RE: PH Carpool: LS3-powered TVR Cerbera

RE: PH Carpool: LS3-powered TVR Cerbera

Monday 21st May 2012

PH Carpool: LS3-powered TVR Cerbera

PHer Paul Chance talks us through his 200mph Cerbera



Name: Paul Chance
Car: LS3-engined TVR Cerbera (was 4.2 AJP)
Owned since: Well, it's been on the road for five years, plus six months to do a complete restoration
Previously owned: TVR 400SE, Chimaera 4.0


Why I bought it:
It was Craig at Dyno Torque's fault really, I had originally had the 400SE and I converted that to a big-valve 4.6. I then bought the TVR Chimaera and swapped the big engine from the 400 into the Chim.

Craig had upgraded from an LS1 stroker, which was a 6.3, and it was sat in the corner and he made me buy it! (I have since upgraded to a 6.9-litre motor). The Chim was death defying at high speed even with my big Rover lump in it, so I decided to go for a more modern TVR variant. At this point, then, I had an engine but nowhere to put it!

I decided it had to be a TVR donor car and - eventually - this Cerbera came up with a snapped crank. So I went to Cheshire to see it and had to have it - the interior blew me away, while its aggressive looks made me think it was a perfect place to plonk the LS3 motor.

What I wish I'd known:
I got the car back to the workshops and pulled the engine. I then steamed the chassis down and inspected the car. It had been covered in black goo underneath and, after I had steamed this horrible stuff off, the grim reality struck...the outriggers where well past their sell-by date and holes in the chassis rails by where the exhaust routed were plain to see.

Not every track day ends well...
Not every track day ends well...
There was only one option: pull the body off and do a total rebuild. I did a deal with Craig to rent a ramp and got stuck in, Craig helped where I got stuck or needed a lift and welded the custom manifolds up for me, I did all of the cutting and shutting of the manifolds, as I managed to obtain an Aston Martin V8 Le Mans car manifold in kit form and adapt it to this application.

Things I love:
It's still a bit of a Q-car, people expect it to be quick, but this thing quarters in 10 seconds, so going to a 'run what you brung' and seeing off 'proper' dragsters is funny. As are track days, where 'supercars' get a serious fright.

The torque is immense. If you squeeze the throttle at any revs and in any gear the acceleration is crushing, but it still revs to 7,000rpm plus. At these revs it sounds fantastic, breathing through eight Kinsler throttle bodies sourced off a Mosler.


Things I hate:
It has been a battle to stop things breaking; drive shafts/diff mounts/diff and even the TKO 600 gearbox had to be uprated after 12 months or so. But (fingers crossed) now it is staying together after numerous upgrades.

Costs:
Fuel bills when being used in anger are pretty steep, when I went to Bruntingthorpe to crack 200mph it was down to three or four mpg, but if you cruise on the motorway it can nudge 20mpg. I do all maintenance myself and if I need to borrow a ramp or get something welded I pop down to Dyno Torque and sort it out.

Where I've been:
Numerous Trackdays, Run What You Brung at Santa Pod and Shakepeare's Raceway, also Bruntingthorpe Proving Ground last March, where I achieved 202mph.


What next?
I would like to (tastfully) flare-arch the car, as getting the power down is proving a challenge! Other than that, it's not going anywhere for the foreseeable future!

Full car spec:
98 4.2 Cerbera
Chassis rebuild including beefed up anti-roll bar and diff mounts
TKO600 gearbox with uprated shifter fork pads
LS3 block bored and stroked, forged pistons and crank (6.9-litre)
Dart aftermarket heads, self ported
Comp dual valve springs, shimmed to suit cam
Custom camshaft
Kinsler independent throttle bodies (sourced from a Mosler GT car)
LS7 clutch
Emerald 3D engine management
343mm AP Racing brakes
Race seats and harnesses


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Author
Discussion

SamGad

Original Poster:

131 posts

165 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Ah ha, I was wondering about the bright red Cerb' I saw in Birmingham last week.
Sounds like a bit of a beast!

crusty cobb

33 posts

209 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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LOOKS LIKE FUN TO ME

dublet

283 posts

211 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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+2 for the car;
-1 for the crappy music on the video.

philkermeen

28 posts

147 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Brilliant - you are definitely mad - in a good way :-D

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Very very cool car! biggrin

Fluffsri

3,161 posts

196 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Love it!

JMF894

5,494 posts

155 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Sounds awesome and i can imagine scaring supercars is great fun!


AyBee

10,532 posts

202 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Love it cloud9

avhbi

104 posts

188 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Engine pictures please. Especially if it's got 8 great honking trumpets. bow

Ryvita

712 posts

210 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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I can't stop staring at the photo of it in the gravel trap... :S

Big thumbs up to both car and owner (for having the guts to share such a photo) though!

leeson660

429 posts

165 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Really like that real beast bet it sounds amazing.

What sort out power would that be putting out chaps?

TristPerrin

135 posts

178 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Awesome!

I love the picture in the gravel. The twisty skid marks in the grass suggest like it was a rather scary experience and that it takes a fair bit of skill to tame this beast eek

E500 TAT

317 posts

199 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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It's a real shame he drives it like a complete prick at track days ignoring the rules set out at the briefing about not overtaking in the bends or in the braking zones.

And don't give me no grief about moaning and groaning, i paid my money to go on track at mallory on saturday, i went into the briefing and i agreed to abide by the rules set up by the guys in charge.

Then when your out on track the last thing you expect is some prick diving up the inside of you as your braking and about to turn into the hairpin.

If you want to go racing, get a licence and go racing, this was a track day for people of all abilities to try and enjoy a great day out.

If i'd have found you in the paddock after that second session you'd have got my mouthfull face to face. luckily when i found out you were in one of the pit garages later in the day i'd calmed down by then but i did notice you out on the track doing the same stuff.

Rant over.

FisiP1

1,279 posts

153 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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E500 TAT said:
It's a real shame he drives it like a complete prick at track days ignoring the rules set out at the briefing about not overtaking in the bends or in the braking zones.

And don't give me no grief about moaning and groaning, i paid my money to go on track at mallory on saturday, i went into the briefing and i agreed to abide by the rules set up by the guys in charge.

Then when your out on track the last thing you expect is some prick diving up the inside of you as your braking and about to turn into the hairpin.

If you want to go racing, get a licence and go racing, this was a track day for people of all abilities to try and enjoy a great day out.

If i'd have found you in the paddock after that second session you'd have got my mouthfull face to face. luckily when i found out you were in one of the pit garages later in the day i'd calmed down by then but i did notice you out on the track doing the same stuff.

Rant over.
7/10 biglaugh

kwak

210 posts

152 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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avhbi said:
Engine pictures please. Especially if it's got 8 great honking trumpets. bow
This! How can you do a piece like this, and not include engine pictures?

FWDRacer

3,564 posts

224 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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I'd be investing in a new front bonnet/clam pretty soon. Keep an eye on retention. It "grows" considerably on that Brunters run hehe

Car gets thumbup from me.

Porkie

2,378 posts

241 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Cool car, nice owner as well. Met them both at a trackday at Donno earlier in the year. Have some videos with me following it as well. Its got some grunt on the straights thats for sure!

oh and I am not sure if many people realise what an incredible acheivement 202mph at Brunters is. You need a VERY fast car.




Edited by Porkie on Monday 21st May 14:30

epom

11,485 posts

161 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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TristPerrin said:
Awesome!

I love the picture in the gravel. The twisty skid marks in the grass suggest like it was a rather scary experience and that it takes a fair bit of skill to tame this beast eek
yep impressed that pic was included too smile

thewheelman

2,194 posts

173 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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The idea of an LS engined Cerbera has always been something i'd like to do. I'll now waste the rest of the day looking at Cerbs & the price of a crate engine.

You bd! wink


johnpeat

5,326 posts

265 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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I wouldn't worry too much about the 'taste' of flared arches on a car which already has a pizza-holder on the bonnet...

Huge car, obviously - shame about that tho, spoils the looks a bit (I realise that's not the point of this car!!)