RE: PH Fleet: Renaultsport Megane 265 Cup

RE: PH Fleet: Renaultsport Megane 265 Cup

Tuesday 11th December 2012

PH Fleet: Renaultsport Megane 265 Cup

Say hello to the latest addition to the PH fleet



PH is safe territory to admit to lost hours crunching the numbers on specsheets. Sure, there's a proviso here that no money has changed hands for this loan. But we got to choose our spec and believe me when I say it no less time was spent evaluating the worth of options and final build.

Line up rivals, the PH benchmark is here
Line up rivals, the PH benchmark is here
The fact I actually chose this months back and had to go back through my emails to remind myself of what we were getting added a second hit of excitement. Christ, what if I hadn't specced the Cup pack? I had. Had I remembered to choose the stealthy black 18s over the blingy, red-rimmed 19s? Thankfully yes. And what about Recaros? I'll be kicking myself if I didn't choose the Recaros... Phew, yes.

Let's rewind a little though. The basics are obvious enough - a Capsicum Red Renaultsport Megane 265 Cup. An iconic hot hatch and, arguably, one of the most PH-worthy front-wheel drive cars currently on sale. A benchmark by which anything in the sub-£30K price bracket should be judged, wherever its engine is, whichever wheels are driven and whatever badge it has. Everything from Caterhams to Toyobarus and BMW M135is - meet the everyday friendly performance car you have to beat. It's going to be an interesting year...

Black 18s will hopefully take edge off ride
Black 18s will hopefully take edge off ride
But back to that spec. PHers are by nature fastidious number crunchers. So indulge me here.

As ever you start with the broad strokes, before getting down to detail. Fundamentals? Well, it was going to have to have a Cup chassis with the limited-slip diff and more hardcore suspension settings. But full-fat, with the Cup pack as an additional extra? Or more purist, cheaper Cup spec, which gets it as standard but strips out a lot of the additional garnish? Six months in a 197 Cup in a previous life taught me all I needed to know about the brilliance and lack of compromise in Renaultsports Cup chassis. So 18-inch wheels, not the blingy and rather ugly 19-inch Speedlines to take the edge off a bit were another basic.

Predicting that pricing is going to be a hot topic in all comparisons we make with this car and in keeping with a more PHey no-nonsense spirit I opted for Cup spec, £1,200 cheaper than the full fat with an additional £1,350 'credit' in the shape of the cost of adding the Cup pack to a full fat. Employing man maths that makes the Cup £2,550 'cheaper' than a comparable full fat.

Recaros were an absolute no brainer
Recaros were an absolute no brainer
What do you lose? Well, to my mind nothing you can't live without. No 'Electrochrome' rear view mirror, no leather, no power adjustment for the driver's seat, no rear seat armrest and a basic key card rather than the handsfree jobby on the full-fat. Oh, and air-con rather than climate. Fine by me. Losing the option to add all round parking sensors may be a worry, given experience shows visibility from the Megane coupe is worse even than the Evoque we had previously. At least you get basic rear bleepers as standard.

And what have I spent that credit note on? Well, Recaros were a £1,300 indulgence but, given my experience of the Clio 197, an essential tick. We'll see if £350 for the Renaultsport Monitor onboard telemetry is anything more than a gimmick but for dark, leafy lanes bi-xenons are a no-brainer with the Arkamys stereo to take the edge off commuting. No nav with the Monitor though. Dog-eared atlas it is then.

OK, it's not quite stealth but it's purist spec
OK, it's not quite stealth but it's purist spec
So I've added the best part of three grand to the price and the grand total is £28,115. Not shy. But a comparably specced full fat with Cup pack, Recaros, Monitor, xenons and the rest would be over £30K. With a few extra toys, admittedly. But I like to think we've gone for a reasonably purist spec and the clean, uncluttered look to the interior would seem to back that up.

Now we've got the number crunching out of the way we should see about driving it. Ah yes, about that. Those up to speed with my situation will have spotted a flaw in this plan. So new boy Alex is going to be putting the bulk of the time in at the wheel. I say the bulk. I have plans in this regard...


FACT SHEET
Car:
Renaultsport Megane 265 Cup
Run by: Alex (and Dan when circumstances allow)
On fleet since: December 2012
Mileage: 595
List price new: £28,115 (Basic list of £24,840 plus £350 for Renaultsport Monitor, £1,300 for Recaro seat upgrade, £750 for bi-xenon lights, £250 for hands free card with push-button start, £75 for spare wheel, £250 for tyre pressure monitor, £300 for Arkamys Bluetooth/USB ICE system)
Last month at a glance: Just delivered!

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Discussion

framerateuk

Original Poster:

2,730 posts

184 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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Excellent choice of spec smile

I went for the Full Fat + Cup on mine a few years ago and I love it. Most important bits to spec are the Xenons and the R.S Monitor. Without the monitor you don't get to play with the throttle maps, which if you plan on getting the car onto a track, make it a lot more fun!

TheRoadWarrior

1,241 posts

178 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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Exactly how I'd spec mine.

Tempted by these, but really want to scratch the R26.R itch. Just wish they'd drop in price a little smile

ED209

5,745 posts

244 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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Surely ther emust be 3-4k discount that could be knocked off list price?

kambites

67,543 posts

221 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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Probably the most interesting of the mainstream hot hatches available at the moment, and a nice spec, but I can't help but feel that the M135i makes the market position of the more conventional hot hatches a bit awkward.

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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kambites said:
Probably the most interesting of the mainstream hot hatches available at the moment, and a nice spec, but I can't help but feel that the M135i makes the market position of the more conventional hot hatches a bit awkward.
Guess what we'll be exploring in due course... wink

Dan

ant leigh

714 posts

143 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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ED209 said:
Surely ther emust be 3-4k discount that could be knocked off list price?
For 30k at list then yes 4k for sure.
I suspect that PH took a greater discount than that, on condition they don't say how much smile

But a great choice for the PH fleet thumbup

X5TUU

11,937 posts

187 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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Excellent choice and awesome colour

Lets just hope newby Alex doesn't start comparing this to a pickup or other similarly unsuitable vehicle

SarGara

365 posts

176 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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Great car (I'm bias tho) and great colour choice! You dont see many of them in Red smile

Tom275

24 posts

166 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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Crazy, the headlight upgrade cost as much as my car...

Agoogy

7,274 posts

248 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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black wheels hurl

mattyc69

330 posts

152 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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Love these just cant get over how ste the interior finish is. Would it really take a lot more just to make the inside feel a little bit more special!

kambites

67,543 posts

221 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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mattyc69 said:
Would it really take a lot more just to make the inside feel a little bit more special!
I think the simple answer to that is "yes", to be honest. "Premium feeling" interiors are both expensive and surprisingly heavy.

ant leigh

714 posts

143 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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Dan Trent said:
kambites said:
Probably the most interesting of the mainstream hot hatches available at the moment, and a nice spec, but I can't help but feel that the M135i makes the market position of the more conventional hot hatches a bit awkward.
Guess what we'll be exploring in due course... wink

Dan
It will certainly be very interesting.
On a like for like basis with the Megane I suspect there will be a real price difference of around 4 - 5k
Handling will need to be sharp though. I haven't driven the latest M135i but the previous generation 135i was faster off the line but IMO off the Megane pace in the corners and especially in the wet.
The mid range acceleration for the 135i though was very impressive....

SpudLink

5,743 posts

192 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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Agoogy said:
black wheels hurl
Really? I rather like them.

kambites

67,543 posts

221 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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SpudLink said:
Agoogy said:
black wheels hurl
Really? I rather like them.
Almost anything is better than silver. vomit

loose cannon

6,029 posts

241 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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monitor is great for telling when the engine oil is up to temp
set the throttle map on progressive for road use on sport mode,
smile

aussieinlondon

660 posts

219 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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I like and the red/black combo looks spot on wink

CarlT

3,423 posts

247 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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ant leigh said:
For 30k at list then yes 4k for sure.
I suspect that PH took a greater discount than that, on condition they don't say how much smile

But a great choice for the PH fleet thumbup
Dan makes it clear in the article that no money changed hands!

framerateuk

Original Poster:

2,730 posts

184 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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loose cannon said:
monitor is great for telling when the engine oil is up to temp
set the throttle map on progressive for road use on sport mode,
smile
I find linear to be the better option. Not as jumpy as sport, but easier to heel and toe than progressive since you don't have to blip the throttle as far.

CarlT

3,423 posts

247 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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Nice spec and colour choice. I would have gone for the 19s with the Bridgestone tyres myself. smile