RE: SOTW: Mercedes-Benz 190E

RE: SOTW: Mercedes-Benz 190E

Friday 8th February 2013

SOTW: Mercedes-Benz 190E

Glamorous? No. Fast? No. But an old-school Benz with scaled-down waftability for under a grand - wunderbar!



The concept of wafting is most commonly associated with barges of some girth, Tarmac-compressing burlmeisters like the 7 Series BMW, the Jaguar XJ or the Lexus LS400. However, if there was such an activity as mini-wafting, the Mercedes 190 would be an excellent choice for it.

This downsized Merc, model name W201, was introduced in 1982 as both a competitor for the BMW 3 Series and as a means of lowering the entry level of Mercedes ownership. Nearly 1.9 million were sold, many of them in the UK market, we Brits being well known in the trade for choosing the cheapest model in a premium range over a similarly-priced (and often objectively superior) car from a more plebeian marque.

Everyone's downsizing these days - even Shed
Everyone's downsizing these days - even Shed
Not that there was much to deride in the 190. No 'built down to a price' budget hack, it was made to traditional (ie. pre-Chrysler) Benz quality standards. Witness the 15,000 or so that remain alive in the UK, only around a fifth of them SORN'd.

Towards the end of its 11-year lifespan, the 190 became something of a senior citizen's favourite, with the result that you can still find well-loved examples like this one in parish newspaper small ads.

It came with a range of slightly anaemic four-pot petrols from 1.8 to 2.0, an in-line six 2.6 petrol, a clattery cloud of turbo and non-turbo diesel units, and of course the feelsome 2.3/2.5-16 twin-cams. Our very own Dan, an ex-2.3-16 owner himself, rates the 190 over the E30 BMW. "The multi-link rear suspension and aerodynamic styling were streets ahead," he says authoritatively, before zipping up his flak jacket.

While we've got Dan here, let's recall an interview he did with Mercedes design deity Bruno Sacco in which he (Sacco) nominated the 190 as one of his proudest achievements. He claimed that it was

The inspiration for the 190's styling - honest
The inspiration for the 190's styling - honest
heavily influenced stylistically and aerodynamically by the silver diesel offshoot of the C111 Wankel supercar. If our picture gnomes have done their job, there should be an image of it hereabouts. Now, even after a goodly half-hour's inhalation of fumes from his compost heap, Shed is yet to make the visual connection, but he is also happy to admit that the language of design is not his lingua franca.

The 190 does look quite good though, perhaps better now than it did when it was launched. Let's not pretend it's perfect: that clever (for the time) rear suspension plus the miniaturising process had predictably negative consequences on interior space, especially in the back. A 190 wouldn't be the number one choice for anyone having to carry four, or even three, adults on a regular basis.

Nor was the 2.0-litre 190E a fast car, as the PH Essentials show, but it's a pleasant thing to amble about in. The four-speed auto on this car is definitely the preferred option, if only because Mercedes has not made a decent manual transmission since 1902.

Auto - obviously - and trad 'taxi' Merc wheel
Auto - obviously - and trad 'taxi' Merc wheel
Dan's still here by the way, and boyishly keen to big up the 190's Monoblade single wiper, which was indeed a very neat solution as long as you kept it lubed. Which brings us to the list of shame: what goes wrong.

Not that much, in truth, not for a 30-year-old design anyway, and certainly nothing bankruptcy-threatening. The first two words you need to know are 'water pump', a component that German manufacturers seem to have a problem with. Timing is by chain, which is a good thing, but it will jump out of its guides if the tensioner's a bit lacking.

Check the gearbox coolant pipe that runs from the top left corner of the radiator. It can corrode under your rad and drop the transmission oil. New pipes are less than £50, and easy to fit. Cracked fuel pump relays will introduce you to the joys of hesitation under load and hard starting. Poor idling could be down to that relay too, although it might also be the idle control valve, a well-known 190 weakness. Fuel pumps themselves will let go, as can injectors and head gaskets, but of course none of these difficulties are exclusive to the 190.

Mud accumulating around the rear tow hook hanger will rust out the boot floor: not a structural area, so by no means a disaster. Rot can strike near the bottom of the rear window frame, doshing more H20 into your boot. Front strut top mounts might be a bit brown, but replacements are dirt cheap from GSF or your local equivalent. Rear jacking points also merit a poke around with a sharp metal stick, or screwdriver as the experts like to call it.

As tweedy in character as the seats are in upholstery
As tweedy in character as the seats are in upholstery
Electrics? Again just the normal items that start off as fit-and-forget but which become consumables over time, things like the alternator, starter motor, electric window and aerial motors and heater blowers.

The interior is tough as old boots, and the same colour too in this car. Ignition barrels can jam, and that auto 'box will eventually start to slip, but you'd be unlucky to have that happen in a 74K car that seems to have been pretty well looked after.

That's the key to happy 190 ownership, really. Look after it, and it will look after you. Shed reckons the 190 is one of those cars that could come back round for a second spell in the sun. Mind you, he thinks the same thing about those two-tone violet loon pants in his wardrobe.


Here's the ad.

Mercedes 190E Auto 1990 with just 74000 miles on the clock. I have owned this car for the last 4 years and she has never let me down in almost 20000 miles. Very solid, a couple of parking dents and a couple of scratches on the boot lid but structurally it is perfect. I am the 4th owner and I have loads of receipts, original manuals and old MOTs.

MOT to 10 May 13, Tax to end April 13. Metallic smoke silver, brown cloth interior. Everything works as it should. Electric sunroof and 4 electric windows, central locking, front and rear armrests and sony iPod/Cd player, heated mirrors.

4 good Continental EcoContacts plus brand new spare.

Only selling as I don't need to commute anymore.

£975 ono

 

Author
Discussion

Martin 480 Turbo

Original Poster:

601 posts

187 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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The best car Benz ever built. Period.
And that comes from a man, who still cares for an E30.

hman

7,487 posts

194 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Am I worng that this could be a great, solid first car for a new driver?

would it be insurable?

BL Fanboy

339 posts

142 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Lovely thing. I want! Seats that look like they are made form an Americans trousers too.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

249 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Bargain.

ADP68

528 posts

171 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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I had a 3 year old one back in '96. It was the first 'posh' brand and I thought I was the bees-knees at 28 years old !! My mates were really impressed too. It was a great car, well-built and comfy. Mine was pleb spec manual, with manual sunroof (you needed arms like Arnold to slide it) and cloth interior with manual back windows; not even air conditioned, but I loved it!!

John Boy 616

199 posts

165 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Good shed, I would quite happily pootle around in that!

Limpet

6,305 posts

161 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Not for me personally, but I appreciate the engineering and build quality.

The Badger

355 posts

176 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Cooler than anything currently on sale by a mainstream manufacturer.

anything fast

983 posts

164 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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I am pretty sure the Mercedes museum in Germany has a 1 million mile 190E ex taxi in its grasp. Still running original engine and transmission.


That says all you need to know about what superbly built car the 190 is.

over_the_hill

3,186 posts

246 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Did the author call other marques "plebs"

pSyCoSiS

3,591 posts

205 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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That's a lovely little car.

Solid things, these 190E's.

I have had two of them, and the last one I had in 2011 was an absolute minter. Silver, black interior and totally original.

I think these are better-built than the E30 BMWs, although not as fun / dynamic to drive. Engines are strong, but not quick or economical. Very smooth cars.

Even though the E30 has a more menacing front end, I love the rear three-quarters of the 190E. The chunky rear lights and that vent in the pillar just look fantastic.

This will still be around in 30 years time if looked after, chugging along, whilst all the newer cars have failed due to their comples electronics, sensors, etc.

CampDavid

9,145 posts

198 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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One of these in good, clean shape, still cuts it today. A fine chariot

JohnGoodridge

529 posts

195 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Isn't a downsized shed called a Wendy house? No offence to the MB, which is properly sheddish IMHO.

urquattro

755 posts

186 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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A real top shed, view from a long time MB owner, all spare bits easy to get and most easy to fit.
Classic insurance about £150/200 and real cheap comfortable motoring.
So what if it wont break the sound barrier, it will go on and on if you treat it properly.clap

Trusty Steed

290 posts

194 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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My Brother in law has one of these on a 90 H, its immaculate and such a piece of art to look at. Top shed PH people!

V8 FOU

2,971 posts

147 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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About the last decent car made by MB.
Everything else that has followed has suffered the built down to a price syndrome.

pSyCoSiS

3,591 posts

205 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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urquattro said:
So what if it wont break the sound barrier, it will go on and on if you treat it properly.clap
Exactly that!

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

255 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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I had a slightly faded red one... A 2.0 auto. Not fast, but wasn't slow. Very comfortable, and I loved it. Great car. Felt like a tank, and drive surprisingly well. The wipers were a constant fascination.

SuperHangOn

3,486 posts

153 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Great little cars- and silly reliable even now if you look after them. Top shed!

Mr E

21,614 posts

259 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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My farther had a black 190 with the 2 litre carb engine.
It was quite magnificent after 2x talbot alpines.