RE: 991 Carrera 4 announced

RE: 991 Carrera 4 announced

Tuesday 28th August 2012

991 Carrera 4 announced

Here we go then - the 991 range begins its inexorable expansion with the arrival of Carrera 4 and 4 S



It seems like only last week (er, it was) we raised the idea that Porsches were getting a bit too grip fixated for their own good and then we get the announcement of ... even grippier ones!

Wake us up for the GT3 please...
Wake us up for the GT3 please...
Yes, if all the technological might of PASM, PTV Plus, PDCC, PSM and steamroller width tyres really can't keep you on the road the four-wheel drive 991 is here, official info on the Carrera 4, 4 S and associated cabrio versions now released.

So if you were uncertain about how to spec your new 911 and which options to choose (it's easy - Carrera 2, manual, 19-inch wheels, sports exhaust) prepare for further confusion.

Badging aside the new 4 and 4 S models are also our first glimpse of a widebody 991, the rear arches 22mm wider than the two-wheel drive versions we've had thus far. And if you don't notice that you're sure to spot the reflector bar that links the rear light clusters.

Four-wheel drive 911s broader in the beam
Four-wheel drive 911s broader in the beam
Spec/Tech-wise it's all fundamentally the same as two-wheel drive Carreras, meaning a 3.4-litre, 350hp flat-six as standard and 400hp 3.8 for the S, seven-speed manual as standard with PDK as an option. 0-62 for the Carrera 4 is from 4.5 seconds and 4.1 seconds for the S, their respective Cabriolet versions two tenths slower in each case. Carrera 2s are about a tenth quicker generally speaking, though it varies exactly according PDK and whether or not you have Sports Chrono. Four-wheel drive on 997s added around 50kg to the overall weight, Porsche claiming a 65kg weight saving like for like for 991 4 and 4 S over their 997 equivalents.

The new four-wheel drive models do roll in a few new features too, not least a glass sunroof for coupes, a display showing you what PTM (Porsche Traction Management) is doing with the drive torque and 'extended' Sports Chrono with auto double-declutching on downshifts when you're in Sports Plus mode. There's also an option of Adaptive Cruise Control, now available across the 991 range, which, with PDK, features yet another acronym: PAS. This one apparently prevents front-end crashes, the implication being if you can defeat the electronic cordon Porsche has thrown around this car you really are an idiot.

You'll be well into six figures by now
You'll be well into six figures by now
Do you really need four driven wheels on your 911 though? Just over a third of 997.2 buyers said they did, pricing yet to be confirmed in the UK but, for context, a Carrera 2 starts at 88,037 euros in Germany while a Carrera 4 will cost 97,557 euros. Extrapolate that to the UK and it's clear a few ticks on the options sheet will mean even a Carrera 4 coupe is going to clear the six-figure hurdle without any difficulty at all.

 

 

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HeMightBeBanned

Original Poster:

617 posts

178 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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I love 911s but am struggling to get excited about the 991. I've seen a few now and compared to a 997, they appear quite a lot larger. I don't know whether this is an illusion or not. However, I'm not a fan of the trend whereby successive generations of cars get ever bigger. Wasn't the 997 big enough already?

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

265 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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So 80's full width rear reflectors are back?

[troll]

Also isn't this just the 911 for people who are scared of driving? Or does 4WD add something other than a safety net?

[/troll]

billzeebub

3,864 posts

199 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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would rather have a 993 C4S any day

HeMightBeBanned

Original Poster:

617 posts

178 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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Captain Muppet said:
Or does 4WD add something other than a safety net?
Weight wink

ZesPak

24,428 posts

196 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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I like the 911 and like the 991. But this is all getting a bit repetitive. Agreed, why would they change if they sell well, but it's hardly news anymore. The 4WD might as well be another expensive option to tick, rather than a different model.

housen

2,366 posts

192 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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didnt see this coming haha

Martian O

2,734 posts

162 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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Captain Muppet said:
....Also isn't this just the 911 for people who are scared of driving? Or does 4WD add something other than a safety net?
Nice to see you're living up to your name! jester

housen

2,366 posts

192 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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HeMightBeBanned said:
Captain Muppet said:
Or does 4WD add something other than a safety net?
Weight wink
understeer

soad

32,894 posts

176 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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billzeebub said:
would rather have a 993 C4S any day
Aye, me too.

OffdutyRockstar

13 posts

171 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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I don't know why there's so much fluff... the modern 911 will always have 4WD variants whether you like it or not.

Widebody and reflector strip look absolutely gorgeous... I wish it wasn't limited to the 4WD variants which admittedly would not be my choice...

SFO

5,169 posts

183 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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UK prices are on www.porsche.co.uk

roughly £7k more than 2WD equivalent

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

265 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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Martian O said:
Captain Muppet said:
....Also isn't this just the 911 for people who are scared of driving? Or does 4WD add something other than a safety net?
Nice to see you're living up to your name! jester
Thanks for leaving out the [troll] [/troll] bit, no one likes context.

Also thanks for being the thousandth person to type that very same post over the last ten years. Well done, it's like a right of passage for people who can't think of anything relevant or witty to post.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

247 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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I must say that I am thrilled that the brown paint job, so beloved of British Leyland cars in the 70's, is making a comeback.

No matter what the car, painting it brown surely elevates its status to that of art. Beautiful, just beautiful.

I wish brown never falls out of fashion because it looks some damn good.

Burnham

3,668 posts

259 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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SFO said:
UK prices are on www.porsche.co.uk

roughly £7k more than 2WD equivalent
I think its a real shame you cant have the wide rear with 2WD, like the 993. I think I'd still have to have a CarreraS and spend the £7k difference on some fruity options.

em177

3,131 posts

164 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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Now. In my 21 years of being a massive 911 fan. This picture is the first ever pic. From any angle, of any 911 convertible variant that looks like something I'd consider buying!


stuckmojo

2,979 posts

188 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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Good that it exists, but not for me. Manual C2 as long as they make it.

epom

11,515 posts

161 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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Any diesel in the works ?? getmecoat

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

161 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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doogz said:
em177 said:
Now. In my 21 years of being a massive 911 fan. This picture is the first ever pic. From any angle, of any 911 convertible variant that looks like something I'd consider buying!

The badges on the back look f-ing awful!
Agree, don't even look straight... A bit like someone has bought them from Halfords and stuck them on themselves.

Debadged it would look awesome though.

Jakdaw

291 posts

210 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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doogz said:
The badges on the back look f-ing awful!
yes

Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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epom said:
Any diesel in the works ?? getmecoat
Hybrid 1st. smile