RE: Driven: Caterham Ecoboost

RE: Driven: Caterham Ecoboost

Monday 22nd October 2012

Driven: Caterham Ecoboost

An Ecoboost engined Caterham - that sounds like a fun idea! It is, as Ford has proved by building exactly that...



The buzz Ford has created around the one-litre, three-cylinder Ecoboost engine is impressive. It helps that's it very good in the Focus (even better with a 145hp Superchips boost), as does hinting it might form the heart of a limited run of roadgoing versions of the Nurburgring-blasting Formula Ford.

But nothing us got more excited than a promise of a drive in this: a Caterham with the new turbocharged lump fitted in place of the standard Roadsport 1.6-litre Sigma engine (also a Ford unit of course). The widespread availability of a small, powerful, charismatic lump like could be manna to the low-volume sports car maker.

The transplant has an inevitability about it in that the Ecoboost was developed to eventually replace the similarly powered 1.6 Sigma unit across Ford. Which means Caterham would have to do the same thing or look elsewhere.

There wasn't time to make it a pretty installation
There wasn't time to make it a pretty installation
Because they can
This isn't a Caterham project yet - this is Ford showing off the capabilities of its baby. Roger Ratley, petrol calibration engineer and one of the architects of the Nurburgring project, explains why Ford picked the Seven. "It's a light car and it would benefit from a relatively high torque, high-power engine".

In fact, although the engine benefits from the same dry sump as the one in the Formula Ford, power is closer to the Focus application at 120hp and similar to the 125hp as the entry Roadsport Caterham.

However the turbo plumps out the torque from 120lb ft to 147. We're not told how far down the rev range that's developed, but it's way lower than the 5,350rpm of the standard Caterham, which should better help push it out of corners at our playground for the day, the Indy circuit at Brands Hatch.

The Ecoboost engine is actually heavier than the standard Sigma, despite the lopped off cylinder, because it uses an iron block instead of an aluminum one. Not that it makes a huge amount of difference: Ford's car with the SV body weighs 588kg versus 575kg for the Caterham Roadsport SV. If you're wondering what that strange power bulge is on the bonnet, it's there because the Ecoboost unit is taller, even with the dry sump. Rearrange the turbo pipes and it'll fit, Ford says, but that wasn't possible within the time constraints. The Mountune boys that dropped the engine in did say that left-to-right weight distribution was nigh on perfect, however.

Not enough noise from here!
Not enough noise from here!
Enough torque
Right, enough chat. Let's drive the thing. The first tweak a standard fitment would need is something to fix the noise. There's not enough it. That three-cylinder off-beat thrum doesn't come through loud enough and it lacks drama.

That makes the acceleration surge even more bizarre. Here's a Caterham that doesn't require lots of gearbox manipulation to keep it in the power band, simply because the band is so wide. Yes we've driven we've the SP/300.Rthat shares its supercharged two-litre with the new R600, and the development hack for that car too, but down at entry level, this access-all-areas, drama-free muscle is a strange experience.

Frankly, it doesn't seem right. A Caterham should be a constant exploration of power at the top of the rev range - shifting the stubbiest gear lever known to man is one of those great joys in life. Even Ford engineer Ratley wasn't convinced. "I've got an old Caterham - you just want something that revs, not something that wafts along on huge amounts of torque."

Huge power band takes some getting used to
Huge power band takes some getting used to
Thing is, this is just the start. There's plenty you can do with this ultra tuneable engine. According to Ratley a lighter flywheel will take the maximum revs from the mid sixes to past 7,000rpm. It'll even clear 8,000 with stronger valve springs. And of course there's more power to come, given that the application in the Formula Ford made around 220hp, largely achieved by strapping on the bigger turbo from the 1.6 Ecoboost.

Cost is an issue of course. We spoke to Ford UK's parts outlet Power Torque and discovered that a crate 1.0 Ecoboost costs £4,500 (ex vat), versus £1,700 for a 1.6 Sigma. That's a fare whack to pass onto a customer. But smaller turbocharged engines are becoming a fact of life when even small scale manufacturers have to reduce their average CO2 emissions. As it stands, the Ecoboost needs work for satisfy the enthusiast, but relatively small tweaks to improve power, revs and aural drama would make this Ford unit into a winner.


CATERHAM ECOBOOST TEST CAR
Engine:
999cc, 3-cyl turbo
Transmission: 5-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 120
Torque (lb ft): 147
0-62mph: N/A
Top speed: N/A
Weight: 588kg
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
Price: N/A

 

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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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No comment on throttle response and adjustability? That's my biggest concern with a turbocharged (and presumably DBW) engine in a Caterham.

kambites

67,568 posts

221 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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So does it do anything better than the Sigma in this application? It sounds like the answer is "no".

Might make more sense with the wick turned up a bit, but would that just make it feel laggy?

cure

231 posts

145 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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You get the feeling they're thinking in the right direction with these projects. The fact the Ford engineer didn't put off some speech about the great low down torque, but says and admits it doesn't really fit the car, is good to read. I'm looking forward to seeing what they make of it when they reach 8000 rpm.

Slightly disappointed that it is a heavier unit however. I wonder what the reason behind using an iron block is.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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cure said:
Slightly disappointed that it is a heavier unit however. I wonder what the reason behind using an iron block is.
Stronger block so they can pump up the boost. If they can get a bit more character it should be a pretty good engine, as long as the response is crisp enough of course. biggrin

ohtari

805 posts

144 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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cure said:
You get the feeling they're thinking in the right direction with these projects. The fact the Ford engineer didn't put off some speech about the great low down torque, but says and admits it doesn't really fit the car, is good to read. I'm looking forward to seeing what they make of it when they reach 8000 rpm.

Slightly disappointed that it is a heavier unit however. I wonder what the reason behind using an iron block is.
The three cylinder isn't balanced like a 4 cylinder, so longevity of the block would've been a concern. The sigma does have cast cylinder liners remember. It is perhaps odd that a 15ish year old engine design is still so capable for these applications, but I guess none of the big companies are investing in NA any more.

PHMatt

608 posts

148 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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kambites said:
So does it do anything better than the Sigma in this application? It sounds like the answer is "no".

Might make more sense with the wick turned up a bit, but would that just make it feel laggy?
It has more torque which helps you get going sooner instead of having to drive around at 7k rpms all the time.

It will cost less to run being smaller and more economical

It has potential to be much more powerful


But I think the main goal here is not to show us that Caterhams will in the future be 1.0 3pots rather Ford telling is not to be scared of this engine.

I'm not old but I'm old school, I'd rather have my 3.0 N/A than a 1.6 turbo with the same power. I just prefer the way an N/A develops it.
But if some one showed me one that developed the power in a more NA like manner and as a bonus, did twice the MPG and cost half as much to tax i'd change up!

kambites

67,568 posts

221 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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PHMatt said:
But if some one showed me one that developed the power in a more NA like manner and as a bonus, did twice the MPG and cost half as much to tax i'd change up!
That's called a supercharger isn't it? hehe

James1972

98 posts

145 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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"a crate 1.0 Ecoboost costs £4,500 (ex vat), versus £1,700 for a 1.6 Sigma. " redcard
Fot that price differential it needs to be the full fat 220 BHP !

ohtari

805 posts

144 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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PHMatt said:
It has more torque which helps you get going sooner instead of having to drive around at 7k rpms all the time.
= It's a caterham, that's how you're meant to drive.
It will cost less to run being smaller and more economical
= Caterham, economy. Really???
It has potential to be much more powerful
= True, but if there's 2k of turbo lag to get there, count me out.

But I think the main goal here is not to show us that Caterhams will in the future be 1.0 3pots rather Ford telling is not to be scared of this engine.

I'm not old but I'm old school, I'd rather have my 3.0 N/A than a 1.6 turbo with the same power. I just prefer the way an N/A develops it.
But if some one showed me one that developed the power in a more NA like manner and as a bonus, did twice the MPG and cost half as much to tax i'd change up!
As above, super charge. (or maybe twin charge?)

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

265 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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cure said:
I wonder what the reason behind using an iron block is.
According to an IMechE lecture I went to a few weeks ago it's for reduced bore spacing (weight and packaging advantage), faster warm up and increased stiffness (for NVH). Plus cast iron is cheap.

PHMatt said:
rpms
:sigh:

Revolutions per minutes?

ohtari

805 posts

144 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Captain Muppet said:
cure said:
I wonder what the reason behind using an iron block is.
According to an IMechE lecture I went to a few weeks ago it's for reduced bore spacing (weight and packaging advantage), faster warm up and increased stiffness (for NVH). Plus cast iron is cheap.
Well that's me told hehe

But when you say increased warm up, is that of the oil or coolant? Because an alloy block should be more efficient at heat transfer. Are they wanting the oil to warm up quickly to save the turbo?

LuS1fer

41,135 posts

245 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Can't say I welcome the £3k premium over a 1.6 which must surely impact on the retail price of normal Fords as well? I had a Focus 1.6 hire car and it did the job, can't say as I was wishing for a 3 pot turbo instead...

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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ohtari said:
Captain Muppet said:
cure said:
I wonder what the reason behind using an iron block is.
According to an IMechE lecture I went to a few weeks ago it's for reduced bore spacing (weight and packaging advantage), faster warm up and increased stiffness (for NVH). Plus cast iron is cheap.
Well that's me told hehe

But when you say increased warm up, is that of the oil or coolant? Because an alloy block should be more efficient at heat transfer. Are they wanting the oil to warm up quickly to save the turbo?
That would be a safe assumption - decreased warmup times for either give good results - one means you can heat the cabin faster, the other gives greater engine protection.

GroundEffect

13,836 posts

156 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Captain Muppet said:
cure said:
I wonder what the reason behind using an iron block is.
According to an IMechE lecture I went to a few weeks ago it's for reduced bore spacing (weight and packaging advantage), faster warm up and increased stiffness (for NVH). Plus cast iron is cheap.
yes


Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

265 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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ohtari said:
Captain Muppet said:
cure said:
I wonder what the reason behind using an iron block is.
According to an IMechE lecture I went to a few weeks ago it's for reduced bore spacing (weight and packaging advantage), faster warm up and increased stiffness (for NVH). Plus cast iron is cheap.
Well that's me told hehe

But when you say increased warm up, is that of the oil or coolant? Because an alloy block should be more efficient at heat transfer. Are they wanting the oil to warm up quickly to save the turbo?
Apparently because cast iron doesn't conduct heat as well as aluminium it ends up rejecting more heat to the coolant instead of the environment, reducing warm up time on the NEDC cycle. I didn't get to see the data, just the lecture. Also I was distracted because my beard was rubbish compared to all the other beards in the room.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

265 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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LuS1fer said:
Can't say I welcome the £3k premium over a 1.6 which must surely impact on the retail price of normal Fords as well? I had a Focus 1.6 hire car and it did the job, can't say as I was wishing for a 3 pot turbo instead...
Don't confuse the retail price of crate engines and the BOM cost to Ford of making the engines...

Flawless Victory

441 posts

165 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Someone needs to proof read the article.

Just sayin'.

GroundEffect

13,836 posts

156 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Captain Muppet said:
ohtari said:
Captain Muppet said:
cure said:
I wonder what the reason behind using an iron block is.
According to an IMechE lecture I went to a few weeks ago it's for reduced bore spacing (weight and packaging advantage), faster warm up and increased stiffness (for NVH). Plus cast iron is cheap.
Well that's me told hehe

But when you say increased warm up, is that of the oil or coolant? Because an alloy block should be more efficient at heat transfer. Are they wanting the oil to warm up quickly to save the turbo?
Apparently because cast iron doesn't conduct heat as well as aluminium it ends up rejecting more heat to the coolant instead of the environment, reducing warm up time on the NEDC cycle. I didn't get to see the data, just the lecture. Also I was distracted because my beard was rubbish compared to all the other beards in the room.
But better heat conductivity would HELP heat rejection to coolant also. It still needs to go through to the water jacket. If anything, most of the heat is rejected by the head.


clonmult

10,529 posts

209 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Captain Muppet said:
PHMatt said:
rpms
:sigh:

Revolutions per minutes?
I've seen this a few times of late. Where the frack has it come from?

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

265 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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GroundEffect said:
Captain Muppet said:
ohtari said:
Captain Muppet said:
cure said:
I wonder what the reason behind using an iron block is.
According to an IMechE lecture I went to a few weeks ago it's for reduced bore spacing (weight and packaging advantage), faster warm up and increased stiffness (for NVH). Plus cast iron is cheap.
Well that's me told hehe

But when you say increased warm up, is that of the oil or coolant? Because an alloy block should be more efficient at heat transfer. Are they wanting the oil to warm up quickly to save the turbo?
Apparently because cast iron doesn't conduct heat as well as aluminium it ends up rejecting more heat to the coolant instead of the environment, reducing warm up time on the NEDC cycle. I didn't get to see the data, just the lecture. Also I was distracted because my beard was rubbish compared to all the other beards in the room.
But better heat conductivity would HELP heat rejection to coolant also. It still needs to go through to the water jacket. If anything, most of the heat is rejected by the head.
Like I said, I didn't see the data, just the lecture.

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