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Wednesday 6th June 2012

Isle of Man TT with Mark Higgins

Who'd be daft enough to accept a ride with Mark Higgins around the TT course after last year? Er, us...



Day one
When a three-time British Rally Champion proclaims “…and that’s the biggest moment of my life there” on video, you know that the preceding piece of car control must have taken superhuman skill to keep it out of the scenery – firing a Subaru WRX STi between two dry stone walls at 150mph while fighting to keep it in a straight line ranks highly on the “Oh, sh…” scale.

Higgins shows Sean round in a BRZ
Higgins shows Sean round in a BRZ
The TT mountain course is a fearsomely complex piece of tarmac to drive. To combat the track in a car is difficult, but to do it on a 230hp superbike topping speeds of over 200mph is plain insane.

“There are a few scary parts on the track,” says Higgins. “Even before my big moment I’ve always found the bottom of Bray Hill daunting. Nearly losing it last year, I’m always mindful of it going through there.

“It’s flat out in the car and there’s a compression right at the bottom followed by a bump – that’s the reason we had the slide through there. The car bottomed out and the wheel arch kissed the tyre sending it sideways.”

No less drama, despite Impreza power deficit
No less drama, despite Impreza power deficit
He continues, “It was a full hands off the wheel job to catch it. I was using one and a half turns of lock one way and the same the next. You have to look at where you want to go – if you look at something, that’s where you tend to end up. If we’d have hit anything it would have been a huge shunt.”

Even though Higgins was born on the island, he says it took him countless laps over years to properly learn the course, and that with every tour he’s still learning. There’s no hope for me then.

Sat on the start line of the 37.73-mile TT mountain course, ready to follow Higgins round the Manxman’s back yard, I’m glad he’ll be lapping at a much reduced pace.

Sean gets to grips with the TT on four wheels
Sean gets to grips with the TT on four wheels
I’m in a Subaru WRX STI 320R and it’s nigh on the perfect car for the circuit. The stonking mid-range and security from the four-wheel drive system lets you use liberal amounts of throttle on the many blind exits around the lap. It’s forgiving, too. Through high speed direction changes the car rolls and turn-in isn’t as precise as you’d like, but it’s well suited to the TT course – not overly stiff and with plenty of grip.

Two successful laps completed, including putting clear daylight between the Subaru’s tyres and the tarmac at Ballaugh Bridge, I can go away pleased. Having driven the Nurburgring with BMW’s M driver training (watch out for that one on PH soon), to me at least, the mountain course is a more relentless, more challenging and scarier proposition altogether.


Day two
While day one was just a leisurely jaunt round the course, for Higgins, day two is where he can really show how it’s done. With a switch to Subaru’s new BRZ, closed roads, a professional rally driver and miserable conditions I’m in for a more representative ride of what he and a well prepared car can do.

RWD or not it's still a Subaru!
RWD or not it's still a Subaru!
Strapping myself in next to Higgins I’m excited to see just how a quick a properly piloted car can demolish what he rates as “probably the bumpiest bit of road on the island.”

His BRZ isn’t quite standard, however. It’s been lightly breathed on and has new wheels and tyres – junking the Toyota Prius OEM hoops – as well as some trick three-way adjustable dampers and removal of most of the car’s interior.

To the uninitiated co-driver like me, it seems quick. He’s a racer first and foremost and it’s his job to not just push the envelope, but lick the stamp, write the address and drop it in the post box. So when we set off down the greasy wet stage seemingly no wider than a BRZ, Higgins candid comment of “I only usually crash in fifth or sixth gear anyway” is ringing in my securely buckled crash hat.

Car is more or less standard
Car is more or less standard
He’s been tweaking the car’s set up all day and reckons he’s somewhere near now – even as a passenger you can feel the difference in how the chassis reacts. A little more compression damping on the rear to stop it bottoming out keeps it more stable over the appalling surface, asking a little less of Higgins’ awesome car control.

“This must feel slow to you though?” I ask him. “Yeah, it does. All I need now is another 200hp,” he replies. Rally drivers, hey…

 





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gforceg

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Now, which would you choose? This or the San Remo tyre launch day?

OzzyR1

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Oh dear, is this the start of the annual "would a car or bike be faster round the TT circuit" bunfight.

If so, I predict 10 large pages minimum and whoever currently holds the popcorn concession is going to make a fortune.

DanDC5

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OzzyR1 said:
Oh dear, is this the start of the annual "would a car or bike be faster round the TT circuit" bunfight.

If so, I predict 10 large pages minimum and whoever currently holds the popcorn concession is going to make a fortune.
I have an answer for this, if it was us mere mortals driving/riding then a car. If it was the true mentalists/pros, whichever you prefer to call them, then a bike. I can't imagine any car hitting the speeds the bikes do across the mountain, and I'd imagine that advantage alone would keep it ahead over the whole lap.

vtgts300kw

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No video?!

tight5

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"Sat on the start line of the 35.8-mile TT mountain course"

surely 37.73 miles ?
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Dan Trent

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Corrected!

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tight5

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Dan Trent said:
Corrected!

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Dan Trent

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For the record, my cock-up too, not Sean's! Got my mucking figures fuddled.

Use Psychology

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DanDC5 said:
I have an answer for this, if it was us mere mortals driving/riding then a car. If it was the true mentalists/pros, whichever you prefer to call them, then a bike. I can't imagine any car hitting the speeds the bikes do across the mountain, and I'd imagine that advantage alone would keep it ahead over the whole lap.
no.

DanDC5

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Use Psychology said:
no.
That's some great input there.

Thanks

SSBB

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And so it begins...

DanDC5

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SSBB said:
And so it begins...
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omgus

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SSBB said:
And so it begins...
Ten posts, that must be a new record. rofl

Use Psychology

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Use Psychology said:
no.
That's some great input there.

Thanks
okay

car: means all cars

bikes: means all bikes

cars are faster than bikes, they have more grip, can brake harder, can corner faster, and appropriately built have competitve power to weight ratios with bikes.

take a track, road, whatever, build a bike for it and a car for it. the car will be faster. always.

DanDC5

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I don't disagree. But what car would you send round the TT course to beat the fastest bikes? I can't think of one that I'd be 100% certain would win.

ManOpener

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Use Psychology said:
and appropriately built have competitve power to weight ratios with bikes.
Oh yes, because even the top tiers of the racing world are rife with 1530bhp/tonne cars.

Use Psychology

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I suspect an F1 car would have a similar power to weight ratio if it didn't have any ballast. as it is they are what, ~800hp and 600kg? they are restricted on engine power AND on minimum weight. remove the restrictions and they'd easily beat the figure you suggested.

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DanDC5 said:
I don't disagree. But what car would you send round the TT course to beat the fastest bikes? I can't think of one that I'd be 100% certain would win.
some approrpiately modified (bigger fuel tank) hill climb car I think.

DanDC5

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It'd be interesting to find out if nothing else. An F1 car would struggle, even in Monaco spec the the roads would be too bumpy and the tarmac not grippy enough to get maximum performance, if it could get all the way round with losing it's front wing. Something ridiculous like the Suzuki Pikes Peak car has potential.

ManOpener

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Use Psychology said:
DanDC5 said:
I don't disagree. But what car would you send round the TT course to beat the fastest bikes? I can't think of one that I'd be 100% certain would win.
some approrpiately modified (bigger fuel tank) hill climb car I think.
Hillclimb and sprint cars only work when they stay on the ground- such is the nature of their aerodynamics. They also tend to be geared very short. Most hillclimbs don't involve prolonged periods spent with wheels off the ground, or for that matter 200mph straights.
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