RE: BMW i3: Driven

Wednesday 10th July 2013

2014 BMW i3 Prototype | Review

Harris gets an early go with BMW's pioneering carbon fibre city car



"So, do you think it drives like a BMW" asked the man responsible for the way Bavaria's first electric hatchback handles and rides. And not for the first time that day. His earnestness and determination to score an answer hid the fact that he was asking the wrong question. Whether the i3 drives like a BMW - whatever that actually means - is immaterial because the i3 will have a role unlike any other car in the company's history.

It will need to excel over short distances, consume minimal resources and be both comfortable and safe. It will also need to appear irresistible to the metro elite, seat four adults in comfort and debunk the myth that electric cars either don't work in the real world, or offer about as much showroom appeal as ... a Nissan Leaf.

In fact the last thing the i3 actually needs to do is to drive like a BMW, assuming that means smoke its rear tyres and engage reverse gear with a long-arm to the left. What it has to do is prove that BMW's take on electric transportation is, much like its gasoline-powered equivalent, rather better than other offerings.


It was the carbon fibre that did it for me. If the i3 was just a lump of steel festooned with posh Duracells I would have stayed at home and done some oversteer, but ever since McLaren launched the MP4/1 in 1981 we have been promised that this remarkable material would eventually be used to make ordinary cars. It has taken 32 years to reach that point. Sitting in a military hangar at BMW's Maisach driver training site near Munich, the i3's bare CFRP body structure looks to me like a decent approximation of the future. This isn't quite the full carbon machine we've been waiting for - the powertrain sits on an aluminium rolling chassis containing some gorgeously complicated castings. But the whole thing is beautifully engineered.

It is now rather late as I write this, so in the interests of my sanity, I'm going to post the full technical document released by BMW yesterday, comment on the aspects that caught my eye under the skin and tell you what it's like to drive on the smoothest section of asphalt in northern Europe. For 10 minutes.

The DIN unladen weight of the i3 is 1,195kg. You can view this either as a triumph in the knowledge that a Nissan Leaf is 1,520kg, or a shame that something so physically small should need to breach a ton. The batteries sit under the floor, the motor is at the rear, as is the range-extending two-cylinder motor, should you opt for it. This engine is not connected to the drivetrain, it is merely used to provide energy for the batteries.


Weight distribution is a perfect 50/50 for the pure EV version, a little arse-heavy for the range-extender. Power output is rated at 170hp and torque is 184lb ft. BMW claims 0-62mph in 7.2 seconds and a little over 90mph flat out. The motor spins at up to 11,400rpm. Range in normal driving mode is somewhere between 80 and 100 miles. Using Eco-Pro adds another 12 miles, and the same again if you use Eco-Pro+. The range extender is not available at launch, but the nine-litre fuel tank allows the 650cc, 34hp motor to increase range to around 180 miles.

Charging times from a normal plug are around four to five hours, but can be reduced to 30 minutes with a 50kW/h system.

In cutaway form, the first observation is simple: this car must cost serious money to build. Those ally extrusions, the magnesium alloy hanger for the dashboard, the carbon - which is cooked in the US and then shipped back to Europe, the rather lovely aluminium lower suspension arms - all of it yells euros. The tyres are weeny, low-friction Bridgestones just 155 in section and 19 inches in diameter.


BMW will not release pictures of the cabin until 29 July, which is a crying shame because I think it's showroom gold. It re-casts the relationship between driver and controls in the cleverest way I've seen in years. People will sit in this car and want it. You push a chunky rotary control forwards to select Drive and then you roll in near-silence. The gearbox is carried over from the Mini E project, the rest of the powertrain is new.

Acceleration is of a quantity that makes you look at your passenger and grin. With rear-engined traction, i3s will be traffic light hustlers by the end of 2013. The first 40mph feels very brisk, the next 20 less so. I didn't get beyond that but suspect the final 20 might require some teasing. On a trailing, er, throttle, the i3 automatically regenerates bringing added range but also a maximum of 0.166g of braking. BMW makes much noise of how you can learn to coast and drive the car on one pedal. My only observation at this stage would be that the ability to coast tends to be determined by the speed of the traffic around you, and the i3 will be quite out of sync with just about anything else on the road, perhaps making it difficult to perform this trick.

Handling is sprightly and pretty agile, but I just can't tell you much more than that. Our friend from the chassis department confirmed that urban comfort was a priority over outright handling, and that the Bridgestone-only rubber was designed for minimal friction. The car is set to understeer, with the front still clinging on longer than the skinny footprint would suggest. The steering is a completely new electric system, shared with the new Mini, and is accurate and completely fitting for a car which feels too synthetic from behind the wheel.


I think the i3 is a car that will make anyone who drives or rides in it smile. And that probably matters more than anything else. I suspect it might be a little firm on craggy London streets, but on the plus side, I have been assured by the development team that with all the safety systems switched off (sadly not possible in production cars) it will oversteer in the wet. Just thought that needed mentioning.

As you'll read in the launch materials, BMW has effectively launched a whole EV motoring world on the back of its i brand, much of it linked into a SIM card located in the car which can communicate with either a web browser or a smart phone. Given that BMW took the time to actively monitor the behaviour of motorists using EVs with its Mini E program, you can't fail to be impressed by the rigour of its research.

But there are some fundamental aspects of intended i3 usage that bother me. BMW expects 90 per cent of owners to home charge but in a big cities how many people have off-street parking? It also intends to offer a kind of car-sharing service for those wanting to occasionally do a longer journey - the only trouble here is that the i3 is so damn funky that people will want to show it off to their friends. Having an i3 and not using it all the time is a bit like leaving the family hound at home when you holiday - somehow a bit wrong


And the emissions need some scrutiny too. When is the EU going to standardise some kind of lifetime CO2 measurement? BMW claims that the i3's emissions are zero in full electric mode, but they've actually nearer 80 g/km - that being the cost of generating the power you pull from your plug. BMW has cleverly offset the hugely energy-intensive CFRP process for the bodyshell by using hydro power for its plant in the US, but many of the raw materials come from Japan and the parts are then shipped to Europe. The i3 has emitted a fair quantity of CO2 before it even turns a wheel in silence. It makes me wonder if a Mini D, built, bought and used in the UK might still be a slightly greener choice over a 15-year lifetime. Someone clever should do the maths.

And so I find myself reaching the same conclusion with the i3 as I do everything else I've driven with batteries in the past 12 months. I love the way a new technology is forcing engineers to embrace new materials and thinking - the results are fascinating, but they are always blighted by, for want of a better phrase, the electricity itself. The hideous weight of the batteries, the limited range, the lack of infrastructure - I know this will begin to change, but just imagine an i3 with a 1.0-litre, 150hp motor that weighed 750kg and would do 100mpg. With a range of 600 miles. Now that would be something special.

Specialness is something that pervades all aspects of the i3 though. People will flock to it because the cabin, suicide rear doors and packaging are exceptional. It redefines urban chic. That it is powered by electric motors is almost incidental. I'm still trying to work out if BMW intended it to be that way.


SPECIFICATION | 2014 BMW i3
Engine
: electric motor with generator mode
Transmission: single speed, fixed
Power (hp): 170
Torque (lb ft): 184
0-62mph: 7.2sec
Top speed: 94mph
Weight: 1,195kg (1,270kg with range extender)
Range: c. 100 miles (see text for further detail)
CO2: 0g/km
Price: TBC


See the full BMW i3 press pack here - it's not shy on the detail mind...

Author
Discussion

MichelV

Original Poster:

133 posts

152 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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So if this Zero emission box uses 80 Co2 for a full recharge in dino/nuclear/whatever, how much would the same chassis (but minus all the electrical nonsense) equipped with a 4 cillinder turbo charged normal petrol engine use ?

I believe that if one would apply all advanced materials they like to use on these electric cars on normal cars the business case -both economical and environmental- for electric cars would be tazzered into oblivion for the next 20 years or so....

Actually I am sure of it.

wemorgan

3,578 posts

178 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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MichelV: sounds like you're talking about an Audi A2 with a more modern engine. Back in the day the A2 1.2TDi was ~80mpg on the combined cycle.

Putting that aside, the i3 is still a great game changing in my eyes.

g3org3y

20,624 posts

191 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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Intrigued to see the interior now!

SrMoreno

546 posts

146 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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If you're going to count the carbon cost of generating electricity, surely you have to count the cost of extracting, refinining and transporting petrol/diesel in order to get a meaningful comparison.

moribund

4,031 posts

214 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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I'd love a Tesla Roadster myself, but it's going to be a bit academic in about 2 years time when we run out of generating capacity due to fkwitted greenwash.

An electric car is no use when you're having to ration electricity just to keep the lights on at home.

Hellbound

2,500 posts

176 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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I'm actually pretty curious to see how this new range of cars will turn out. I don't really care if CO2's are created elsewhere in the world, the reality is our cities are filthy. I've been living in Central London now for 4 months, and the difference in air quality compared with my home city in Wales is remarkable. Though the taxi's and buses have a lot to answer for. And for the numpty who suggested in a previous discussion that noxious gases travel from factories thousands of miles away to our cities. Er...no they don't.

So what's needed...

A vastly improved charging infrastructure.

Reducing the weight of batteries.

Increasing the range of batteries (this will shut all the naysayers up!)

Lowering the cost of production.

I suspect the petrochemical powers that be do not want the above to happen. Imagine buying a BMW M5 and realising there are no petrol stations for hundreds of miles. You're going to experience a debilitating pang of range anxiety before returning your car to the dealer. This is what we're experiencing with electric vehicles. There is a deliberate, concerted effort to dither when it comes to planning new and unique infrastructure which caters to recharging electric vehicles. Stopping off at a service station for 30mins is something most of us do regularly when traveling. Why is the thought of leaving your car to recharge whilst you take a toilet break and grab a coffee so alien to people!?

And before someone else chimes in and says "Duh...you'll need two cars, one for city driving and one for longer journeys...how on earth is that better for the environment?"
Well, there's a range extender option remember? BUT...in reality you shouldn't even be considering two cars. Compromises should be made. If you want to travel afar, use the train. If you've no need for a city car, again, use public transport and use your petrol/diesel car for longer journeys. No off street parking? Use public transport.

Boris needs to get off his butt and triple or quadruple the congestion charge for dirty vehicles. You need to force people to make a choice.

Hoped there would be a geeky video on this quirky little thing.


melbourne720

40 posts

141 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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Maybe this resonates well in Germany with its energiewende, 22% of its energy coming from renewables - one in every 4.5 miles is driven "ethically" wink

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-2312...

Until we get polymer-based batteries the logic/numbers do favour small petrol/diesel engines in light cars.


strudel

5,888 posts

227 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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It sounds an intriguing car, but given that the engine powers the batteries why have they not opted for a (as I understand it) more efficient gas turbine?

Also driving purely off the throttle is fairly easy - motorcyclists do it all the time smile

I'll certainly go and look at one when available.


Hellbound

2,500 posts

176 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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SrMoreno said:
If you're going to count the carbon cost of generating electricity, surely you have to count the cost of extracting, refinining and transporting petrol/diesel in order to get a meaningful comparison.
As well as the environmental/social cost from beginning to end. Carbons don't tell the whole story.

coffee

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

190 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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SrMoreno said:
If you're going to count the carbon cost of generating electricity, surely you have to count the cost of extracting, refinining and transporting petrol/diesel in order to get a meaningful comparison.
+1

As for the emissions during a lifetime, how the fk are they supposed to work that out? What if your local power supply comes from coal, nuclear or tidal? What if your garage mechanic drives a fking diesel or cycles to work? What if you go through 30 sets of tyres rather than 10? Even if it's even standardised by the EU it will tell you 2/3rds of fk all about the true environmental cost of a car.

I think it's also worth bearing in mind environmental burdens go outside of CO2 emissions. Hypothetically (and I suspect it's actually bks) a diesel might release less CO2 during it's lifetime, but how much st is it throwing into your urban atmosphere? Diesel exhaust particulate is nasty and nano-sized particulate in urban areas has long been established as detrimental to human health. PM10 measurements (used in urban areas to calculate the air burden) are well known to be linked to cardiovascular incidents along with links to immunity issues and cancers.

It's complicated. Far too complicated to just bang on about CO2 or just get a simple numerical figure.

Now I must get back to my 3 litre straight six or my no-catalyst motorcycle... biglaugh


anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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It's safe to say BMW have spent some money on this one. The integration is evident to say the least (take a look at the rear suspension mounts for example).

Although the performance looks to be quite good, the electric motor itself isn't that good (125kW/50kg = 2.5kW/Kg which is poor), although it is not stated what the 50kg of "motor" actually includes)

As the drivetrain is single speed, they have been forced to use a highly Salient Interior Permanent Magnet (IPM) motor in order to deliver a wide operating speed range (using field weakening techniques to extend the peak power operating zone) but again, with a stated max speed at only 11krpm the specific output is only average. However utilizing the reluctance torque in the q axis lifts the motors peak torque value (5Nm/Kg). No information is available yet for the thermal limitations of the powertrain

The battery system looks entirely conventional Lion (not LiPo!) and is again average in energy density (22kWh/230kg = ~0.1kWh/Kg), with the nominal 360V operating voltage being typical and allowing headroom within conventional power electronics thresholds (most power silicon devices (IGBTs) are 600v or 1200v rated, with a 30% headroom for transient over voltage due to stray inductance, that makes approx 400v as a sensible system max for the cheaper 600v flavored devices)
22kWh is a decent sized battery pack, but the info doesn't say what proportion of this is usable (for example the Chevy Volt has 16kWh, of which just over 8kWh are available)

The range extender installation is going to be compromised by not being able to drive the wheels directly with the IC engine. In effect, this "get you home" solution is just that, and will provide a relatively poor efficiency when used (the car is mean't to be an EV really)

Getting the overal mass down towards 1200kg is actually pretty impressive however. Given the battery system mass


So the most important two questions:

1) How much guvnor?

and

2) Are the motoring Journo's going to be able to keep up with the technology involved?? ;-)

Hellbound

2,500 posts

176 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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g3org3y said:
Intrigued to see the interior now!
The spy shots of the production vehicle's interior look very similar to that of the concept.






Rear door arrangement;



Edited by Hellbound on Wednesday 10th July 13:57

kambites

67,543 posts

221 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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The range extender version sounds like another serious attempt at breaking primarily electric cars into the mainstream, which has got to be a good thing.

danp

1,603 posts

262 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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did it really need 19" wheels when keeping the weight down has seemingly been a priority? could i have 13's as an option pls?

NGK210

2,905 posts

145 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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Chris Harris said:
...But just imagine an i3 with a 1.0-litre, 150hp motor that weighed 750kg and would do 100mpg. With a range of 600 miles. Now that would be something special.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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danp said:
did it really need 19" wheels when keeping the weight down has seemingly been a priority? could i have 13's as an option pls?
Going with a large overall diameter wheel/tyre means you can have a largish contact patch despite a narrow section. That way you get good grip but a low rolling resistance. Of course you can have a large diameter tyre with a small wheel diameter, but not if you want to avoid developing your own tyres these days!

Talented009

68 posts

135 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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Now the bmw i7 is a car I really want to see

Kong

1,503 posts

171 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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This is going to sound really un-PH but I can't see why they needed to give it 170bhp? It's a city car with an 80 mile range, surely if it's hardly going to leave the city then 100bhp would be more than enough? In which case they could presumably made it even more 'eco'.

kambites

67,543 posts

221 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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Kong said:
This is going to sound really un-PH but I can't see why they needed to give it 170bhp? It's a city car with an 80 mile range, surely if it's hardly going to leave the city then 100bhp would be more than enough? In which case they could presumably made it even more 'eco'.
That's a very valid point. Does seem a bit odd for this sort of vehicle.

RandomTask

139 posts

182 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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If Tesla can do 200-300 miles (albeit in something that weighs well over 2 tonnes) then I would have hoped that BMW could do better than 80-100 miles, which could be as little as 60 in the winter with light/heater turned on.

Still, my small village in Fife has installed two electric charging points at the train station (yet to see anyone use them in a month or so) so there is hope that infrastructure is slowly getting there.