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Thursday 1st November 2012

A45 AMG (not) driven

Yes, a ride in the passenger seat but Harris gets some real insight into AMG's A-Class



Curiosity undermines even the most determined attempts to take the moral high ground in this shady car business. There I am openly laughing at people sitting in the passenger seats of soon to be released cars and, sure enough, I immediately do just that in the Porsche 918 and now the 2013 Mercedes A45 AMG.

Aesthetically the A45 won't differ from A250 Sport
Aesthetically the A45 won't differ from A250 Sport
Why? Because this past month has been completely hot hatch dominated for me (Megane, Focus and Astra coming soon), and like any bloke in the grip of his current fad, I currently have a limitless appetite for anything related to the subject. We were at Hockenheim to drive the SLS GT (video to follow in coming weeks) and Tobias Moers, head of product development at AMG, was giving a few taxi rides in a disguised test car. It seemed rude not to jump in try it given recent exposure to the M135i and RS3.

First, the bad news. The A45's four-wheel drive system is by Haldex. Clearly Moers knows that anyone who enjoys driving sees this as a mechanical cold-flannel equivalent to picturing one's grandmother during the vinegar stroke, so he pins the A45 around the circuit and every time he lifts the throttle mid-corner, the front axle pulls into the turn, and the rear mobilises itself very nicely.

Me, grinning: "That doesn't feel like the Haldex systems I'm used to."

The Elk test era is a long way behind
The Elk test era is a long way behind
Him, grinning: "We have made many changes so the car has balance. It has to be fun and I have to be able to play with the car's angle on the track or it's no good."

Now I have to take him at his word on this. Tobias got gratifyingly animated about the evils of very fast 4WD cars that just understeer everywhere and said AMG was not interested in doing the same thing. In fairness to AMG, it is not known for front tyre wear. All I can say for now is he lifted, the nose moved the right way and the tail moved the right way. Not concrete evidence of greatness, but good news at this stage.

The car is very fast, the double-clutch gearchange is crisp, even though there does seem to be quite a big gap between third and fourth gears. Handling is flat and grippy. Other than that I can't tell you any more - but Moers confirms that the steering is identical to that of an A250 Sport, which I thought was pretty good.

Harris rides shotgun in A45 test mule
Harris rides shotgun in A45 test mule
With 60 per cent of the mass up front, a base package designed to be front-wheel drive and a four-cylinder engine, this is completely new territory for AMG.

It's an interesting engineering exercise because AMG has separately developed the complete powertrain, a large task these days, and it looks like other Mercedes products might well benefit from this in the future. The dual-clutch gearbox is taken from the A-Class but completely re-engineered to deal with the extra torque. The motor is a 2.0-litre turbocharged four-cylinder that is completely new, even down to the sand-cast block. There are no confirmed figures right now, but talk is of 350hp and 332lb ft when the car goes on sale next summer. Yes, AMG has been looking rather closely at the Audi RS3.

Out on the road, the ride is firm, but not RS3 harsh, although Moers admits the car is probably firmer at very low-speed than he'd personally like, AMG's research suggests the target customer will live with that for the alert feeling it brings, conclusively proving that most people who agree to participate in surveys are berks. As is the way with these new turbo motors, it pulls from very low revs with little fuss and the shove is considerable. Exhaust noise is prominent, and on upshifts the fake ignition cut gives a massive BANG. This will almost certainly be calmed for production.

Haldex 4WD and a four-cylinder turbo? Hm...
Haldex 4WD and a four-cylinder turbo? Hm...
It's hard to judge the car as an object because it isn't finished yet. But I'd make two observations at this point. The first is that BMW has effectively blown this new market for very fast hatchbacks very wide open by pricing the M135i the way it has, so the A45 probably can't follow previous AMG models and sit well above the equivalent Audis and Bimmers because it just won't sell in the required volumes - partly due to the second thought. Styling.

There will be no body-in-white alterations for the A45 AMG, so it won't look that much tougher than an A250 Sport. Some people will love the subtlety, but as Audi has proved with the RS3, looks can carry you a long way in the market place, even if you drive with all the finesse of a dump-truck. Spending so much on the new powertrain and then not giving the A45 some funky new clothes might prove to be a costly mistake.

And so the German domination continues. The French used to own the fast-hatch territory, but BMW, Audi and now Mercedes have taken it, adjusted it to their tastes and are busy changing our perceptions of the way a compact car can perform.

Chris Harris
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c_seven

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AMG's are mostly about the noise and quite a lot about there ability to go everywhere side-ways, it sounds as if this is going to struggle with both of those. Fine if you have a brilliant chassis to work with, but not sure if this is going to be the case. Can't wait for the proper road test.

mat205125

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Be interesting to see how much of a drivers tool the car ends up being.

Massive shame that there won't be some wide arches or unique visual parts to mark the car out from it's overdressed diesel cousins .... Maybe there'll be a Black Edition in time.

I know that the numerals on the boot lids haven't related to the cc's under the bonnet for many years, but using "45" for this car is taking the p!ss a little too much in my opinion.

DonkeyApple

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Strangely appealing that for once a company isn't pointlessly blinging up a car just because it's faster than the other models. Excessive and pointless plastic tat stuck all over the outside of cars is somewhat tiresome these days.

I'm sure I'm in the minority or companies wouldn't all have a Mansory Dept.

chiefski26

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If it beats the m135 it should sell like hotcakes assuming a approx £30k price.
ps why were you not allowed to drive the a45 ?

Edited by chiefski26 on Thursday 1st November 08:27

kambites

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It'll be fascinating to see how this does drive.
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mnkiboy

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I'm not sure why but i've got an overwhelming desire to own one of these cars. Maybe because the dimensions and styling remind me of my much missed Leon Cupra.

I'd love to think it was available for £30K, but £35K seems more likely to me.

kambites

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Even 35k sounds optimistic to me.

Bargenosenti

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There was one parked in Chesterfield town centre this last weekend (not AMG obviously)

It looked well but in this sector anything north of 30k is expecting a lot for any kind of volume. The want factor of these is eroded by seeing so many lukewarm diesels moping around, PHer's excluded

DonkeyApple

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kambites said:
Even 35k sounds optimistic to me.
I think the standard A250 starts at just under £30k so a small run version with a bespoke AWD drive train and boosted engine and appropriate running gear for just a few K more? My guess is by the time you have sensible options added its a £50k car.

tinkertaylor

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Wasn't there an AMG version of the original A Class also? Hopefully this one will be more interesting. Certainly looks it smile

kambites

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tinkertaylor said:
Wasn't there an AMG version of the original A Class also? Hopefully this one will be more interesting. Certainly looks it smile
Yes but they only built two of them, as far as I know. They did have two engines each, though. smile

Prawnboy

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strange, but i find this AMG dull.
still if they are doing the whole Merc range maybe an AMG sprinter is up soon.

GroundEffect

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I love it...just a pity it's going to have a 4-pot turbo soundtrack and not a thunderous V8 that AMG made their name with.

kambites

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GroundEffect said:
I love it...just a pity it's going to have a 4-pot turbo soundtrack and not a thunderous V8 that AMG made their name with.
They could always borrow one of BMW's "sound generators"; then they could make it sound like whatever you want.

LuS1fer

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That is even uglier than the BMW 1 Series - well done Mercedes.

Wouldn't touch one with a bargepole.

kambites

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LuS1fer said:
That is even uglier than the BMW 1 Series...
Oh come on, it's no looker but it's not that bad!

thirsty

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No thanks.

LuS1fer

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kambites said:
LuS1fer said:
That is even uglier than the BMW 1 Series...
Oh come on, it's no looker but it's not that bad!
When I first saw the TV ad, i thought it was a Hyundai so yes, it is.

kambites

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LuS1fer said:
kambites said:
LuS1fer said:
That is even uglier than the BMW 1 Series...
Oh come on, it's no looker but it's not that bad!
When I first saw the TV ad, i thought it was a Hyundai so yes, it is.
You really think The 1-series looks better than anything Hyundai currently produce?

lewisf182

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this is definately going to be a £45k+ car, no doubt. The M135i is an absolute performance bargain IMHO. Also having seen one of these new A class's they are absolutely huge!
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