Time for Tea? McLaren P12 teaser
Last week's picture is now a film, but it still doesn't give much away
So what's changed in a few days? Well, it certainly isn't a full-scale reveal (that won't come until Paris), but you do get to see more of the shape from different angles. McLaren certainly seems to be ramping up the drama with this car, the clearest silhouette being revealed in red and the intense soundtrack adding to the theatre.
Clearly the focus is on how the new car will cleave the air (the video is called 'McLaren vs. Aerodynamics, after all), which suggests lots of F1-style wind tunnel development. Given the effectiveness of the airbrake fitted to the MP4-12C, it wouldn't be a surprise to see some active aerodynamics feature on the P12.
But, of course, this is only what we can make out. Watch the video a few times with a brew and see what you can infer. Does this have the makings of an all-conquering hypercar?
The mp4-12c is super fast but maybe doesnt look or sound absolutely fantastic
The F1 was and is something which constantly puts my salivary glands into overtime
Please please please please please please please please pleeeeeeease make this look from another world and with the acoustics that no one has even imagined yet
lets see
6 litre naturally aspirated V12, 620bhp, 6 speed "H" pattern manual gearbox, Sub 1300kg kerb weight, Carbon fibre body, no traction control, no power brakes, no ABS, no power assisted steering and no driver aid gizmo's are things that make the F1 special.
We are all well aware that car technology, crash and emission control regulations have changed since the early 90s, so producing something similar to the F1 will be damn sight difficult.
Im not expecting a V12 but I am expecting electrics galore. So in my opinion a car not comparable to the F1.
The mp4-12c is super fast but maybe doesnt look or sound absolutely fantastic
The F1 was and is something which constantly puts my salivary glands into overtime
Please please please please please please please please pleeeeeeease make this look from another world and with the acoustics that no one has even imagined yet
lets see
Point being that they cannot make it appeal to everyone. beleive it or not some don't like the mclaren F1.
Sorry, that was blasphemous! I'll go birch myself now
Point being that they cannot make it appeal to everyone. beleive it or not some don't like the mclaren F1.
Sorry, that was blasphemous! I'll go birch myself now
most people out there do not crave exciting cars anymore
a noise from the engine?!!...... oh no! it hurts my ears so
forward thinking aesthetics you admire?.......no thanks, I want something to blend in. The lack of sound helps here also
its 2012, and I now realise Im wrong for thinking McLarens top newest bestest car ever to be exciting
silly me
We are all well aware that car technology, crash and emission control regulations have changed since the early 90s, so producing something similar to the F1 will be damn sight difficult.
Im not expecting a V12 but I am expecting electrics galore. So in my opinion a car not comparable to the F1.
Why would you want them to make another car like the F1? That car has been made already, groundbreaking in its day but now it's time for something new. Companies have to move on to stay in the game, and people have to accept this.
6 litre naturally aspirated V12, 620bhp, 6 speed "H" pattern manual gearbox, Sub 1300kg kerb weight, Carbon fibre body, no traction control, no power brakes, no ABS, no power assisted steering and no driver aid gizmo's are things that make the F1 special.
We are all well aware that car technology, crash and emission control regulations have changed since the early 90s, so producing something similar to the F1 will be damn sight difficult.
Im not expecting a V12 but I am expecting electrics galore. So in my opinion a car not comparable to the F1.
The games moved on so much can this car really sit at the top of all factors and be the best driving machine without slotting itself down a certain path? I wait in hope that they do, from what I gather the MP4 may be the more efficient and dominant performer but it was the 458 which won the drivers title in the last bout. I feel we may have left the age of the objectively dominant super/hypercar to the subjective.
Massive anticipation...
We are all well aware that car technology, crash and emission control regulations have changed since the early 90s, so producing something similar to the F1 will be damn sight difficult.
Im not expecting a V12 but I am expecting electrics galore. So in my opinion a car not comparable to the F1.
Why would you want them to make another car like the F1? That car has been made already, groundbreaking in its day but now it's time for something new. Companies have to move on to stay in the game, and people have to accept this.
The F1 was the best car in its generation and all by using great basic engineering principles. You wont find anything fancy on the F1 with the exception of the 24c gold leaf foil used for heat management. Its principles was based on lightweight materials, the best materials available, Naturally aspirated high output engine, a carbon construction, well balanced chassis, and streamlined body. The speed and performance figures were a result of the finished example.
How many super cars are produced in this day and age that are just full of driver aids? To the purist all the electric add ons take away the magic no matter how good the car is.
To those rich enough and fortunate enough who own McLarens, Ferraris, Lambos, Bugattis, Zondas etc... It will be interesting to see what they prefer, which is a drivers car and which is merely and engineering fort. Do they prefer the modern day computer controlled car or those that make you think about what you are doing behind the wheel, where traction control is monitored and controlled by the drivers feel in his backside, feet and hands.
Surely out of all current modern day hyper cars the Zonda is the nearest thing to the F1. That is what I am hoping McLaren re-produced.
From a manufacturing point of view, think of the costings and weight McLaren will save if gizmos were thrown out and simplicity was introduced into design.
Surely there is still room in the hyper car market for an improvement to what already exists?
Modern day technology has moved on leaps and bounds but is it essential for every new car to have it all?
There are cars out there that are faster and better well equip't in comparison to the F1 but it seems no matter what car they are, they all look up and admire the F1. Still the King.
The F1 was the best car in its generation and all by using great basic engineering principles. You wont find anything fancy on the F1 with the exception of the 24c gold leaf foil used for heat management. Its principles was based on lightweight materials, the best materials available, Naturally aspirated high output engine, a carbon construction, well balanced chassis, and streamlined body. The speed and performance figures were a result of the finished example.
How many super cars are produced in this day and age that are just full of driver aids? To the purist all the electric add ons take away the magic no matter how good the car is.
To those rich enough and fortunate enough who own McLarens, Ferraris, Lambos, Bugattis, Zondas etc... It will be interesting to see what they prefer, which is a drivers car and which is merely and engineering fort. Do they prefer the modern day computer controlled car or those that make you think about what you are doing behind the wheel, where traction control is monitored and controlled by the drivers feel in his backside, feet and hands.
Surely out of all current modern day hyper cars the Zonda is the nearest thing to the F1. That is what I am hoping McLaren re-produced.
From a manufacturing point of view, think of the costings and weight McLaren will save if gizmos were thrown out and simplicity was introduced into design.
Surely there is still room in the hyper car market for an improvement to what already exists?
Modern day technology has moved on leaps and bounds but is it essential for every new car to have it all?
There are cars out there that are faster and better well equip't in comparison to the F1 but it seems no matter what car they are, they all look up and admire the F1. Still the King.
Surely the F1 was technologically advanced for the period its time? I wonder if this forum existed 20 years ago whether there would be some objection to some of the new technology in that car? I don't doubt that it's a 'purists' car, but that's somewhat down to the fact that it was made in the early 90s when electronics like this didn't exist. The F1 was clearly very fast, I just don't think that applying the same philosophy today will produce the car everyone expects.
This is about choice. If McLaren make the fastest car using any technology they can, and other manufacturers make a more basic car that is more involving to drive, then you make your choice as the consumer about what you want.
Also I do think people overract about driving aids ruining the experience when they say the GTR or the MP4-12C is boring. It's almost become a bit of a buzz phrase.
I would rather they were a couple of seconds slower around a track and provided more entertainment
Back to back drives of a tuned r34 and then a new GTR has shown me that the GTR is much much faster but the old r34, was the more enjoyable drive. The r34 had under 500bhp it wasnt a total monster.
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