RE: Don't demonise the Carrera GT: PH Blog

RE: Don't demonise the Carrera GT: PH Blog

Thursday 5th December 2013

Don't demonise the Carrera GT: PH Blog

Harris on the post Paul Walker Carrera GT debate, hypercars and the portayal of fast driving



I am sitting on an Air Europa 737-800, en route to Valencia where later I will be driving the Porsche 918 Spyder. I know, I'm a week late to it, but such is life.

It is a sad and unfortunate coincidence that Porsche should both be launching the effective successor to the Carrera GT in the very week that this gorgeous car has become the focus of anti-speed rhetoric in the aftermath of Paul Walker's tragic death, and also that he was killed in a suburb called Valencia.

Reactionary commentators have blamed CGT
Reactionary commentators have blamed CGT
I try not to become too enraged when newspapers leap on isolated motoring incidents and reach alarming, uninformed conclusions - their editorial output is so vast stories are forgotten very quickly and therefore have little lasting traction - no pun intended.

But during this most recent bout of hand-wringing and misinformation regarding the safety of the Carrera GT I was surprised to see some of my colleagues joining the naysayers; people in my line of work suggesting that the modern hypercar should indeed be banned.

At first I read and ignored some of these comments on Twitter and other fora because I'm probably not going to present myself as the most impartial defender of fast cars being driven fast. But the wider debate was then steered towards the specialist media 'glorifying' the type of driving that had, apparently, caused the sad death of a film star.

So it was really only a matter of time before I was dragged into the debate. And remember, some of these people are motoring journalists. But as some of you know, I find it hard to avoid an obvious scrap.

The initial suggestion from one colleague - I'll stop short of calling it an accusation - was that in driving cars the way I do, that is to say in a manner many owners of such vehicles cannot replicate safely themselves, I am encouraging those drivers to do the same on public roads.

This is of course nonsense. Whether I like it or not, I am in the entertainment business. I can tell you how something drives, I'd like to think I always do so, but my product has to justify itself through volume, and sideways equals more eyeballs. Owners of a Ferrari F12 do not look at me driving it at imbecilic angles - on a circuit I hasten to add - and think 'I can do that on the A420'. They just don't.

'Neither of these cars is dangerous' says Harris
'Neither of these cars is dangerous' says Harris
I also like throwing stuff sideways. Silly, I know.

If an owner does lose control of their car, they do so because they have either exceeded their own abilities, those of the car or, more likely these days, the limits of its electronic safety systems. It is not possible to connect a video of a hypercar going sideways to a crash on the public road. People who choose to own and drive very fast cars do so because they want to experience them. It is human nature to explore the potential capabilities of anything - witness the joyful sensation of exploring the ductile properties of a borrowed BIC biro moments before it snaps in your hand - and fast cars are no exception.

So people will crash these cars regardless of whether I'm celebrating (the Mail would say glorifying) their performance potential.

Because people will always crash cars. And that can be said of all types, regardless of their power outputs.

I don't have the statistics to support the opinion, but I'm very sure that supercars are not more likely to be crashed through operator error than moderately fast cars, or crap cars driven by young people, or rather nice cars being driven by old people. In fact experience tells me that people tend to be slower in this type of car because they are so much more intimidating than your normal fast machine.

Does showing this incite have a go heroes?
Does showing this incite have a go heroes?
Give an experienced driver a new RS4 or a Pagani Huayra, and he'll be miles faster in the Audi dog-carrier. But if he fires the Audi in the shrubbery, it won't find a spot in the Mail or wreckedexotics.com. Confidence, or more specifically over-confidence, is what causes people to crash stuff. I don't know who it was that suggested fitting a large driver-facing spike to the steering wheel of every car, and removing the seat belt, but he or she had a point in the context of slowing drivers. Hypercars intimidate the driver, this makes people drive them more slowly, or makes them experience their performance, and attempt to demonstrate it in a different way, but we'll come back to that in a minute.

The next Twitter accusation was aimed at Porsche, because a well-known legal case in the US found against Porsche in another fatal crash, leading to some people labelling the Carrera GT 'dangerous'. This is so facile a statement I'm not going to bother defending it, save agreeing that out of the box that car can be pretty tricky. But then it has 600hp and is two wheel drive, so what do people expect?

The Twitter debate then tackled the notion of 'too much'. Again, I'm not well placed to judge how much is too much because I don't feel I have the right to decide for other people. I know how much is too much for me, but that's a personal opinion, and the subject is too nuanced because a motor car only delivers the percentage of its performance that the driver's foot demands of it.

My stock reply to anyone who wants to see power outputs kerbed is to ask them to stop and extrapolate that type of legislation into other areas of life: tobacco, alcohol, sex - pretty much everything that separates us from the beasts and makes us smile would be open to restrictive legislation. I don't want to live in that world. As for controlling the drivers' right foot, the only way to guarantee no driver ever oversteps the mark is to stop all humans from driving, a concept which makes me feel rather queasy.

Daily Mail hysteria only adds to mystique
Daily Mail hysteria only adds to mystique
A Carrera GT is a far safer car than a Ferrari Testarossa, despite having over 200hp more. I'd wager that the increase in power over the past decade is more than matched by the improvement in electronic safety systems, brakes and tyre technology.

Next stop for the social media jury was that old chestnut 'less is more'. I enjoy this one because I have personal experience of it. I've never crashed a Carrera GT, but when one colleague wistfully remembered the first Lotus Elise in the context of a purer driving experience that seems to have been lost in the race for outright numbers (an opinion I have much sympathy with), he also used it in the context of safety. As in, with 118hp, everything happens at lower speed. Well, I crashed my S1 Elise at a reasonable lick and, as for active safety, it remains the most treacherous handling car I've driven on wet roads. Next to it a CGT is a tabby cat.

If I don't see any need to castrate hypercars or make them extinct, but I do see one worrying trend. Namely the show-off shunt. Strangely, it comes to pass because of the intimidation factor mentioned earlier; many owners and drivers of these things are scared of properly extending them at decent speeds, so end up in populated areas, attempting to entertain pedestrians. Quite often it ends in tears. It is also completely anti-social and the best way of fostering a hatred of fast cars among the wider population.

How fast is too fast? Ask him in a couple of days
How fast is too fast? Ask him in a couple of days
Modern cars are GPS equipped and have clever ECUs. Why can't they be restricted in urban areas - not totally neutered, but allowed to deliver just enough drama to satisfy the owner, but not enough to cause a shunt?

So where does that leave the 918? I'm not sure. What I can say is that I am less excited about driving a 900hp carbon hypercar from Porsche than I was about having a go in the GT3 earlier this year. That might say more about me than the wider car industry. It might inadvertently suggest that I do have an opinion on the question of what actually is 'enough'.

Hopefully it'll make a decent introductory thought for the first drive report in the next few days.

Chris

 

 

 


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UltimaCH

Original Poster:

3,155 posts

189 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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You hit the nail right on the head. A great write-up and the expression of your opinion and feelings. Bravo!

pagani1

683 posts

202 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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Good blog as usual Chris. I understand newer spec tyres make the Carrera GT less twitchy near the limit and once you get used to the clutch, the car is fine for 95% performance. I suspect the remaining 5% performance would need driving lessons for all owners, as Lewis's dad will no doubt testify-he's doing a lot of that today.

Vladimir

6,917 posts

158 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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My all time favourite hypercar.
Beautiful, compact, slightly old school, best engine sound ever.
Ferraris, Lambos, etc just make my eyes glaze over.
Oh and Chris; you MADE me order an M135i!!

zeb

3,201 posts

218 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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I agree with you chris.....

sadly mate, its not us that need convincing....

zebedee

4,589 posts

278 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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I wouldn't push very hard on a wet road in an Elise, but surely pushing an MGF must be worse? The one make race series was hilarious, watching people just try to get round a corner without a lurid spin, let alone get to the finish line first!

BlimeyCharlie

903 posts

142 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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Rod Hull died as a result of falling off his roof, but I don't hear for there to be a ban on roofs.
Derek Nimmo fell down his stairs, again no stair ban requested.
So even with Rod Hull playing it safe and going for the safe option of a house with no stairs (it was a bungalow) he then fell off the roof.
As soon as you get out of bed there is risk in everything we do.

However, I've never really understood the whole 'sideways' thing myself. I just equate it with pound signs going up in smoke.

Maybe we should ban humans. They are the ones who cause the majority of accidents.
Silly old humans, with their wars and famine and money and cars.
Ban them today.

PaulinhoT

15 posts

171 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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Good words Chris.

GHF1975

16 posts

132 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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Now that was a brilliantly written article.

werzwas

14 posts

187 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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I may never get anywhere near a CGT, but I love the fact that it exists for those with the means to have one.

I was appalled at the general damning tone and sensationalism of the piece in the Daily Mail, that had no relation to anything that I had read in the motoring press since the cars launch. Reminded me of why I try and stay away from that abhorrent publication.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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Can i suggest it is far simpler than that.

two words:

Personal Responsibility


In an age where it is always "someone elses fault", perhaps we should stop lying to ourselves and take a long hard look inwards, rather than getting out the blamethrower and targeting everything except the truth.


The fact of the matter in this particular case, is that Paul Walker was in THAT particular car precisely BECAUSE of its physical characteristics. He could have chosen to simply have been driven home in a Prius for example and be alive today. Yet he didn't. The lure and thrill of a supercar, in conjunction with a driver overstepping their personal responsibility lead to his death.

Nobody forced him to get into that car. He knew the risk he was taking and he chose to do that.


For me, the current trend to have to protect us for ourselves is idiotic and pointless.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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'So where does that leave the 918? I'm not sure. What I can say is that I am less excited about driving a 900hp carbon hypercar from Porsche than I was about having a go in the GT3 earlier this year. That might say more about me than the wider car industry. It might inadvertently suggest that I do have an opinion on the question of what actually is 'enough'

That sums it up for me.

Supercar ownership, to me, is better ownership proposition than a hypercar one.

zebedee

4,589 posts

278 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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BlimeyCharlie said:
Ban them today.
Indeed! The next generation's grandchildren will thank us for it!

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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When the Daily Mail finds out about James Dean they'll crap their pants in rage.

peterbredde

775 posts

200 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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The very first time I drove a mk1 1.6 litre mx-5 I span it going around a tight roundabout. I st myself, but fortunately for me the roads were empty.

It was me that caused the danger, not the car. I had failed to respect the cars very different driving dynamics to the front wheeled drive hatched I had been used to.

The press is always looking for a culprit. Always have done, always will do.

Anubis

1,029 posts

179 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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Anyone attempting to replicate your wonderful side ways tyre smoking stunts on a real road are welcome to collect a Darwin award. Those who would like to try are likely to be in their teens and drive such things such as Corsa's and Saxos, which being front wheel drive isn't going to result in any rear tyre smoke drifting around a corner.

It's the same old arguments all the time - "video games make kids murderers", "fast cars and speed kills" - there is always going to be unfortunate circumstances and there are always those not blessed with thinking. Those with half a brain knows where the line is drawn in the sand therefor do not act on it - that's life (unless you want a death wish of course).

Long may progress continue; it's worth it.

zebedee

4,589 posts

278 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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Rawwr said:
When the Daily Mail finds out about James Dean they'll crap their pants in rage.
That would involve research though. Are they up to it?

TomTVR500

254 posts

161 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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A very well written article Chris. Thanks for essentially articulating my views (and I am sure many others) far more clearly than I would have been able to. I think you hit the nail on the head.

Enjoy the 918 before the fun police call time.

Vladimir

6,917 posts

158 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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I think the alarming thing is how many people are taking any notice of the Daily Fail.

I work in "the industry" and while coverage is useful in it due to a comically large readership, 95% of people don't really listen to what they say.

Rich A

248 posts

159 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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PH Blog said:
Modern cars are GPS equipped and have clever ECUs. Why can't they be restricted in urban areas - not totally neutered, but allowed to deliver just enough drama to satisfy the owner, but not enough to cause a shunt?
Are you really suggesting electronically limited performance based on GPS location? That's not a policy I would advocate.
edit: formatting

Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Thursday 5th December 2013
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BlimeyCharlie said:
So even with Rod Hull playing it safe and going for the safe option of a house with no stairs (it was a bungalow) he then fell off the roof.
Brilliant analogy hehe