RE: Time for Tea? Jaguar E1A

RE: Time for Tea? Jaguar E1A

Friday 21st September 2012

Time for Tea? Jaguar E1A

Before the F-Type, there was the E-Type. And before that, there was the E1A. Would you like some oversteer with your tea?



After waiting more than 35 years for a true Jaguar E-Type successor, the emergence of official F-Type pictures this week deserved some recognition. Moreover, the F-Type is a 21st century intepretation of its legendary forebear, so it seems appropriate to celebrate with some 1950s film.

Now, there's lots of E-Type footage on YouTube from events such as the Goodwood Revival and Silverstone Classic. Very nice much of it is too, but perhaps a little predictable for discerning PH viewers.

So how about some footage of the first E-Type prototype? Having been built in 1957, E1A was scrapped long before the first production car emerged from Coventry; consequently, little is known of it. Even this clip has attracted less than 1700 views in two and a half years.

But it really is a fascinating car and story. The full details can be discovered in the video, but E1A was two-thirds the size of the first production E-Type, and incorporated exisiting ideas from the D-Type with the new design ideas of Malcolm Sayer. It resembles something of an E-Type embryo; the basic shape is there but it's bereft of the final details and still needs to grow.

The clip also documents the opinions of legendary Jaguar test driver Norman Dewis, who famously drove an E-Type from Browns Lane to the Geneva Show in about ten minutes. Apparently, E1A felt "very twitchy" and "like it was being steered from the rear". Watch the vid of it on the test track and you'll see what he means. Lairy oversteer appears to be its default mode on anything other than a ruler-straight road. Clearly, while the styling was nearly there, the E-Type's handling still required some finessing in the late 1950s...

Take a seat and brush up on your Jaguar history. For those of you lucky enough to be contemplating an F-Type, here's where it all began.

 

 

 

Author
Discussion

GranCab

Original Poster:

2,902 posts

146 months

Friday 21st September 2012
quotequote all
Amazing footage - the E-Type's DNA is there to be seen

B10

1,238 posts

267 months

Friday 21st September 2012
quotequote all
I would be suprised if it was actually 2/3rds the size of the E type.

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

183 months

Friday 21st September 2012
quotequote all
Shame she was broken up. A scaled down E Type would have given the Healey 3000 and AC Ace a run.

brett84

1,291 posts

153 months

Friday 21st September 2012
quotequote all
I LOVE E Types, but cannot believe the price of some now though, £229K anyone http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1967-JAGUAR-E-TYPE-LOW-D...

joe58

711 posts

151 months

Friday 21st September 2012
quotequote all
brett84 said:
I LOVE E Types, but cannot believe the price of some now though, £229K anyone http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1967-JAGUAR-E-TYPE-LOW-D...
Not all are like that, that's a 'special' Low Drag.

louismchuge

1,628 posts

184 months

Friday 21st September 2012
quotequote all
and not a 'real' one either! Very nice though

esv683

109 posts

267 months

Friday 21st September 2012
quotequote all
E1A Found again by Bob Watson in a coventry scrap yard.

Edited by esv683 on Friday 21st September 18:53

RichB

51,568 posts

284 months

Friday 21st September 2012
quotequote all
Interesting piece an some interesting stuff on the Internet about this car. It had a 2.4 litre engine and was apparently 2' longer than a D-Type. I've never heard of this car but of course I am familiar with the E2A which recently raced at Goodwood. A smaller 2 seater with a 2.4 XK engine might have been sweet.

mikeg15

287 posts

200 months

Friday 21st September 2012
quotequote all
Dewis drifts better than Harris doncha think

JTJ

53 posts

140 months

Saturday 22nd September 2012
quotequote all
No one mentioned the unique high revving 3.0l straight six this car had, or why was it built, I think it produced around 290bhp at around 7000rpm!

status

251 posts

217 months

Saturday 22nd September 2012
quotequote all
Not sure if lairy oversteer is really fair on it. If it has 290hp then I'd expect it to be easy to drift the back end out as far as you like under power, given the narrow tyres it has. The shots right at the end of the segment look to be pretty neat cornering at speed, all things considered.

It's certainly nice looking, nicer than the E-type imho. Not sure what the "lump" is behind the driver in the shots starting around 3.22 though, odd shape for a soft top hood.

RichB

51,568 posts

284 months

Saturday 22nd September 2012
quotequote all
status said:
...Not sure what the "lump" is behind the driver in the shots starting around 3.22 though, odd shape for a soft top hood.
according to the info on Google it never had a hood or lights etc.

nicanary

9,793 posts

146 months

Saturday 22nd September 2012
quotequote all
RichB said:
according to the info on Google it never had a hood or lights etc.
The voice-over said they were cooling ducts for the rear brakes, although I can't see why it would need to be the whole width of the rear deck.

status

251 posts

217 months

Saturday 22nd September 2012
quotequote all
nicanary said:
The voice-over said ..
There's a soundtrack? Hmm, really must fix my laptop speakers!!!

RichB

51,568 posts

284 months

Saturday 22nd September 2012
quotequote all
nicanary said:
The voice-over said they were cooling ducts for the rear brakes, although I can't see why it would need to be the whole width of the rear deck.
Would that have had inboard rear discs? I don't know enough about Jag evolution to know from when they would have featured but if so perhaps that's why?

Carsie

925 posts

204 months

Saturday 22nd September 2012
quotequote all
esv683 said:
E1A Found again by Bob Watson in a coventry scrap yard.

Edited by esv683 on Friday 21st September 18:53
Tell me more.. Is this anything to do with the advertisement for the pre-production E Type that is advertised as "very expensive"?

esv683

109 posts

267 months

Sunday 23rd September 2012
quotequote all
Carsie said:
Tell me more.. Is this anything to do with the advertisement for the pre-production E Type that is advertised as "very expensive"?
Not sure about the advert i have not seen it,however i have spoken to Bob Watson and he tells me that he found the cut up remains of E1A in a scrapyard called Stickleys in 1991,apparently all the scrap from jaguar was sent there.
This is also quoted in Peter Wilsons book "Cat out of the bag".

Edited by esv683 on Sunday 23 September 17:13

Carsie

925 posts

204 months

Sunday 23rd September 2012
quotequote all
This is the advertisment I'm referring to

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAGUAR-E-TYPE-ROADSTER-P...



Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Monday 24th September 2012
quotequote all
joe58 said:
brett84 said:
I LOVE E Types, but cannot believe the price of some now though, £229K anyone http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1967-JAGUAR-E-TYPE-LOW-D...
Not all are like that, that's a 'special' Low Drag.
Low drags and lightweights are worth a fortune now.

However, with a lot of e types, just because the seller wants say £80k, it doesn't mean it is worth it. I have seen a few auctions with pristine examples, with the vendors/auction houses pricing at £80 - £100k and had bids fizzle out at around £50k.

Sellers are trying to drive the market on them at the moment.