RE: Spotted: Renault Laguna Sport GT

RE: Spotted: Renault Laguna Sport GT

Thursday 3rd January 2013

Spotted: Renault Laguna Sport GT

It's going to be a hard sell this one - Dan rolls up his sleeves and prepares for battle!



We’re not above admitting that, as a team, we here on PH have some fairly predictable weaknesses. Those bloody MX-5s. A lot of Porsche love. TVRs. And, perhaps a little more surprisingly, a bit of a thing for big French cars. We’d blame Alex and his thing for Citroens but he’s still too new.

But, yes, I really am advocating a diesel* Laguna hatchback as a PH Spotted. Brave pill swallowed. Here I go…

I see you baby, shakin that ... eurgh!
I see you baby, shakin that ... eurgh!
Look at it this way. The Germans – it’s always easier if you can start by blaming the Germans – have pretty much hijacked the idea of what makes a ‘sporty’ car and convinced us that huge wheels, an unyielding ride and ‘mine’s more S line/M Sport than yours’ badge one-upmanship are the only way to signify your manliness in the M1’s fast lane. The pent-up aggression this macho vision of sportiness encourages is plain to see, usually because it’s so damned close to your rear bumper.

So deeply ingrained in the British car buyer's psyche is this Teutonic interpretation of 'sportlichness' that Renault was always going to struggle to overturn it. Especially when they tried doing so with the Laguna. That didn’t stop ’em giving it a go, though.

The Sport GT version was introduced in 2008, available in hatch or estate form and with either a 180hp diesel or 205hp petrol. The latter is the F4RT engine (stop sniggering at the back) related to that in Renaultsport Meganes, albeit with a smaller turbo. A quick chat with Renault tuning experts K-Tec reveals a remappable extra 25hp or so could be available but, sadly, more than that would require a bit more hardware.   

There was a whiff of Renaultsport’s hand in the chassis tuning, too, but word of this didn’t go much further than the press release, and publicly this warm Laguna is a GT and no more. Gallic eccentricity is assured with the Active Drive four-wheel steer rear axle, which gives the GT almost Clio-like chuckability. No, seriously! If you want the full skinny on the system the relevant info cribbed from the press release is here.

Relaxed and relaxing, while it works
Relaxed and relaxing, while it works
I drove one of these to the Alpine resort of Alpe D’Huez and up the endless hairpins made famous in many a Tour De France battle the Laguna was a revelation. Half a turn of lock dismissed the tightest turns, and gave the inside front wheel something to work with rather than just spinning up in a blaze of ESP warning lights. A stubborn resistance to understeer and a most surprising sense of agility elsewhere were also something of a surprise. OK, so not exactly a drift machine. But the handling, combined with the loping, relaxed ride, great forward visibility via cleverly sculpted A-pillars, comfy seats and superb refinement, made Laguna’s uniquely French take on 'sporty' actually far more relevant than that which the Germans have been selling us all these years.

Comfy and nimble aren’t two adjectives you’d usually use in the same assessment of a car’s handling. But the Laguna is both of these things. It’ll turn on a sixpence, squeeze into tight spaces you’d never chance your 20-inch S line alloys with, keep you relaxed and calm and ultimately leave you more inclined to respond to everyday frustrations from your fellow motorists with a Gallic shrug than a shaken fist. In summary, it’s the kind of sporty that actually makes sense. But nobody would ever actually buy into.

Shame really. That and the fact it’s up for nearly eight grand. Give it time though…

*Only because I couldn't find a petrol one, honest!


RENAULT LAGUNA SPORT GT
Engine:
 1,995cc 4-cyl turbo
Transmission:6-speed manual, FWD
Power (hp): 180@3,750rpm
Torque (lb ft): 221@2,000rpm
MPG: 43.4mpg (NEDC combined)
CO2: 172g/km
First registered: 2008
Recorded mileage: 41,957
Price new: £21,220
Yours for: £7,797

See the original advert here.

Author
Discussion

jeenyus

Original Poster:

23 posts

189 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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This is what PH is all about! Unearthing the diamonds in the S-line cluttered rough. Top job.

GTEYE

2,096 posts

210 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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Better looking than a contemporary 407....although thats not saying much really.

Better than £21k but no one would ever have paid anywhere near that.

But also not cheap enough at £8k, however in a couple of years time at £3k.....I would still say no.

But it does earn a certain amount of respect....and rarity.



Edited by GTEYE on Thursday 3rd January 13:31

lockhart flawse

2,041 posts

235 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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Makes a change to see anything from Renault that is not grey, black, silver or, more recently, white. The Laguna is the definition of anonymity particularly in grey with a black cloth interior but that blue makes it look a bit more interesting. Not sure who would want to pay that much for a 5 year old one though.

GTiFrank

625 posts

184 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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If you could find a petrol I'm sure it would be great.

Is the rarity going to slow the Gallic depreciation though?

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

218 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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Well it could be worse, it could the Petrol Turbo one, only car i have known refused point blank to be taken in PX.

The Don of Croy

5,995 posts

159 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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I always liked the generation immediately before this iteration - from the outside. One of the best looking family hatches (and tourers) offered for many a year IMHO.

The very idea of a comfy ride and competent handling - it will never catch on.

HTP99

22,543 posts

140 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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Great cars these, I haven't driven a petrol but I have a had a smoke in a dCi.

They are reliable, built well and good cruisers, it's just shame that its called Laguna, however I still think it wold have sunk in the UK with a different name, that segment is reserved, pretty much exclusively, for the Germans now.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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I had a petrol one of these for a weekend while the cambelt was being done on my old 172. Have to say it was quite a revalation.

Tight handling and a willing chassis were let down somewhat by the steering and strangled engine, but I would have certainly chosen it over the equivalent 407 or Mondeo at the time, purely as it was a bit more interesting.

These don't wear well though...

BoxsterEtype

507 posts

152 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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If this is a taste of 2013, Bring on the DeLorean so I can go back to 2012 (I never thought I'd say that)

daemon

35,814 posts

197 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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jeenyus said:
This is what PH is all about! Unearthing the diamonds in the S-line cluttered rough. Top job.
Yes, a turbodiesel 5 door repmobile, very PH

If you *really must*, i'd go for a mondeo or a passat.

GTiFrank

625 posts

184 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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One of these would currently be a better buy IMO:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...

HTP99

22,543 posts

140 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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Beefmeister said:
These don't wear well though...
On the contrary, they wear very well indeed.

daemon

35,814 posts

197 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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GTiFrank said:
One of these would currently be a better buy IMO:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...
Love his wording 'very desirable car'


daemon

35,814 posts

197 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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HTP99 said:
Beefmeister said:
These don't wear well though...
On the contrary, they wear very well indeed.
Really? That would be contrary to any experience i've had with the brand - assuming in 'wear' you include window regulator failure, dodgy electrics, turbo failure, injector failure, etc, etc...

HTP99

22,543 posts

140 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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daemon said:
HTP99 said:
Beefmeister said:
These don't wear well though...
On the contrary, they wear very well indeed.
Really? That would be contrary to any experience i've had with the brand - assuming in 'wear' you include window regulator failure, dodgy electrics, turbo failure, injector failure, etc, etc...
On Laguna II's perhaps but not Laguna III's

ant leigh

714 posts

143 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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This is a certain target for the 'its french therefore.....' brigade biggrin

daemon

35,814 posts

197 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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HTP99 said:
daemon said:
HTP99 said:
Beefmeister said:
These don't wear well though...
On the contrary, they wear very well indeed.
Really? That would be contrary to any experience i've had with the brand - assuming in 'wear' you include window regulator failure, dodgy electrics, turbo failure, injector failure, etc, etc...
On Laguna II's perhaps but not Laguna III's
So far. They havent been around long enough - yet.

daemon

35,814 posts

197 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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ant leigh said:
This is a certain target for the 'its french therefore.....' brigade biggrin
Well the problem is, you can buy better for less.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...

Or

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...




ant leigh

714 posts

143 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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daemon said:
Mondeo might be interesting.
But I have had two Passats before, not for me again.



HTP99

22,543 posts

140 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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daemon said:
HTP99 said:
daemon said:
HTP99 said:
Beefmeister said:
These don't wear well though...
On the contrary, they wear very well indeed.
Really? That would be contrary to any experience i've had with the brand - assuming in 'wear' you include window regulator failure, dodgy electrics, turbo failure, injector failure, etc, etc...
On Laguna II's perhaps but not Laguna III's
So far. They havent been around long enough - yet.
There you go, you are generalising, it's a Renault so therefore must be unreliable, actually apart from a blip in early 2000 Renaults have always been as reliable as the next car.

Renaults since Laguna III are more reliable than ever as they are built using similar principles and techniques to Laguna III and Laguna III was built using massive input from the working practicies of Nissan, Laguna III has been round since 2007 and don't give any issues.