RE: SOTW: Fiat Coupe

Friday 1st March 2013

SOTW: Fiat Coupe

An Italian temptress has Shed's trigger finger itching



Can't afford an Alfa 8C-based Disco Volante? Shame. Never mind, at a fraction of one per cent of one of those, Shed draws your attention to this rather fetching Fiat Coupe Turbo.

Before his time at BMW, controversial auto stylist Chris Bangle worked at Fiat's Centro Stile. The Coupe was one of his efforts. Love him or hate him, you can never ignore Chris Bangle. Some of his BMW stuff seemed to be designed with appeal rooted more in the future than the present-day. He was - still is, in fact - a visionary, of sorts.

'Mini supercar' looks are a joy to behold
'Mini supercar' looks are a joy to behold
Shed met Bangle once. A decent enough fellow: beardy, smaller than you might have expected and clutching a notepad for the instant recording of those many inspirational flashes he received from who knows where. Trouble was, Shed couldn't take him seriously, what with him being named after an item of teenage jewellery. He spent the whole five minutes trying to nod sagely at the Special One's insightful pronouncements, while stifling a latent snigger.

By any objective measure, the Coupe's individual styling elements like its squared-off wheelarches, long overhangs and bingo-wing hindquarters are, frankly, minging. From certain angles, the Coupé is less tempting beauty, more tenpin bowling shoe.

Somehow though, and against all the odds, it seems to come together. Those scallops and creases were well 'out there' at the time of the launch in 1993 and had hardly diminished in visual shock value by the time the car's life came to an end in 2000. They give the Coupe some of that pouncing stance that Bangle perfected in the BMW Z4, another car that prompted some head-scratching at the time but which is looking fresher with each passing day.

13 years after its demise, the Coupé's 'carved-clay' look has become standard fare on just about every cooking hatchback. Eeh, it just goes to show... er... something.

You could argue about the best exterior view - Shed personally likes the high chopped back end with the Ferrari-style lenses and 'racing' tank filler - but there's no arguing about the smooth style of the Pininfarina interior. That painted dash has a clean delicacy of line that you just don't see nowadays. Red with black leather is a classic combo too: a day spent with some polishing compound and a jar of leather food will produce something to be proud of.

Flash of painted metal livens interior
Flash of painted metal livens interior
When this one was built in 1996, the Coupé's reducing sales curve was given a lift by the arrival of the five-cylinder 20V turbo. With a posted output of 220hp, 6.3 seconds for the 0-60 and a top speed of 155mph it was, and still is, a serious bit of kit. Losing a cylinder adds a second to the 0-60 time and knocks 15mph off the top end, but the 16V numbers are still plenty respectable, and all-round independent suspension plus the well-respected Viscodrive slippy diff mean you can put it all down to the ground.

Shed reckons the 16V is a sounder used purchase than the five-pot too. Both cars are surprisingly well built, both are pleasingly reliable, but cam and aux belt replacement on the 20V is a knuckle-skinner (Fiat dealers will want to take the engine out to do it). Ignore the belts at your peril: unlike the Punto they're interference type and will wreak valvular havoc when they snap.

General problems? Not many. Front wishbones crumble, as do rear springs. Usual stuff like water pumps need monitoring, and of course lubrication is important in a turbo unit (Garrett T3 in this case). Normally-aspirated 16V camshafts are reputed to be a bit soft. Other than that you're looking at a solid, sporting and attractively different four-seat coupé which will deliver 35mpg when the blower's not spinning, with 240hp easily and (thanks to the forged Integrale crank) reliably attained via chip.

Still not sure? Ask someone who started out thinking they were going to get an Alfa GTV but changed their mind after having a go in a Coupe. There are some very good Coupe specialists out there too, like PowerItalia and L&M. Shed heartily endorses this choice.


Here's the ad.

Up for sale is my 1996 Fiat Coupé 16V Turbo

Its currently on 106k miles and will be staying there as i have a new car.
It has full electric pack (windows sunroof mirrors etc)
Full leather interior
6 Month MOT
1 Month Tax
Kenwood Headunit

As a mechanic, i have taken care of the car regardless of cost, it has wanted for nothing. it has had a recent service, two new tyres, battery, washer pump replaced, brake sliders and auxiliary belt

 

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DavidWearsPrada

Original Poster:

48 posts

138 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Love these things every year at Auto Italia Brooklands they look and sound fantastic, I need some bravery pills...

stevo6

148 posts

232 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Oooh.... I had a yellow 20v turbo for 3 years from new, and it was brilliant. Alternatives at the time were a 328i(poverty spec), Alfa GTV (no boot), and Integra Type R. Was delighted by the Fiat and didn't put a foot wrong. I think they did an excellent job given its humble under pinnings. Great cars.

P2BS

3,605 posts

143 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Like like like! Best colour, old school 16v engine... what's not to like!

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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confused I know I shouldn't love these, but I do.
cloud9


Great shed.

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Great shed!

Spoof

1,854 posts

215 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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I ran against a breathed on 20v at Pod a few years back (Auto Italia day) and it made me look positively slow and just to add insult, it even sounded better.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-g0sOi4Pgg


shouldbworking

4,769 posts

212 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Sadly a squillion miles away or I'd have that in a heartbeat

Mr E

21,616 posts

259 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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I very nearly bought a 20V turbo. A test drive in the piddling rain and hamfisted me rather put me off.
Still a pretty, pretty car.

JohnGoodridge

529 posts

195 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Like. Have been scouring classifieds of all flavours for a shed qualifying Alfa 147, but now I'm not so sure.

Remember falling for a red one of these at a dealership about the time Autocar had one on the cover with a Ferarri 550 and the title 'Same heart, different beat'. Can't buy publicity like that can you?

Very tempted.

X5TUU

11,939 posts

187 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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not too far from my neck of the woods, and looks tidy

however, I have seen these go for literally very low double digits, so dont know if this is a tad overpriced?!?

B'stard Child

28,395 posts

246 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Different and better for it - styling has always looked good to me (despite not initially liking any of the Bangle BMW's)

Maxxxer

10 posts

177 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Had a 20V Turbo - loved every second of it in the 5 1/2 years of ownership (Why did i sell it again? ).

However I really wouldn't bother taking the 20V Turbo to have the Cambelt done; aside form the liklehood they have no idea about these cars (experience tells me so) the cambelt can be done with the engine in-situ by a specialist (I used Motormech at Birmingham) for about a quarter of the price of a main dealer....

Epic cars though. Biggest mistake ever selling mine (mind you I have a dull Focus mk1 now, so perhaps thats why i miss it so much...! )

forzaminardi

2,290 posts

187 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Brilliant car and one of my schoolboy dreams.

Has to be a 20v Turbo though.

V8 FOU

2,974 posts

147 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Brilliant sheddery.
One of the few fwd cars I would have .... but I have 6 cars already. Errm..

C.A.R.

3,967 posts

188 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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I think these have aged badly, personally, but they look good in an almost retro way?

I saw one of these in pearl white recently and thought it looked really good. Mild barry mods but otherwise really smart.

One thing I remember was that these have to come with the original 'red' key, or you can end up with a heavy bill?

And does anyone else remember this on Gran Turismo 3? It was in one of the first apex license tests smile

SMGB

790 posts

139 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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I friend had a 20v from new in that blue that only the 20v turbos came in. Black leather , chipped and Konis, what a car smile. his OH would not stand for the first cambelt service prefering to go on holiday for the money and it was sold. I thought at the time he had sold a future classic, but it turns out they have not got the recognition they deserve. Now if a nice leather trim 20V is on classifieds....

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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I've always loved these, despite their Marmite looks I reckon they're one of the all-time great designs.

I'd love a 20v (for that 5-pot warble!) in blue with tan leather. Gorgeous.

carinaman

21,292 posts

172 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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JohnGoodridge said:
Like. Have been scouring classifieds of all flavours for a shed qualifying Alfa 147, but now I'm not so sure.

Remember falling for a red one of these at a dealership about the time Autocar had one on the cover with a Ferarri 550 and the title 'Same heart, different beat'. Can't buy publicity like that can you?

Very tempted.
It was CAR Magazine. smile

Perhaps you can buy publicity like that. They gave one away as a competition prize and I think it was won by a woman that was a professional competition enterer, using Competitors Companion I think.

kenno78

321 posts

155 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Spoof said:
I ran against a breathed on 20v at Pod a few years back (Auto Italia day) and it made me look positively slow and just to add insult, it even sounded better.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-g0sOi4Pgg
Spoof if it makes you feel any better, that was one of the fastest Fiat Coupes in the country at the time.

I had mine for 5 years and went through some ups and downs. Mainly remember the up's though. Great Shed.

sjg

7,452 posts

265 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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My dad owned one just like that - 97, red, 16v Turbo - for quite a few years.

Managed to destroy a tensioner and throw it's cambelt while on track. He spent the best part of £3k on the rebuild at L&M (new valves, pistons, camshafts and getting a few other non-engine bits done) only to sell it about 6 months later for £2200.

Nice cars though, and it's getting very rare to see one now. Cheap future classic in my book.