RE: Renault Twin'Run - behind the scenes

RE: Renault Twin'Run - behind the scenes

Tuesday 28th May 2013

Renault Twin'Run

Up close and personal with an exclusive first-hand look at Renault's mad mid-engined Twingo



Renault is preparing to build the most interesting city car we’ve seen in a long time, and certainly the most PH-worthy

Rear-engined, rear-drive Twingo inspires mischief
Rear-engined, rear-drive Twingo inspires mischief
The new Twingo, due later next year, will be rear-engined, rear-driven and powered by a three-cylinder turbo engine designed in consultation with Ford, makers of the excellent 1.0-litre EcoBoost turbo.

That latter fact was confirmed to us a couple of weeks ago by Mercedes parent Daimler, who is partnering with Renault on the Twingo and creating two Smart versions of the same car.

The rear-engined, rear-drive layout has long been rumoured, but was officially announced to PistonHeads by designer Laurens van den Acker at the launch of the Twingo concept car last week in Monaco.

“The new rear-engined layout gave us opportunity to reinvent the small car,” he told us.

Renault is serious about the fun element of the production Twingo, and to prove it the Twin’Run was a fully functioning rally car built from a mid-engined Megane Trophy platform complete with that car’s 3.5-litre V6. Renault boss Carlos Tavares proved its mettle with three noisy laps of the Monaco GP track hotly pursued by famed French rally ace Jean Ragnotti in a Renault 5 Turbo.

Production car may differ from this concept...
Production car may differ from this concept...
We couldn’t get Tavares to say whether he’d actually build  a production mid-engined Twingo and pass on the mental mantle from the Clio V6, but he did say he could “imagine” an RS version.

As for how the new Twingo will look, Tavares said the production car will be “50 to 70 per cent” of the Twin’Run car. The weight saving glass hatch will remain, but probably not the bumper-mounted exhausts.

In the flesh the concept looked a squarer, beefier mutation of the Fiat 500 and Renault is very aware of the debt to the phenomenally successful Italian in this sector. “Frankly if the car has half the appeal of the 500 I’d be quite happy,” van den Acker told journalists. Such comparisons are inevitable in the job, he reckons: “The Dezir [sports concept] was an R8, the Clio was a Seat Ibizia. But once the cars are seen side by side they gain their own life.”

It could even be argued the Twingo is far more the spiritual successor of the original 500 because the engine is the right place…

Glass hatch nods to classic Renault 5 Turbo
Glass hatch nods to classic Renault 5 Turbo
Despite the Twingo’s upcoming switch from cheap utility to town toy, one difference will be a move from two doors to four (or five with the hatch). This is a first in the three generation of Twingos and won’t be welcomed by all, of course (shades of the new Clio Renaultsport).

If you’re not sold on it, there’s always the Renaultsport 133 version of the current Twingo, which is now as cheap as £4,495 for this Cup-specced 2008 car with 61,000 miles.

The UK never officially imported the strangely appealing original Twingo, but Francophiles with a yearning for the monobox Mk1 could plonk down £2,000 on this left-hand drive car. Market stall not included.





   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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Quhet

Original Poster:

2,428 posts

147 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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Exciting!
Not a fan of those square spotlights or the wheels thoughvomit

Technomatt

1,085 posts

134 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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Come on Renault, give the buyers something decent to buy in the showroom rather than blowing loads of cash on these irrelevant concepts and stuff like the Twizy. Priorities.


Blayney

2,948 posts

187 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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I have a Twingo 2 atm. RR layout is interesting. As is the triple. If they do one with 130bhp again it could be a giggle.

405dogvan

5,328 posts

266 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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A rare spyshot from the garage where Postman Pat's van is serviced...


paranoid airbag

2,679 posts

160 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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What are the square things? Other than that, stirling work, I'd definitely be interested thumbup

the_hood

771 posts

195 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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paranoid airbag said:
What are the square things?
Parking sensors smile

zerovira

63 posts

132 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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Where is the gear shifter?

Is it that ENORMOUS thing between the seats? strange

TheRoadWarrior

1,241 posts

179 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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Perhaps I'm a little slow on the uptake today (Or not had enough coffee) but I'm left slightly confused...

So renault are building a new rear-engined, rwd twingo.. correct? What about a mid-engined one mentioned, is that something else?

This concept, other than the badge bears little relation to said twingo that will actually be built? Or 50-70% according to Tavares? Quite how that's possible I don't know, given one is a megane trophy racer in a frock and the other is a proposed production city-car?

PH said:
This is a first in the three generation of Twingos and won’t be welcomed by all, of course
Hows that? I know the clio got knocked for being 5 door only.. but it'd take a pretty jaded petrol head not to welcome a rear engined RWD turbo twingo with open arms.. even if it had 15 doors.

Also if it is rear engined.. how exactly will they package it with 5-doors? So you open the boot and there is the engine? Ok for keeping your baguette warm I guess. I love the boot on the old clio V6- comically small. smile

Lewisp12

77 posts

134 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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I read sometime ago on Autocar magazine, news that Renault would be bringing back the Renault 5!

I haven't heard much of it since, other than this concept with the big number '5' on its side... Would I be correct in thinking that, erm... this is it? Or is it not at all linked?! Or have those plans been dropped? Or is there something else I'm missing?

bagseye

111 posts

178 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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They HAVE to make a RS version of this. They would be utterly mad not to.

I don't see a V6 ever making production but a turbo 4. Thats what my current RS Twingo misses, the ease of tuning. I'd place an order today if they announced a Cup version.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

229 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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I really like the square spot lights and wheel design, but not likely to make it to road car.

k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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Shame it is not called a 5! Great if they make it though. Makes Pug look even more dull!

gofasterrosssco

1,238 posts

237 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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Thats a VQ35DE in the back there..

Hellbound

2,500 posts

177 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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Looks as if Renault may actually redeem themselves.

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

164 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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I do like this, except for those square things at the front.

DanielSan

18,818 posts

168 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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zerovira said:
Where is the gear shifter?

Is it that ENORMOUS thing between the seats? strange
Have you ever seen a car fitted with a sequential box before?

roystinho

3,767 posts

176 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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No video in the article?

http://t.co/dEUBWpXglp

Would love it to be made. Maybe Witt the Clio engine in.

And another video

http://youtu.be/_c2hOhpeOCE

DonkeyApple

55,443 posts

170 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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"As for how the new Twingo will look, Tavares said the production car will be “50 to 70 per cent” of the Twin’Run car."

So, seeing as a chimp is 97% human, then a 50% deviation in this car means it could look nothing like the one above at all.

menoy

142 posts

135 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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PH said:
Despite the Twingo’s upcoming switch from cheap utility to town toy, one difference will be a move from two doors to four (or five with the hatch).
There. All the excitement gone. FFS...

Technomatt

1,085 posts

134 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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DonkeyApple said:
"As for how the new Twingo will look, Tavares said the production car will be “50 to 70 per cent” of the Twin’Run car."

So, seeing as a chimp is 97% human, then a 50% deviation in this car means it could look nothing like the one above at all.
What surprises me are the 97% humans who think this sort of contraption will actually hit the showroom.