RE: Ferrari says: what crisis?

RE: Ferrari says: what crisis?

Friday 9th November 2012

Ferrari says: what crisis?

Industry winners and losers count costs, Ferrari on top thanks to 458s and ... hairdryers?



The sun might not be shining, economically speaking, but Ferrari is still making hay with 'record' sales of 5,267 cars so far this year.

The UK is just one market that has seen growth for Maranello, which is reporting that sales here are up 37 per cent to 504 cars in the first nine months. Its biggest market, the US, is doing well with sales up 37 per cent, with Germany, China and Japan also thriving.

The more prosaic end of the luxury market is having a strong year too, with Mercedes predicting it's on course for record profits in 2012, while Audi sales are up a whopping 13 per cent to 1.1 million in the first nine months. Beating them both on sales is BMW, which reckons it can beat last year's pre-tax profit figures of $7.4 billion.

'Ferrari-engined' hairdryers the secret to profitability
'Ferrari-engined' hairdryers the secret to profitability
The banana skin for everyone is mainland Europe, particularly southern Europe. Figures we've seen for the first eight months show serious slippage for all the mainstream makers. Fallers include Renault down 20 per cent, Fiat down 18 per cent, Vauxhall/Opel down 15 per cent, Ford down 19 per cent and Peugeot down 14 per cent. No wonder the talk is of factory closures and aggressive discounting.

Some luxury brands are taking a tumble across Europe too, including Aston Martin, which is down 25 per cent and Lotus, down 52 per cent. Even Rolls Royce is having trouble, with sales running 17 per cent below last year. Ferrari's overall sales in Europe are flat, but that is pretty good considering the whole market is down seven percent.

The firm's splits are interesting - top seller in Europe is the 458 with 1,200 sold, followed by the California at 467 and the FF at 383. That last figure is more than Lamborghini sold in total across the region over the same period.

Ferrari said its increased profits were in part due to brand activity, which means online sales and licencing (including Ferrari stores). One licencing partnership it said is doing particularly well is Puma, which sells a range of Ferrari branded footwear and clothing with names like Ferrari Drift Cat IV Carbon Shoes.

If you want to delve further into the murky world of Ferrari licencing then check out Babyliss hairdryers with their "Ferrari-designed engines" (we're not kidding).

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GroundEffect

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13,835 posts

156 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Is increasing sales ultimately a GOOD thing for the brand? Ferraris used to be a very uncommon sight...but 1200 458s?


Madmatt74

273 posts

157 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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With that many cars being produced, the values will drop below the £95 of the hairdryer! biggrin

Dblue

3,252 posts

200 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Thats 1200 458s Worldwide.
They know they can't kill the golden goose I think and the addition of a 4th model range is likely the reason for the increase.
Remember they are selling 458s at 50-70% more than they sold 430s for, so bound to be profitable.

Slightly worrying for Aston those figures and Lamborghini but there's new product on the way for them soon.

MIP1983

210 posts

205 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Does this mean anything in terms of the current economic climate? The rich still getting richer I guess.

crofty1984

15,848 posts

204 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Glad that Ferrari are doing well. Shame about all the licensing bks but I guess it's all the pencil cases and hairdryers, board games etc. that fixes "Ferrari" in the minds of kids today, who may grow up to buy one of the cars tomorrow.

I can see the Logic in what Lotus were trying to do, not that I was a massive fan of it.

OdramaSwimLaden

1,971 posts

169 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Dblue said:
Remember they are selling 458s at 50-70% more than they sold 430s for, so bound to be profitable.
Yer but you get the warranty and servicing "free"....!

Krikkit

26,515 posts

181 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Dblue said:
Slightly worrying for Aston those figures and Lamborghini but there's new product on the way for them soon.
That's a Europe-only figure though, they could be doing very well in China and the US.

900T-R

20,404 posts

257 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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The local hifi shop now offers a range of Ferrari branded headphones to compete with Beats by Dr Dre et al...


balls-out

3,608 posts

231 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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BBC News said:
Senior executives in the UK's biggest companies have seen their average earnings go up by more than a quarter in the past year.
no shortage of money for those at the top....

365daytonafan

283 posts

185 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Any idea how many Mclaren 12C's were sold in the same period?

Dblue

3,252 posts

200 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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365daytonafan said:
Any idea how many Mclaren 12C's were sold in the same period?
I think they are north of 2000 cars now.

Hellbound

2,500 posts

176 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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I'd be worried if Ferrari weren't taking advantage of merchandising.

I personally haven't bought anything that's been branded with a Ferrari logo, but that hasn't in any way cheapened the marque for me. When I saw my first 458 Spider last week, I didn't suddenly associate the car with headphones or a hair dryer. It's nonsense to think people do that and aren't able to distinguish between the cars and the branding.

I also think Aston Martin could do with associating itself with other like minded brands. They've got a ready made selection through the James Bond franchise, coupled with some very tasteful British clothing brands. Without some properly new metal, they're allowing themselves to turn a little stale at the moment.

Varn

205 posts

201 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Lotus, down 52 per cent...ouch!

NotNormal

2,359 posts

214 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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No real surprise that Lotus are down 52% what with their uncanny ability to push customer confidence of the brand lower by each passing week. The sooner they decide what the hell they want to do the better for all...

Agrispeed

988 posts

159 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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900T-R said:
The local hifi shop now offers a range of Ferrari branded headphones to compete with Beats by Dr Dre et al...
Yes, I saw someone with those on - from the sound they were making they are both loud and poor quality - and expensive eek

I thought the shield was only on the racing pedigree models - whos done le mans wearing a pair then hehe

garypotter

1,499 posts

150 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Do AMG and Merc also offer a high end bespoke service to boat builders ie interiors etc ?? i may be wrong, makes good business sense for ferrari with all those brown envelopes they supply to the F1 circus.......

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Just bought 3 new hairdryers for the salon this morning, top of the rangei industry standard.

Stills lot cheaper than those Ferrari ones! hehe

900T-R

20,404 posts

257 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Hellbound said:
I'd be worried if Ferrari weren't taking advantage of merchandising.

I personally haven't bought anything that's been branded with a Ferrari logo, but that hasn't in any way cheapened the marque for me. When I saw my first 458 Spider last week, I didn't suddenly associate the car with headphones or a hair dryer. It's nonsense to think people do that and aren't able to distinguish between the cars and the branding.

I also think Aston Martin could do with associating itself with other like minded brands. They've got a ready made selection through the James Bond franchise, coupled with some very tasteful British clothing brands. Without some properly new metal, they're allowing themselves to turn a little stale at the moment.
That's the whole point. If I were an exclusive, high profile brand, I would want to associate with bespoke tailors or a high end hifi manufacturer of a puveyor of high quality wines or fine leatherwares, not trying to maximise mechandise profits from high street tat.

I do believe the endless stream of downmarket tat carrying the Ferrari name, rather than the fact that they license merchandising activities in se, does tarnish the brand somewhat.

The Horse Man

259 posts

171 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Dblue said:
I think they are north of 2000 cars now.
Really? That's pretty excellent right?

suffolk009

5,373 posts

165 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Is that Ferrari very big, or is Luca very small? He looks teeny-tiny next to it.