Six points for speeding
Drivers could be banned for breaking limit twice under new proposals
Motorists could be banned from driving for only two speeding offences under new proposals, it has been reported.
If a driver is caught doing 45 mph or above in a 30 mph zone they could get six points, double what is dished out now, and a £100 fine.
According to the Times newspaper ministers are keen to further clamp down on speeding and are prepared to ban drivers for six months even quicker for breaking limits.
It is said that 1.1 million drivers have six or more points on their licences and, under the new law, they would be banned immediately for one more offence.
The new penalties are also believed to be planned for drivers travelling 57 mph or over in a 40 mph zone and 94 mph or above on a motorway.
However the Government is thought to be preparing to drop an earlier proposal to introduce a lower penalty of two points for those travelling at a few mph over the limit.
Jim Fitzpatrick reportedly told the Times that the two point system would undermine the Government’s ‘speed kills’ message.
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If it was 65 or 70 in a 60, yes that's pretty harsh, but 45 in a 30? Tough, read your speedo and slow down. If not, accept the consequences.
Scary one I heard is '31 or over in a 20' At 20 analog speedos are a bit inaccurate - width of the needle on mine covers 2-3 mph. Are lasers accurate enough at 20?
Anyway - it's only a matter of time before we have limiters on cars
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If it was 65 or 70 in a 60, yes that's pretty harsh, but 45 in a 30? Tough, read your speedo and slow down. If not, accept the consequences.
BTW - I know of at least one road on my route to work that is legally classified as a 30mph limit. It's half a mile long - has fields on the right and industrial units set back on the left. I have never been along there at anything like 30mph - and nor have any cars around me - but we would all be banned within 1 day of a journey to and from work.
30mph limits are there for a reason and should be adhered to - but I think that before people start getting sweeping about their statements, it should be acknowledged that not all 30 limits are appropriate for the road.
BTW, this introduction of a 2 point thing - does that mean I will suddenly start getting 2 points for doing 32 in a 30? That is a serious question.
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If it was 65 or 70 in a 60, yes that's pretty harsh, but 45 in a 30? Tough, read your speedo and slow down. If not, accept the consequences.
a) 30mph zones that shouldn't in fact be 30 mph
b) people doing more than 30mph in an area which should be 30mph - built up areas with street parking etc..
as far as b) goes, throw the book at them, ban them and chop their goolies off, as far as I'm concerned.
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Of the two I know which one would be easiest.
Let's consider the far less common senario of, say, a deserted 10 mile stretch of duel carrigeway, that for whatever reason is under a 30 mph limit. You would be tempted to put your foot down, but you aren't going to enjoy the drive any more at 45 than at 30.
Time taken to cover the distance at 45 mph: 13 minutes 20 seconds.
Time taken to cover it at 30 mph: 20 minutes.
So the pertinent question is really, what exactly do you intend to do with the extra 6 minutes 40 seconds???
I actually agree with double the points for 45/30, but the whole set up is chronically wrong.
If you want to dissuade dangerous speeding (i.e. 45 in 30mph zones) then surely the penalty should be higher than 95 in a 70?
After all, 45 in a 30 is generally regarded as dangerous - especially as it's 50% above the limit. Yet 95 in 70 is 33% over the limit.
It only follows the current scheme in it's inequality of punishment. My SP30 was at 97 (IIRC) in a 70 - 27mph over the limit. Which is exactly the same fine/points as I'd have got for doing 57 in 30mph. Which is more dangerous?
I am all for that but shouldn't it be applied to ALL offenders and not just speeding drivers?
I think that if this does start to happen for all offenders i will buy shares in prison construction companies.
Again thios seems to be good at face value but with the complexities and poor running of the speed camera business then its not a really good thing.
For instance -
siting of cameras
appropriateness of speed limits
Information overload due to too many roadsigns etc etc etc
lack of driver training and knowledge
This last one is a good one -- i recently had a call from someone asking about road speed limits - he didnt know what the Nationsl Speed limit sign was and he was middle aged ! I advised him to buy a copy of the Highway Code and read it. ( I work as civvy for police at comms centre)
Let's consider the far less common senario of, say, a deserted 10 mile stretch of duel carrigeway, that for whatever reason is under a 30 mph limit. You would be tempted to put your foot down, but you aren't going to enjoy the drive any more at 45 than at 30.
Time taken to cover the distance at 45 mph: 13 minutes 20 seconds.
Time taken to cover it at 30 mph: 20 minutes.
So the pertinent question is really, what exactly do you intend to do with the extra 6 minutes 40 seconds???
H
What amazes me is how these people can stand up and make speeches damning all these 'anti-social' offences, and commit the self-same ones on their way home .. we are not outraged enough about this hypocrisy!
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