RE: Spotted: Lancia Stratos Prototype

RE: Spotted: Lancia Stratos Prototype

Thursday 20th December 2012

Spotted: Lancia Stratos Prototype

This stunning Stratos is a bit pricey, but you won't find another like it.



Classic cars, and their values, are all about provenance. Who's owned the car, where it's been driven and whether it's still original all become imperative when contemplating a classic.

A unique, one-off Stratos? Yes please!
A unique, one-off Stratos? Yes please!
With that in mind, how about this for a car ofhistorical significance? The very first LanciaStratos produced, chassis number 003, used by Lancia as a dealer demonstrator to gauge reception on the project.

It is currently for sale at Joe Macari's and, with the Stratos being a little more special than a regular Spotted, PH got on the phone to secure some more details.

This particular Stratos is a pre-production car, and was built in 1973. It was used by Lancia during that year as a prototype and shown to dealers with the intention of building 500 for world rally homologation. The reception given to the Stratos, as perhaps could be expected, was universally positive, and road car production began in 1974. On the world's rally stages, the Stratos dominated; its compact dimensions and mid-engined layout ensured great agility and it won Lancia three consecutive world championship titles between 1974 and 1976.

Deeper grille is one of several detail changes
Deeper grille is one of several detail changes
The demands of rallying meant that the production Stratos differed fractionally to this prototype. According to Macari's, this car has a slightly deeper front grille which was later made shallower, presumably to avoid damage from errant rocks on special stages. Small idiosyncrasies and detail changes like this are, of course, all part of the development process, but they seem all the more exciting on such an iconic car.

Mechanically, the pre-production Stratos is identical to the customer cars. So the engine is a 2.4-litre V6 from the Ferrari Dino mounted in the middle. Peak power of 190hp is produced at 7,000rpm, whilst three Weber carburettors provide fuel until a cut-out at 7,800rpm.

The gearbox is a five-speed manual, but with some recent modification from Macari's. As a pre-production car, this Stratos was as much about how it looked as how it drove. The original 'box was simply enough to get it about and was fairly obstinate in the best Italian tradition. The linkage has been updated to make it 'usable', which is helpful.

Dino-sourced 2.4-litre V6 gave 190hp
Dino-sourced 2.4-litre V6 gave 190hp
So what does such a stunning piece of automotive history cost? Macari's has it listed at £325,000, which is undoubtedly a huge sum of money. However, with the values of the Stratos' Dino sister-car climbing, Macari's is confident every Stratos is an appreciating asset. Yes, cars that will supposedly rise in value have been flavour of the week at PH these past few days, but can you ever imagine a pre-production Stratos depreciating?

As a final Lancia-related aside, low-mileage and good condition Delta Integrales, Beta Monte Carlos and Aurelias are much in demand. As an indicator of their spiralling values, Macari's sold a 16v Delta Integrale in 2010 that had covered just 100km, and it fetched £45,000. Today, you'll need at least that amount for an Evo 2 with 56,000 kilometres.


Lancia Stratos
Engine
: 2419cc V6
Transmission: Five-speed manual, RWD
Power (hp): 190@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft):166@4,000rpm
MPG:N/A
CO2:Err...
First Registered: 1973
Recorded mileage: Not many!
Price new:N/A
Yours for: £325,000


See the original advert here. View pictures on the Joe Macari website.

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0llie

Original Poster:

3,007 posts

196 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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A Stradale version was sold at the RM Auction on 31st October... IIRC, it went for around £240k, which I thought was a lot!

Edited by 0llie on Thursday 20th December 12:30

pixelpimp

674 posts

197 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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I thought this was the actual prototype:

threespires

4,289 posts

211 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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I'm told that of the 2 prototypes built at least 8 survive.

wst

3,494 posts

161 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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A Land Rover has straighter shutlines!

mat205125

17,790 posts

213 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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threespires said:
I'm told that of the 2 prototypes built at least 8 survive.
rofl

Have to admit I did a double take there

scotty_917

1,034 posts

222 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Gorgeous...loved them ever since playing Top Trumps as a kid in the 70's... thumbup

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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blimey, who'd have thought a Stratos would ever be the same price as a Daytona?

jbforce10

509 posts

175 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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If you've kept an eye on the prices for Integrales for the past few years you'd know that the last paragraph was utter nonsense.

The majority of Integrales currently on sale on the PH classifieds have all been up for sale for well over a year at hugely inflated prices by a handful of importers (with the exception of Walkers which are priced for quality).

Only particularly limited edition Evo2 models tend to sell for over £30k (typically Final Edition, Dealer Edition and Blue Lagos).

A good example private sale Evo2 would change hands for closer to £20k, not £45k.

crostonian

2,427 posts

172 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Surprised that Cris Hrabalek the designer dude who collects Stratos and now Bugatti EB110s hasn't put his paw up for this.

marcosgt

11,018 posts

176 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Pothole said:
blimey, who'd have thought a Stratos would ever be the same price as a Daytona?
Back in about 1974, I tried to persuade my dad to buy a Stratos for about the price of a new Cortina.

He wouldn't, but what a great purchase that would have been! biggrin

M.

rutthenut

202 posts

263 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Nice car (spoken as a Stratos fan and replica owner). Price doesn't surprise me at all either. So many turned in Group 4 rally cars since they became eligible, the Stradale models ever more rare.

Did expect the different front grille design if a 'prototype' but if chassis number 003 (and if no others with that same number), it matters not.

Comment about Integrales stikes true. I'd love to have another one, but the price is just going up and up these days. Wish I'd kept mine now :-(

ChrisJ.

563 posts

240 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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pixelpimp said:
I thought this was the actual prototype:
The car in your photograph (chassis 1240) is the first prototype. It shares nothing with the homologation 490+ run of production cars.

The car featured here is a pre production car. It's very close to a production Stratos, but has some unique features. No external targa catches, being one obvious one.

wst said:
A Land Rover has straighter shutlines!
The reason the panel gaps look bad is because the RH door isn't shut, and the front panel isn't fastened down. Well built replicas and well restored originals do tend to be better for panel fit.

Greg348

37 posts

162 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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You could have one of these:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...

Although you will need to have the wheels refurbed... rolleyes

wst

3,494 posts

161 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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ChrisJ. said:
The reason the panel gaps look bad is because the RH door isn't shut, and the front panel isn't fastened down. Well built replicas and well restored originals do tend to be better for panel fit.
How about the popup headlights? wink

ChrisJ.

563 posts

240 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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I was only asking £19.750 for my Prototype rep.:

ChrisJ.

563 posts

240 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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wst said:
ow about the popup headlights? wink
That's about normal...

They're pretty easy to adjust really.
Original cars are often just stored and not set up.

The Wookie

13,936 posts

228 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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threespires said:
I'm told that of the 2 prototypes built at least 8 survive.
Have another rofl

Had a genuine chuckle when I read that!

Amirhussain

11,488 posts

163 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Didn't know they were that expensive

marshall100

1,124 posts

201 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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wst said:
A Land Rover has straighter shutlines!
Er........bothered?

jpf

1,311 posts

276 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Fix the shutlines, then we can talk price.