RE: Driven: McLaren MP4-12C Spider

RE: Driven: McLaren MP4-12C Spider

Thursday 18th October 2012

McLaren MP4-12C Spider | PH Review

Is chopping the roof off the MP4-12C the making of it? Or ruination? Chris Harris decides...


There is a simple method for deciding how successful a conversion from coupe to convertible has been. The harder it is to spot any differences - be they dynamic or cosmetic - the greater the achievement for carmaker in question.

Sitting here two days after I drove the new MP4-12C Spider, I still can't think of any discernable dynamic difference between it and the coupe. It steers the same, it rides the same, it feels a little bit quicker than the last coupe I drove because it benefits from the 625hp upgrade coming for 2013 and now available as a retrofit to all earlier cars.

According to the rule, that must make it a blinding bit of kit.

Does what the coupe does, just windier

A stiff test
One of the main advantages of the McLaren's carbon tub is that removing the roof panel has no detrimental effect on chassis stiffness. The electric folding hardtop and the electric rear glass window add 40kg to the kerb weight, but I really couldn't feel any difference on the road or the track. Perhaps if you ran the two versions back-to-back you might notice a little extra laziness, some extra brake fade and the tyres letting go a touch sooner, but McLaren's main development honcho Chris Goodwin says "it takes quite a bit of time to spot them."

So dynamically, it's very much as you were. By that we mean intriguing, talented, banzai-fast and just very occasionally baffling. On the road the car really shines: it copes with changing surfaces better than any other car of its type and the driver has several different configurations to chose from - most of which are actually usable. The exception is the Track chassis mode which is just too stiff for the road.

This is now version 10 of the McLaren powertrain project, which is something the company is trying to present as a positive example of the way it intends to continuously develop cars throughout their lifetime. It's a nice attempt at parrying criticism of the car not being quite finished at launch, but we're not fooled. In the road car world, one version done well and from the start tends to be preferable.

Dropping the roof adds a bit of emotion

Upgrade programme
Anyway, I've always thought the powertrain was excellent, if a little lacking in some low-speed calibration. That's now fixed, and they've added more poke and a three-stage Intake Sound Generator which allows the driver three choices of noise level for each of the three powertrain modes. Yes, there's much to fiddle with here. This really is an anytime, anywhere machine. In full auto mode it will pootle with buses, in manual mode it feels as fast as anything I've driven this year. It also now sounds far more aggressive.

The foldable hardtop roof takes a claimed 17 seconds to open or close, and when closed the gap under the tonneau has two snazzy little bags which can hold some extra clobber, meaning the Spider actually has more luggage space than the coupe. You can raise or lower the roof at up to 19mph.

Compromise is notable by its absence

Roof-down you have all the advantages of open-air motoring, if indeed you want them. I have to say the wind-management in the cabin isn't all that impressive: at 85mph it's cascading around and those rear buttresses protrude just enough to have air rip off them and cause quite a bit of unwanted noise. I haven't driven a 458 Spider, but I gather it is slightly better in this respect.

Rugged and windswept
Roof up it's a little noisier than the coupe, but not too bad and you have the extra benefit of being able to drop that electric rear screen and allow more exhaust noise into the cabin.

There are two tyre options: both Pirelli. The standard P-Zero is a fine road tyre, the optional Corsa brings extra track performance, but I thought the basic P-Zero, even though less grippy gave a nicer balance on the track when hot because it allowed the car some more rear slip.

And that's what it looks like with the roof up

The car costs £195,500, or £19,500 more than the coupe. I'd personally steer clear of the optional carbon ceramic brakes because the pedal feel is still a little bit disconcerting, but otherwise it's not hard to see why McLaren expects 80 per cent of all 12C sales next year to be Spiders.

Me? I don't especially like convertibles, so I'd save the money and have a coupe because you still get that brilliant latest-spec powertrain, but the Spider remains a clever, if obvious expansion of the McLaren brand.


SPECIFICATION | MCLAREN MP4-12C SPIDER

Engine: 3,799cc, twin-turbo V8
Transmission: 7-speed SSG twin-clutch auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 625@7,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 442@3,000rpm
0-62mph: 3.1 sec (with optional Pirelli P Zero Corsa tyres)
Top speed: 204mph
Weight: 1,376kg ('dry')
MPG: 24.2mpg (NEDC combined)
CO2: 279g/km
Price: £195,500

 

 

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chris.wbaldwin

Original Poster:

14 posts

222 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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What an epic looking car!!!

Fartgalen

6,637 posts

207 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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What no vid ?

storminnorman

2,357 posts

152 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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that shade of orange has never looked better on that car

Ozone

3,045 posts

187 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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I'm sure i saw one of these last weekend covered in blue and white panels, it was going fairly quickly in the opposite direction so i didn't get a good look unfortunately.

SpudLink

5,775 posts

192 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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This may seem trivial, but this is the 1st time I noticed that the running lights match the McLaren logo.

Codswallop

5,250 posts

194 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Fartgalen said:
What no vid ?
Looks like there will be one given the camera on the windsceen frame;



This looks so much better than the coupe imo.

Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Codswallop said:
Fartgalen said:
What no vid ?
Looks like there will be one given the camera on the windsceen frame
yes Check back in later on...

BeirutTaxi

6,631 posts

214 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Gorgeous looking car and another example of British engineering at it's best.

Like the SLS, taking the roof off has transformed the appeal to a level far beyond everything else.

NotNormal

2,359 posts

214 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Saw one of these spiders in white with all the blue vinyl on the lower parts of the car driving through a village in the Cotswolds 2 weeks ago when I took a weekend break up there. Sounded incredible but for me I think if i'm ever in the position i'll still take a coupe please.

I think the spider would look so much better if they made the buttreses black in colour (roof sections also for when in the up position) as oposed to body colour which would then draw your eye away from their ungainly shape and create a more flatter line of colour down the sides.

dbanes

81 posts

277 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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We were lucky enough to get one for Kop Hill Climb at the end of September, and awesome car close up and sounded great going up the hill.

tommy vercetti

11,489 posts

163 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Garlick said:
Codswallop said:
Fartgalen said:
What no vid ?
Looks like there will be one given the camera on the windsceen frame
yes Check back in later on...
Can't wait, should be a good one, especially after the m135i v rs3

suffolk009

5,387 posts

165 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Track Chassis Mode is too stiff for the road. Shocking!

pistolp

1,719 posts

222 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Horrific colour, why do Mclaren insist on doing that. One question, is it as exploitable as the 458 which is basically like a mid engined M3!

365daytonafan

283 posts

185 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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looks like it will be in dark colours to hide the joins when the roof is up but otherwise very nice. Can't decide which I prefer this or the 458 Spider?

toppstuff

13,698 posts

247 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Chris,

I really enjoy your videos and writing normally, but this seems to be a fairly perfunctory report. It's a Mclaren for gawds sake, it can't be that uninspiring !

No offence, just sayin...

TS

chrisironside

662 posts

162 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Not a big fan of McLaren and the MP4, but think the spider looks like a good blend of engineering and excitement.
Probably more suited to their approach of trying to quantify how good a car is.

jl34

524 posts

237 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Fabulous car. However what crap journalism!!
Read Steve Sutcliffe report in Autocar, he manages to convey the emotions felt when experiencing this car. Chris Harris is not driving a Porsche so is incapable of putting his personal preferences aside for the benefit of us less fortunate readers

treadstone70one

2 posts

162 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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BEAUTIFUL...
but why call it a 'spider/spyder'? Isn't that the Italian term for a rag-top?
...how about a paint job based on their F1 liveries rather than orange which seems to be the colour of every Lamborghini in London at the moment...

Looking forward to buying one of these on eBay in 2036 before the 'yoofs' put them on 22" rims and add rear wings from light aircraft!

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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jl34 said:
Fabulous car. However what crap journalism!!
Read Steve Sutcliffe report in Autocar, he manages to convey the emotions felt when experiencing this car. Chris Harris is not driving a Porsche so is incapable of putting his personal preferences aside for the benefit of us less fortunate readers
Jog on........

f1colin

51 posts

203 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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treadstone70one said:
how about a paint job based on their F1 liveries rather than orange which seems to be the colour of every Lamborghini in London at the moment...
This is the original F1 livery!

Papaya Orange as raced by Bruce McLaren himself (and Gurney, Hulme etc).