RE: SOTW: Audi A8 2.8

Friday 11th January 2013

SOTW: Audi A8 2.8

Audi cleaned up at the What Car? awards this week but SOTW is the gong that outshines them all



What's the connection between Hollywood heart throbs Jason Statham and Robert de Niro, and PH editor Dan Trent?

The answer is that they've all been seen inside Audi A8s. Statham, Britain's answer to Vin Diesel and surely every bit as versatile an actor, drove a W12 in The Transporter. Bob de Niro was seen riding shotgun in an S8 in Ronin. And last Wednesday our very own DT was whisked away from a big London car awards dinner do in an Audi A8 press taxi, curled up in the foetal position after copping a piping-hot faceful of banter off Pub Landlord Al Murray.*

Low-light photos disguise this Shed's true hue
Low-light photos disguise this Shed's true hue
Pleasingly, the odd A8 has started to wander in front of the Shedman's crosshairs like a sleepy moose who hasn't read the open hunting season notices. This one was built four years into the first-gen A8 run, just before a midlife refresh that brought in a front-end restyle and kicked out the 3.7 V8 petrol option.

The 30-valve 2.8 V6 that propped up the A8 range may not be the most glamorous lump in the world, or even in the Audi catalogue, but it's pretty dependable and its 170hp should be more than enough for those of a wafting disposition. PH Essentials has it down for 10.1sec over the 0-62, but Shed reckons it's probably a second better than that.

The A8's key feature, its aluminium monocoque, is something of a double-edged sword. For the new A8 buyer, it meant an excellent power to weight ratio. At under 1,700kg, the basic first-series A8 was around 200kg lighter than the equivalent W140 Merc. Though a Seven would beat it on an A- or B-road, the Audi handled more nimbly than the bombastic Merc and had better body control than the rubbery Lexus LS.

All the toys and most should still work too
All the toys and most should still work too
For used A8 buyers, aluminium bodywork potentially means bigger shunt repair bills, but any Shedman worth his salt should be more than happy to motor on with a dented A8 as long as its structural integrity is uncompromised, because the A8 is classless class. You can drive them without shame or guilt. It is the epitome of low-ego luxury, a car with no 'side' or mental baggage. This particular one has history, and single custodianship for the past seven years.

Any electrically-complex luxury car carries an element of risk, as subsequent A8 models began to show, but the Mk1 2WD A8 seems to suffer from remarkably few problems. You might have the odd brake or ABS glitch, the odd window that fritzes out, or the odd heated steering wheel that might not work that well, or at all. There was a recall in 1999 for steering link components.

Classless luxury and waftability - a true SOTW!
Classless luxury and waftability - a true SOTW!
Generally speaking though the A8 has a fine reputation for engineered sturdiness. The shutlines on this one still look scalpel-sharp. Even with 150K up, it looks nicely poised for plenty more years yet. You'd certainly expect FWD models like this one to be cheaper to run than the Quattros, which have well documented transmission issues.

Because A8s needed to compete against BMW's 7 Series and the mighty S-Class, even poverty spec models came lavishly tooled up with cow, tree and power everything. The colour of our Shed may be an issue for some. The vendor goes to some pains to express the car's goldness, which is just as well because the smudgy pics might lead you to believe it's silver. It's not. It's gold, Gold, or indeed GOLD, which is very much like ordinary gold, only golder.

(*Though I have been seen in A8s for the sake of full disclosure this time it was actually an Espace! Still, why let the truth get in the way of an intro like that! - Ed.)


Here's the original ad...

AUDI A8 2.8 4DR AUTO (£995)
Gold.
GOLD Saloon. 2771 cc Petrol, Automatic. Gold, MOT-02-2013. Same Owner last 7 years, Service History, ABS, Adjustable seats, Air conditioning, Alloy wheels, Anti theft system, CD, Colour coding - Body, Cruise control, Electric mirrors, Electric windows, Foglights, Leather seats, Leather upholstery, Power assisted steering, Tinted glass. Very Nice Clean Example, Cherished Throughout its life, Part Exchange Clearance, Absolute Bargain, No Offers, Viewing By Appointment.

 

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SprintSpeciale

Original Poster:

432 posts

145 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Last owner, Tony Hadley?

Chickentonight

49 posts

144 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Exterior=bluergh

Interior= Ooooh hello me want.

FWDRacer

3,564 posts

224 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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The curse of jewish racing gold strikes again... hehe

W00DY

15,491 posts

226 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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The 3.7 wasn't dropped entirely, just became Quattro only and didn't the 2.8 have more like 190bhp?

Nice motors and I do fancy a facelift 8 S8 at some point.

pSyCoSiS

3,594 posts

205 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Nice car for the cash.

I'm pretty sure the 2.8 litre unit has around 193 bhp? The same sort of output as the 728i?

They are solid cars, still look nice and have a bit of presence about them.

If you find a well-looked after one, they will go on foever, and everything should still feel nice and solid.

Top shedding!!

LeighW

4,401 posts

188 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Statham, Britain's answer to Vin Diesel and surely every bit as versatile an actor

hehe

vit4

3,507 posts

170 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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I didn't realise that they did FWD A8's, thought they were all quattro! Still, a lot of car for the money smile

X5TUU

11,939 posts

187 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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That's a whole load of shed-age for the money!!

carinaman

21,292 posts

172 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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W00DY said:
The 3.7 wasn't dropped entirely, just became Quattro only and didn't the 2.8 have more like 190bhp?

Nice motors and I do fancy a facelift 8 S8 at some point.
I think you're correct. I think the 30V V6 went to 192bhp when it went into the last of the 100 C4 shape A6s around 96/97 P plate time. The pre-30V 2.8 was 173bhp ish.

There's been an A8 at specialist near me for nearer £1K than £2K for a while.

More MoT for the money would've been good.

pSyCoSiS

3,594 posts

205 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Having a look at recent prices for sheds such as the E38 7 Series, w140 S Class, Jaguar XJs, these A8s still tend to hold their value a little more.

pSyCoSiS

3,594 posts

205 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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carinaman said:
I think you're correct. I think the 30V V6 went to 192bhp when it went into the last of the 100 C4 shape A6s around 96/97 P plate time. The pre-30V 2.8 was 173bhp ish.

There's been an A8 at specialist near me for nearer £1K than £2K for a while.

More MoT for the money would've been good.
I think circa 170bhp is a tad underpowered in a barge of such proportions...

Cassius81

283 posts

189 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Don't like the colour, but like the car - very classy and understated.

Strikes me as one of those cars that you could buy for 1k and most people (non-PHers at least) would swear it was worth two, three, five times as much. Not true of every Shed...

carinaman

21,292 posts

172 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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pSyCoSiS said:
carinaman said:
I think you're correct. I think the 30V V6 went to 192bhp when it went into the last of the 100 C4 shape A6s around 96/97 P plate time. The pre-30V 2.8 was 173bhp ish.

There's been an A8 at specialist near me for nearer £1K than £2K for a while.

More MoT for the money would've been good.
I think circa 170bhp is a tad underpowered in a barge of such proportions...
Consulting a Parkers from years ago:

Came out in Sept. '94 with 174bhp

May '96 30V version with 193bhp - Sport version came out at the same time for the 2.8


How old is this Shed? Can we tell if it's the 30V 2.8 or not?

That I was within 1bhp of each quoted figure from memory is a bit sad.

carinaman

21,292 posts

172 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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pSyCoSiS said:
I think circa 170bhp is a tad underpowered in a barge of such proportions...
I guess it depends on the torque, the car is alloy and is unencumbered by Quattro driveshafts and diffs.

DavidY

4,459 posts

284 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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pSyCoSiS said:
I think circa 170bhp is a tad underpowered in a barge of such proportions...
It's only the weight of the same age BMW 5 series

I had a 3.7 one on a P plate, both my services cost more than this one!!! They eat front suspension bushes and electrics when they go wrong are very expensive, just about everything is routed through the ECU. Great car when it worked!

pSyCoSiS

3,594 posts

205 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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carinaman said:
I guess it depends on the torque, the car is alloy and is unencumbered by Quattro driveshafts and diffs.
That's a fair point, although I still think that the 190 ish bhp would be more adequate.

I too didn't realise these come on FWD only verions. Thought they were all Quattros

RenesisEvo

3,608 posts

219 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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I'm just waiting for Baryonyx to appear...

I do like the A8, a solid alternative to the '5 series scaled by photocopier' look of the earlier 7s and far better at visually hiding its low purchase price. I do prefer the D3 shape to this D2, and whilst that is slowing slipping into 5k barge territory (a long way from Shed), one risks gearbox borkage and electronic gremlins several orders of magnitude more expensive.

k-ink

9,070 posts

179 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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I test drove the S and this more basic 2.8 A8 some time ago. Yes this engine is perhaps a tad underpowered for such a car. But what impressed me was how quiet it remained inside. You can nail the hammer to the floor and barely notice the little 2.8 is working at all. It is not like the experience of thrashing a small noisey hot hatch. The engine may be working hard under the hood but you are not really aware of it. I approve of the looks, great interior, overall image and massive boot. Great cars!

SuperHangOn

3,486 posts

153 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Needs a V8 and quattro to be worthwhile.

SeenTheStrings

63 posts

145 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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GOOOOOOOOLD!