RE: Carlimits launches driver training DVD

RE: Carlimits launches driver training DVD

Thursday 17th February 2005

Carlimits launches driver training DVD

Demonstrates driving techniques for enthusiasts


Carlimits has released a new DVD. Called 'Bending the Rules', it's a driver training production aimed at demonstrating phenomena such as slip angles and traction circles. Professionally filmed and edited with 3D graphical illustrations, all the techniques the company covers on its driver training days are there, using both front and rear wheel drive cars.

It has multiple angles optional commentary and tuition on every technique from the basic how to steer through to left foot braking spin control.

Order your £12.99 copy here: www.carlimits.com/shop/catalogue.php?c=6

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Rawwr

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22,722 posts

249 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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I've been on a few of Andrew Walsh's training days and he's managed to turn me in to a driving god. I purchased the DVD just before christmas and it does help to give a deeper insight in to what happens to a car and what you can do to provoke and correct it when you're hooning it around.

Top quality production with lively and interesting comentary from the Welsh wizard himself. The chapter on slip angles is particularly interesting and I find myself watching it again and again.

10 out of 10.

maxf

8,434 posts

256 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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Yep - good dvd, fun courses. Excellent as a follow-up to a training day or as a cure for insomnia

chickensoup

469 posts

270 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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Whilst by DVD collection does tend to favour girls bending over more than cars taking bends, this does take an exclusive place in the reference section (furthest from the tissues)

The inflection and enthusiasm given in the commentary by Mr Walsh is comparable to the best dubbed dialog on europorn. You to can bore your mates rigid by discussing slip angles

RotherhitheRob

1 posts

245 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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Andy runs a great course but it can be too much to take in in one day, the DVD allows you to run through the techniques and the science bits at your leisure enabling things to drop into place (finally).

James Knight

3 posts

245 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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Somewhat sheepishly, I’ve watched this guy play the car field. He drives on the edge, and this DVD spotlights some of his trade secrets. Like a binge-drinker, he does not know when enough is enough – it’s packed with tips and hints. Everyone from your novice track day "Martin", to professional driving "Martins" would benefit from this in his/her collection. Should be nominated for an Emmy Award.

>> Edited by James Knight on Thursday 17th February 15:38

craploginname

362 posts

269 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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chickensoup said:
The inflection and enthusiasm given in the commentary by Mr Walsh is comparable to the best dubbed dialog on europorn. You to can bore your mates rigid by discussing slip angles


What's a slip angle?

Muncher

12,234 posts

264 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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Have just ordered it

havoc

31,814 posts

250 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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James Knight said:
Somewhat sheepishly, I’ve watched this guy play the car field. He drives on the edge, and this DVD spotlights some of his trade secrets. Like a binge-drinker, he does not know when enough is enough – it’s packed with tips and hints. Everyone from your novice track day "Martin", to professional driving "Martins" would benefit from this in his/her collection. Should be nominated for an Emmy Award.

>> Edited by James Knight on Thursday 17th February 15:38

What have you got against Martins?!?

Sooty

326 posts

256 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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I have heard so much about this DVD, but as I'm a pikey Northerner I can't afford to buy it. And before anybody offers to send me one of their knock-off copies that I've seen for 1p with no reserve on e-bay, could you also lend me your DVD player to watch it on.

Then maybe I'll be able to go round roundabouts with the same style and panache as the presenter !!

burt

29 posts

265 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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well, what can i say.....
i havnt bought it..i dont need to.
i have experinced mr. "sheepy" walsh's driving first hand and on the main land.
yes...andy you are a driving god(ess) and i wish i could afford your DVD...once i buy a DVD player
(awaiting my pint of guinness as payment)

yerburty

Don

28,378 posts

299 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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I've ordered a copy.

Looking forward to watching it!

lotuseuropa

1 posts

273 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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I agree with the above. The sleep-angles are very well illustrated by nice animations. Also, the effects of different braking techniques are shown quite clearly by painting the car a different colour with each technique, thus the difference in braking distance is very clear.

grahamw

74 posts

297 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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I have already have the DVD but not watched it in full. I didn't pay much attention to the slip angles. However, after spriting on last Sunday, Andy watched my in-car video clips and mentioned that my slip angles were all wrong. Just need to watch the DVD again and again to understand what they are. A handy reference guide

SilverCat

7 posts

257 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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craploginname said:


What's a slip angle?


Think you might pick up a lot from watching the DVD...

In brief, it's the difference between the direction your wheels are pointing and the direction the vehicle is actually travelling in.

craploginname

362 posts

269 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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SilverCat said:

craploginname said:


What's a slip angle?



Think you might pick up a lot from watching the DVD...

In brief, it's the difference between the direction your wheels are pointing and the direction the vehicle is actually travelling in.


Thanks mate

I presume it applies less to front wheel drive then?

jsr

1,155 posts

265 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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Applies to front wheel drive also.

Been on the course, got the DVD - thoroughly recommend both

Cowboy Fry

1 posts

245 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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Wow Walshy in my living room.

This is THE DVD to get me better.

Go Walshy go!

Don

28,378 posts

299 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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craploginname said:

I presume it applies less to front wheel drive then?


Nope. Identical.

If you imagine a stationary car. Imagine the tyre in contact with the road. Now turn the wheel a bit. Imagine the contact patch staying the same but the wheel moving. The tyre distorts (a bit like an elastic band).

How steering works is by the force of the tyre attempting to return to its proper shape.

Slip angle is (kind of) the number of degrees of turn you can make with a tyre whilst the contact patch remains the same...go over it and the tyre would lose grip and spring back to its usual shape - whilst sliding!

Modern tyres have very small slip angles. Old style rubbery elastic tyres had large slip angles.

The "Track Day Driver's Guide" has an excellent chapter on slip angles - from which my somewhat skewed explanation is derived...

havoc

31,814 posts

250 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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So a slip angle is the level of understeer measured with reference to the tyres*, not the level of oversteer measured with reference to the car?

*Note: Yes, it could equally be oversteer at the wheels in the same measure, but this I think is far less likely.

Don

28,378 posts

299 months

Saturday 19th February 2005
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Just got the DVD. Shows the tyre distortion beautifully.

GREAT DVD. Really good. Every PHers should buy one and watch it. Its not going to do a thing for your road driving....but for track work and understanding how and why your car does what it does when you provide the inputs you do...excellent.

Worth watching many times over - before going on a course with Carlimits (or anyone else) as if the theory is in the brain already then the instructors only have to work on getting the practical aspects going.

Enjoyed it. But it went all too quickly...my criticism is that it could have been longer and even more in depth. But I'm being picky here. Worth the money.