts IMHO.
Anyhoo,
PHers in Bristol seem to hail http://www.forzawest.com/ as one of the best palces to go.
Might be worth talking to the guys at Tecnosport at Staples Corner if you plan getting some work done;
http://www.technosport.co.uk/index.html
These guys know their M stuff and they wont give you a bigger bill than need be (unlike some previously mentioned M specialists where M stands for More Money).
Top tip for the E28 M5 - don't buy one unseen. Or if you do, don't be surprised when you discover it needs the thick end of £12k of work to pass an MOT. Guess how I found that out...
There is something that's just so right about the E28 shape, though. I'd love another M5, but out of the 187 that started out in the UK, a fair chunk have been put into ditches and are now the coke can in front of you, and more recently they seem to be disappearing to Europe and the Far East at a rate of knots.
Having just picked up this, er, little beauty(?) my intention is to home-brew it into something on a par for performance with the M5, but using more modern components wherever possible.
Warning! Gratuitous photo:
Mmmmm, E28.....
But old ones have recently started becoming the knees of the bee to me. This type of M5 (along with the 6 series) is the nuttiest of the mutts nutts IMHO.
Is the E34 M5 famously expensive to run or did CH just have bad luck? They seem like a real bargain at the moment...
One of the bikers happened to say: "Nice car. Bet you can't do two laps of the roundabout sideways". Needless to say this chap got in, drove off to turn round, came back, threw it onto the roundabout and executed two complete laps on the lockstops before pulling over and saying "How's that?". I believe it got a round of applause from the assembled bikers.
Might be worth talking to the guys at Tecnosport at Staples Corner if you plan getting some work done;
http://www.technosport.co.uk/index.html
These guys know their M stuff and they wont give you a bigger bill than need be (unlike some previously mentioned M specialists where M stands for More Money).
"The best man for the job of fettling the M5 is Darren Farrell 01787 223644 or 07807 689538 he is a one man band but a proper engineer one time Aston Martin development engineer and is a wizard!"
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