RE: Noble Interview

Monday 19th May 2008

Noble Interview

PistonHeads speaks to new Noble boss Peter Boutwood...


All has been quiet at Noble for a while but big things could be on the horizon. This week PistonHeads caught up with the company’s new boss Peter Boutwood, who told us that the new M600 will be conceptually similar to a Ferrari F40 and should be good enough to take on the world…

PistonHeads: Am I right in thinking that you are running the company?
Peter Boutwood: I am now MD of Noble Automotive.

PH: Who’s in charge of development of the M600?
PB: Our ethos at Noble is very strongly team led. Everyone at Noble is incredibly talented and experienced and has a strong part to play in the development programme.


PH: What has been happening since you took over?
PB: We have made great progress; we are now deep into a test and development programme and have made significant design improvements both to the exterior and interior of the M600.

PH: Is the company in good financial health and will it return stronger than ever?
PB: The company is in excellent financial health, never better. We intend to return with a car that will once more illustrate the fine qualities of a ‘Noble’. A car that rewards the driver without the use of invasive computer assistance, a British sports car that is focused on ‘real’ driving purity…’analogue not digital’.

PH: How far away is the M600?
PB: To be announced. We are determined not be pressured to release the M600 before it has been completely and thoroughly tested.  

PH: Can you give me the specifications?
PB: No detailed specifications at the moment. It will however be a carbon fibre body shell, twin turbo V8 powered, with a six speed gearbox designed and developed for us by Graziano Trasmissioni.

PH: What engine will it have?
PB: Yamaha designed Volvo V8. With twin-turbo development by Motorkraft USA and AER in the UK.         .

PH: What are the performance figures?
PB: More than sufficient!

Noble M600 Prototype Z1
Noble M600 Prototype Z1
PH: What handling characteristics will it have?
PB: The Noble characteristics - predictable, communicative and precise.

PH: Where is Noble positioning itself with the new car?
PB: Those drivers who seek something that is less ‘nannying’, rarer and individual, delivering top supercar performance at a more credible cost.

PH: Who are the nearest competitors?
PB: We do not consider ourselves to have ‘absolute’ competitors, obviously our cars will appeal to those already in the high performance market, however there is we feel no direct comparative car, the nearest we can equate in conceptual terms is probably the Ferrari F40.

PH: Which model would you like to beat?
PB: Everything.

PH: Is Noble one of the last all-British car manufacturers – should we pin the hopes of the British car industry on its shoulders?
PB: We would welcome the challenge; we strongly feel that the release of the M600 will adequately endorse our commitment to continuing British sports car excellence.

PH: Will there be any more models coming out in the near future?
PB: Yes absolutely, however we have no wish to either pre-empt or indeed provoke any further speculation at this time. 

PH: Will there be a convertible M600?
PB: No.

PH: How many cars do you hope to build?
PB: It is our intention to limit production to circa 50 per annum.

PH: Where will the M600 be made and what will it look like?
PB: We have yet to make a firm commitment to the location of the manufacture, although it our intention and wish if at all possible to make this car in the UK. We will have a small photograph of the first prototype M600 on our website very soon. This is not the final incarnation and it is heavily disguised, however the more accurate production visuals will be available after final wind tunnel and climate testing.

PH: How is the parts and servicing working at Noble at the moment?
PB: Really well, we have significantly improved our parts supply and have recently introduced, via our website www.noblecars.com, a Noble owners technical enquiry facility.

PH: Why should people buy the M600?
PB: Where to start? It will be, in our opinion, a car for the driver seeking the ultimate in speed and handling, a car that is fit for purpose, rewarding, challenging and rare.

 

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Discussion

PantsoftheShandy

Original Poster:

950 posts

194 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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Cant wait for the M600!

Did he give any clue to the price?

Snoggledog

7,028 posts

217 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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Obviously not been keeping up but what's happened to Lee Noble?

confused

dodd001

37 posts

212 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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Looks good. I doubt the zebra paint job will be available on production cars though.

kelk

955 posts

213 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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Today the top chap at Novble can be quoted as saying

"The car will be great, when you get it you can see it and agree with us, but we don't know when that will be" repeat ad infinitum.

telecat

8,528 posts

241 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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Hmmmm, looks like Noble has sold it on or some finance bod got involved and some how levered him out. Doesn't look good either way. To most people Lee Noble is Noble Sportscars and despite the mumblings of the new guy the fat He isn't there is going to be a problem. Interesting that the current factory does not seem to be included in the statement. Note that they "wish" to make the car in the UK.

Edited by telecat on Wednesday 14th May 16:53

abdulaziz

656 posts

193 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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I really havent followed the Noble story, what went wrong? Or is the answer to vast!

Altrezia

8,517 posts

211 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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I want a Noble. Oh yes biggrin

Tuna

19,930 posts

284 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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That article's more interesting for what it doesn't say than what it does say. I've also missed some part of the Noble saga - what happened to the M15, where is Lee Noble etc. etc. ?

Stig

11,817 posts

284 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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think the make or break will be the price. Comparisons to an F40 ring alarm bells with me. Whilst Noble have a fair brand, I think they'll struggle to attract a premium price with other established supercar exotica aroud. I would imagine it's going to be in the 150k territory.

MrTappets

881 posts

191 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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Hmmm sounds like the area they are going into with this might be rather close to the Ultima GTR, which was a previous project of Noble's. I can't see how you would go faster for the money and in terms of badge snobbery neither carries much weight for the typical supercar buyer.

Remember seeing the M14 at the British motor show in 2004. With so much development since, this had better be pretty special. I reckon trying to get comfort and quality nailed might have been a batter idea than more speed. Maybe it'll be like an ascari a10 for less money.sonar

MrTappets

881 posts

191 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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"...the Ultima GTR, which was a previous project of Noble's." Hmmm That sounds rather patronizing now I've written it silly sorry folks

dan12

13 posts

194 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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met this boutwood fella a few weeks ago whilst he was viewing industrial units in kent

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

215 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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I've got a feeling in terms of performance it's going to be closer to the Ascari than the F40.
Supposedly 650bhp and 1250kg, so slightly lighter and a bit more powerful than the A10.

Anything anyway near an F40 has got to be worth considering. But we shall see....

dan12

13 posts

194 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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ive heard from a very good source the car is going to cost around 180k
o yes and the boss is a yank named Dyson boutwood is only the yes man. just how many cars has he built ! whats his track record ?

juansolo

3,012 posts

278 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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dan12 said:
ive heard from a very good source the car is going to cost around 180k
Oh dear and Lee Noble is nowhere to be seen.

So this is a new company, that doesn't even make the old, good, reasonably priced, profitable cars anymore is going to make a prototype that the designer no longer has anything to do with their only bet for the future? The marketing drone basically comes out and says 'it'll be like an Elise only better!' and thinks people will pay over £180k for it because it will be like an F40. Err no. Let's face it, you'd buy an F40 if you had that kind of wedge knocking about and wanted something like an F40. You'd also have a reasonable investment that might be worth more than a Boxster in a couple of years.

Interestingly isn't this what ultimately killed TVR, trying to tap into Porsche's territory with more upmarket cars whilst ignoring their bread and butter cars that got them where they were in the first place?

Edited by juansolo on Wednesday 14th May 18:03

FishFace

3,790 posts

208 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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mickken said:
The guy should be a Politician....!
Indeed. Did they interview the PR guy by mistake?


silly chap

157 posts

194 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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well, i welcome the car and im sure it will be very good as a basic performance machine with lots of feedback and basic sports car dynamics which have been lost in recent years.

To benchmark against the F4O i think is also very easy as it is a very basic design which is appealing to the driver and several years later is easy to emulate. No engineering excellence in it compared to the GTR for example.

but i hope that the price is not 100k or whatever with easy dynamics, as if it is it is hard to imagine this car ever being sold outside of its patriotic home market like so many other cars.

what about 40,000 pounds with production moved outside of the uk?

hairykrishna

13,166 posts

203 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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It's cost is going to make or break it, that's for sure. Noble should have gone for the cheaper (elise money) higher volume market IMO.

Instead they're setting up to join god knows how many small car companies in fantasy land. Just because it goes like a Ferrari doesn't mean people will pay Ferrari money.

juansolo

3,012 posts

278 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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silly chap said:
what about 40,000 pounds with production moved outside of the uk?
Weren't the M12 bodies made in Poland or wherever? Nothing wrong with that if it keeps the price down and they still turn out a quality product. What happened to the M12/400 anyway? You hear nothing of it these days. Cracking, cracking cars.

Edited by juansolo on Wednesday 14th May 18:08

juansolo

3,012 posts

278 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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hairykrishna said:
It's cost is going to make or break it, that's for sure. Noble should have gone for the cheaper (elise money) higher volume market IMO.

Instead they're setting up to join god knows how many small car companies in fantasy land. Just because it goes like a Ferrari doesn't mean people will pay Ferrari money.
The production run of 50 cars per year I think firmly puts the price in fantasy land.