RE: SOTW: Citroen Saxo VTR

RE: SOTW: Citroen Saxo VTR

Friday 21st December 2012

SOTW: Citroen Saxo VTR

A warm Saxo that's miraculously still standard... and way under budget, too. It's a rare treat!



We all have our own privately-held ideas of perfect moments. Some involve Page Three lassies in confectionery-based environments, others involve Piers Morgan in less comfortable circumstances.

Standard... well... everything. Surely not?!
Standard... well... everything. Surely not?!
For Shed, the perfect moment is finding a nice little car with T&T, no obvious issues and a bargain price. What better time than Christmas, the time of giving and good will to all men, and traffic police, to share such a moment?

Lo, let us gaze in wonderment at the automotive equivalent of the Dead Sea Scrolls – an unmessed-with Citroen Saxo VTR.

Gape in open-mouthed wonder at its unlowered suspension. Suspend your disbelief at the pristine condition of its unsullied flanks and unscraped front end. Salivate at the sight of its gouge-free alloys, possibly – could it be? surely not? – wearing tyres not made in China.

Someone more uncouth than Shed might liken it all to finding a virgin in a whorehouse. He’s not like that, obviously, but he is feeling slightly faint. Hang on a minute… hang on… it’s got low mileage as well. Oh no. It's all too much.

OK, OK... we confess, it's got an aftermarket stereo
OK, OK... we confess, it's got an aftermarket stereo
The Mk2 Saxo is one of those rare cars that’s looking better with age. Our Shed is not a 16v 120bhp VTS, but the VTR’s spunky little 8-valve 1.6 squirts out 97bhp. It may not sound that much in today’s money but it’s still enough in a sub-900kg car to deliver a 120mph top end, and a 0-60 time not far off 8 seconds. Cheap to insure relative to the VTS, and cheaper to shoe too with 14in wheels (VTS had 15s). Steering is quick, body roll is well contained, lift-off oversteer is available on demand. All boxes ticked.

What’s wrong with it then, apart from it having the same name as a packet of salt? Well, it’s a French supermini from the early 2000s, so draw your own conclusions as regards long-term quality. Nor is it face-meltingly rapid at the top end, an 8-valve trait exacerbated by long gearing, but having half the correct number of valves means there’s decent get up and go from low revs around town.

The beauty of little cars that are light on their feet is that tyres and brakes can last ages if you don’t thrape them around everywhere. Or lower them too much, as that crocks the driveshafts and suspension bushes.

Respectable mileage means Shed heaven
Respectable mileage means Shed heaven
Talking of feet, if you’re saddled with wide ones you may not get on with it as there’s not much room in the footwell. And talking of brakes, servos can fail. Wheel bearings go, so does the power steering. ECU faults are not uncommon, a problem often caused by failing Sagem coilpacks. If you buy this car and it’s got one of them replace it immediately with a Bougicord one.

Inside, seat sliders are a bit flimsy, and take along a bottle of water so you can check the sunroof seals are still water-tight - Saxo roofs often get a bit leaky.

But on the up side, 40+ mpg, 7 months MOT, and tax till, er, Monday week… only Shed’s legendary sense of fair play and fear of being done for insider trading is preventing immediate purchase. Nothing to stop you though. Merry Christmas.


Here's the original ad:

CITROEN SAXO VTR 2001 LOW MILEAGE  (£799)

2001 X reg
1.6, 5-speed
Metallic red
61k miles
Tax until 31/12/12 and 7 months MOT
2 New front tyres 
3 Door, 5 seats
central locking
spare key
Radio/CD/AUX/USB head unit
Power-assisted steering

Author
Discussion

liammedler

Original Poster:

19 posts

140 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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seems like a decent runaround

SirSamuelBuca

1,353 posts

157 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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i loved my saxo vtr (first car) till i got another and realised who rubbish it was lol.

turbo/supercharged VTS are silly fast though.

Liquid Tuna

1,400 posts

156 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Bah Humbug!

nosittap

381 posts

145 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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I have one, costs peanuts to run, cheap to insure, good MPG and a lot of fun.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Great little comedy shed - great handling, although the power and gearbox are odd bedfellows, because it's a revvy unit that's coupled to a hugely long gearbox. Either way, worth a punt. biggrin

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

165 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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I didn't realise these had a redline at only 6100rpm.

StottyZr

6,860 posts

163 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Brilliant SOTW. I've spent quite a lot of time in a VTR as a good friend of mine had one, I can't recommend them enough. The image is the only truly bad things about these cars. They cost pennies to fix and are very chuckable with quite a punchy engine and they aren't bad on fuel either.

Although he did sell his 2years ago, for £950 with Michalins alround, long MOT and a brand new £140 backbox (very tasteful one, 2inch bore) so they've been sub £1000 for quite sometime now!

Neil G60

692 posts

224 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Ah, I miss mine. It was so much faster once I'd taken all the stereo out the boot wink

It did sterling work bombing up and down the M4 when I was visiting my now wife at uni - it would sit at 90 quite happily and I could get from Kent to Bristol and back on about £35.

Any the phase 2 VTRs actually had 98bhp, ahem biggrin

drgoatboy

1,623 posts

207 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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I had one of these for 3 years, similarly unmolested.

Really loved ever second of ownership, a real hoot to fling around at speeds that are a lot less likely to end in hefty fines or losing your license than something with more power.

Definitely not the last word in refinement or quality but mine never let me down and always made me smile.

Good shedding!


marshall100

1,124 posts

201 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Good.

I dare say that an un-fecked 106gti is shed money and then some? had mine for years, reason for sale was that on long journeys it was like being shut in a metal bin that was being repeatedly hit with a plank of wood.

Mikeyplum

1,646 posts

169 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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I miss my VTR frown was so much fun. A lot more fun than my Fiesta Zetec S actually, and a little bit quicker, considering it was 8v short of the Zetec S.

The rear disc brakes made it a little tail happy under heavy braking though. But I suppose that just added to the fun! biggrin

Nice to see a good, standard example for so little money. Got me thinking now scratchchin

philmots

4,631 posts

260 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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It looks extremely high in that side on picture..

Matt Bird

1,450 posts

205 months

PH Reportery Lad

Friday 21st December 2012
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Saw this ad the other day and thought how sweet it looked. Great shed!

dbdb

4,326 posts

173 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Yet another hot hatch? - Not much variety on SOTW at the moment. frown
I'm sure its a great car, if you like this kind of thing.

Evo Sean

228 posts

166 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Cracking SOTW. I've had 4 saxo's in the past, mainly during my young driver years. Two of them were Supercharged VTS's. One made 212bhp, the other a full on track car made 252bhp at around 850kilos it has no problem dealing with much more expensive machinery!

amazing little car for the money

Itsallicanafford

2,766 posts

159 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Could you get a VTS for under a £1000.00? I remember being spanked by one when driving a Fiat Coupe 20V (non-turbo)...a Proper pants down, ripping a new A-hole trashing...

gforceg

3,524 posts

179 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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philmots said:
It looks extremely high in that side on picture..
I think that's what they're supposed to look like!

Bradderz352

380 posts

166 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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ianwayne

6,292 posts

268 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Almost tempted by this one, but now that cars of that age with that engine size are £220 road tax (and sure to go up next year), it'll be the killer of all these type of cars.

It's not that bad on fuel really, a 'Y reg' one would be £170 p.a. Small potatoes I know, but worth considering on a sheds as part of a bangernomics philosophy. nerd

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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doogz said:
Krikkit said:
Great little comedy shed - great handling, although the power and gearbox are odd bedfellows, because it's a revvy unit that's coupled to a hugely long gearbox. Either way, worth a punt. biggrin
The 8v isn't that revvy, although the FD is a bit long.
Mastodon2 said:
I didn't realise these had a redline at only 6100rpm.
Neither did I! 6100RPM is far too low for comedy, I love winding mine up past 7k. biggrin