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Wednesday 12th September 2012

Mercedes-Benz W124 300 TE 4Matic Estate: Spotted

Chris Harris gets misty eyed over an apparently box fresh 80s Merc Estate.



Now this, if it checks out, is a little bit special.

A delivery miles pre-facelift, 1988 W124 E300 4Matic Estate.

There’s a little bit of me – the profoundly unadventurous portion – that wonders why any car manufacturer which can claim to have built an iconic model in the past 40 years doesn’t just constantly hark-back to that design. It has hardly done Porsche much harm, has it?

I wrote a column about this years ago: Peugeot should just do a modern, crash-resistant 205, that way people like me would stop crapping on about the old days and it would probably sell more cars.

Likewise, perhaps Mercedes should just re-imagine the W124, because the world just seems to love the things – me included.

I’ve often wondered how a new W124 would fare in a group test of modern machines – no doubt it would be toasted in every objective area, but I bet it would feel like a lower-volume, more special machine than anything from 2012. Driving this might answer that question.

Of course what you want to ask the chap selling this one is simply: “How?”

And, “Where did it come from?” And a dozen other questions, including “And why have you got another near-zero-miles W124 for sale too?”

No doubt it’ll need anything rubber in the engine bay and attached to an alloy wheel replaced because it will have perished and cracked, and after 24 years the air-con might need a re-charge.

But right now I’m wondering if there’s a cooler new estate on the market than a box-fresh W124.

Click here to see more Mercedes W124s in our classifieds, including this at entirely the other end of the spectrum

 

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BeirutTaxi

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So far the best examples of W124 I've seen for sale are sold by Nick Froome (also a PH member).

Adverts for past and present cars for sale can be found here: http://www.w124.co.uk/carsforsale.php

Best regards,

Matt.

BMWill

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nice!! but pic link not working??

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LaurasOtherHalf

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There was a lovely one for sale at the carfest auction last weekend. Didn't see what it went for?

drivin_me_nuts

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Interesting price tag. No matter how rose tinted the bins might be, that's a lot of cash for an old estate car.

Gorbyrev

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My old neighbour had two, both with north of 100,000 miles on the clock. (I say neighbour, I was in a terraced farm cottage and Mr Salvesen was in the Manor house!) W124 looked great alongside my white 205 with red reflector strip, oh yes! Love the idea of sticking with and refining a design. There is a certain classless timelessness about getting it right. And while we are at it, why didn't Lambourghini put that Miura concept into production or VW that fabby retro T5 Transporter based wonder that is gone from my life because my youngest son trashed the Bburago version in our house?

Edited by Gorbyrev on Wednesday 12th September 09:15

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LordFlathead

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Solid car and rare find no doubt but 35k euros I would give it a miss. That 3 litre engine is agricultural compared to modern engines and it also drinks fuel like its going out of fashion. I've seen immaculate cars of similar ages for around £1500. There are plenty about.

f1ten

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solid, indestructable and now seen as the classy elegant machine it always was.
the last proper mercedes to be produced.
wake up Mercedes and stop making crap like the A B R CLS CLC etc class... greed got the better of them.

jke11y

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Call me Mr Sceptical (or maybe my German is useless) but looking at the interior shot of the other car thats up at €25k with 150km, this does not look particularly new; brake pedal, seats and wheel for example...




E30M3SE

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Nice it might well be, but it's not ~£28,000 nice.

Chicane-UK

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I had a W124 200TE. Would be derided by most Merc enthusiasts as it only had the 2 litre 4 cylinder engine, AND had a manual box. However despite being north of 180,000 miles the manual box was absolutely sweet and it ran like a champ.

Sadly a very expensive sounding twang from the rear end one day when the car was heavily loaded and some bodywork issues saw me chop it on scrappage scheme for a now ex-girlfriend. I wish I'd kept it, and saved it. It was such a good car for so many reasons:

  • Cavernous
  • Comfortable
  • Quiet
  • Despite it's size, very easy to park
  • Despite the weedy engine it was really quick!
  • Other W124 owners would always come over and chat / wave!
I'd seriously consider another some day..

BeirutTaxi

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f1ten said:
indestructable
My experience (albeit a limited one) of old Mercs is that they're only solid if the service history is complete.

MUCH better to splash out for a good one at a price than a bad cheap one, the bad ones can have £xxxx thrown at them and still not be great.

Johnboy Mac

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LordFlathead said:
Solid car and rare find no doubt but 35k euros I would give it a miss. That 3 litre engine is agricultural compared to modern engines and it also drinks fuel like its going out of fashion. I've seen immaculate cars of similar ages for around £1500. There are plenty about.
If one wants an as new, fully loaded 4matic estate it's cheap. As for M103 engine, they are still a sweet six pot with one of the best slush boxes ever made attached too. Fuel wise it won't be near modern stuff but I'm sure an average of 22mpg is a reasonable prospect. As for those £1500 one's, well it would be like comparing chalk & cheese, better off looking for a plain Jane 300E saloon sans 4matic for that very modest sum and having another 1500 to spend on it.







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Husaberk

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Sorry but that has to be one of the most visually dull cars ever made, the words matronly, chubby, plain, inelegant leap to my lips when looking at it. I don't think it's even got enough about it to even call it ugly. I'm know as a car they have many fine points but when people say these look great I genuinely scratch my head.

Chicane-UK

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Husaberk said:
Sorry but that has to be one of the most visually dull cars ever made, the words matronly, chubby, plain, inelegant leap to my lips when looking at it. I don't think it's even got enough about it to even call it ugly. I'm know as a car they have many fine points but when people say these look great I genuinely scratch my head.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.. I honestly thing they're wonderfully handsome old things. In fact I'd go so far as to rate them above a number of other so called 'pretty' cars.

StottyZr

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I've been looking at buying an old 300 diesel one of these for a very long time. In the classified some are priced at under 2k, others over 8k and I can't see a difference between then confused

jke11y

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StottyZr said:
I've been looking at buying an old 300 diesel one of these for a very long time. In the classified some are priced at under 2k, others over 8k and I can't see a difference between then confused
I am pretty sure if you viewed some in person you would.

CampDavid

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http://home.mobile.de/MBROHWEDER#des_137239067

Same dealer. 10k km old 500E for €30k

Nice.

CYMR0

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"Lack mit gebrauchsspuhren,auf beseitigung wurde bewust verzichtet"

Apart from the horrendous spelling, it doesn't make much sense: the paint has traces of use, that have deliberately not been corrected...

The 150km car is even weirder..

"300 TE 4-Matic mit 150 Km.(Km angaben sind verbindlich) Grundrevision Lack im originalzustand mit geringen Ausbesserungen,Innenausstattung teilweise Neu,Technik kommplett Neu."

Fully restored ... paint in original condition with minor improvements, interior partially new, mechanically completely new.

lukeschwartz

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Love is in the air..
Kombis are for prams arnt they?

crosseyedlion

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BeirutTaxi said:
My experience (albeit a limited one) of old Mercs is that they're only solid if the service history is complete.

MUCH better to splash out for a good one at a price than a bad cheap one, the bad ones can have £xxxx thrown at them and still not be great.
Well, my family has run 3x w124 mercs, A 300e that ended up at 300k, Another one that was pushing 500k and a 230te that we sold at 240k. (all miles...not km)

We put most of the miles on all of them, and they rarely wanted for anything.

For the last 100k of ownership none of them had much more than fluid top ups. All 3 ran very strongly and actually felt fairly fresh when we parted company (1 stolen, 1 written off and another sold in spain).

Awesome cars, indestructable is a good description- dirt cheap to run because of it. And I wouldn't baulk at a cheap 'bad' one....
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