RE: Touring Car Battle: E30 Vs E90

RE: Touring Car Battle: E30 Vs E90

Monday 14th July 2008

Touring Car Battle: E30 Vs E90

Two touring cars, one track and 17 years between them - but just how different are they? PH finds out...



Looking at the BMW E30 touring car basking in the June sunshine I can’t help thinking it looks more like a museum piece than a fully-functioning race car. It doesn’t seem that long ago when these M3s were battling with Sierra Cosworths and Cavalier GSis, but in fact they disappeared in 1991, seventeen years ago.


The retro look is not helped by the fact that last year’s 320si World Touring Car, piloted by British driving hero Andy Priaulx, is sitting six feet away from it on the tarmac here at the Pembrey race circuit. Even though they are almost two decades apart the E30 still looks like a useful device but the question is how would it fair head-to-head against the latest BMW touring car?

To find out PistonHeads has travelled to Wales where BMW has arranged for the two cars to get a good thrashing around this 1.456 mile circuit. Before we make any predictions it’s worth remembering that the E30 has more power – approximately 320bhp compared to the E90’s quoted 280bhp – and at around 950kg it is some 250kgs lighter.

So all we need now is a driver that can squeeze every last bit of performance out of these two cars and give us a solid understanding of how they differ on the track. Enter Mr Priaulx, who has just stepped out of a rented Vauxhall Vectra.


He is the current WTCC champion and has taken the afternoon off from his unrelenting racing schedule to fly from his Guernsey home and drive two BMWs around a track. He’s in good spirits and is clearly excited about driving the M3 for the first time so after grabbing a quick cup of tea he changes into his race suit and climbs into the 320si.

You may think that after winning the championship three times in a row, and currently in the midst of another season, he would be slightly blasé about getting into that familiar drivers’ seat. But Priaulx looks enthusiastic and eager to show what the car can do, chatting with the on-site technician about the current set-up.

Priaulx sagely suggests warming the car up before any hot laps, before starting the ignition and wheel-spinning the 320si out of the paddock. As the car screams around the back of the circuit you can hear the sound of a shrieking four-pot bouncing off the trees behind it, before he changes up a gear and gives the engine a moment’s respite.


Priaulx looks like he’s driving at ten tenths as he passes the paddock again, leaving me to think that the car is well and truly warmed up. He pulls in after the second lap and it’s time for me to climb into the passenger seat. If that was his warm up lap I’m slightly apprehensive as to what the hot lap is going to be like.

Priaulx drops the clutch and the E90 fires out onto the circuit so fast that he is using an armful of opposite lock and the car is half on the grass before we reach the Esses. Brooklands Hairpin is taken far faster than I thought possible and now we are hammering along Speedway Straight into Woodlands.


Priaulx applies more opposite lock as we accelerate out of Honda Curve and now I get to experience the savage stopping power of this car’s brakes. They are truly extraordinary, hauling huge amounts of speed off the car, before Priaulx fires it out of Hatchets Hairpin. 

He seems to be fighting with the car and by the time we reach the Esses again he is almost drifting it. Despite, or perhaps because of, the obvious lack of grip, Priaulx is displaying awesome driving talent. Every bend is taken fully committed, with armfuls of lock to stop the car spinning, often with the rear skimming the grass.


It really is an incredible sight and I realise what a privilege it is to be sitting beside him. We pull into the Paddock and it soon becomes clear that something is wrong. The slicks that have been provided haven’t lasted four laps, possibly not helped by the donuts that Priaulx has just done on return to the Paddock. He looks gutted that he hasn’t been able to show me the true potential of the car.

‘I reckon we’re 15 or 20 seconds off what the car could do around here – there was no grip on the back,’ he says disappointedly. Despite this set-back it is time to wheel out the E30. Priaulx tells me that he has always wanted to have a drive in an M3 touring car ever since seeing Steve Soper racing them back in the day.

‘I’m really looking forward to driving it,’ he says. ‘I grew up watching the likes of Soper and I can remember all the names. It’s an absolute honour to be able to drive the car.’


The owner has understandably asked Priaulx to go easy on the car, for the first few laps at least, but he may as well be speaking Russian. Priaulx is one of those racing drivers that doesn’t know the concept of ‘taking it easy’ and even though he has never driven the M3 before he gives it the full beans out of the paddock.

After a lap it looks like he’s been driving it all his life and he looks like he’s enjoying himself. The M3 is an amazing sight and still looks incredibly quick around Pembrey. After a few laps he comes back in. ‘It’s not as twitchy on the limit,’ he tells me, taking a sip from another tea. It feels like a historic car, but a very nicely balanced car though. It’s a totally different feel to the E90, that’s a lot twitchier – the E30 is really easy to drive.’


I climb into the passenger seat of the M3 and we go for a couple of hot laps. It doesn’t feel much slower on the straights but Priaulx is braking much earlier before the turns. The car is a lot smaller and I bang my helmeted head against the door frame a few times as Priaulx throws it into the next bend. We pull back into the paddock and he gives me his conclusions.

‘It definitely smells like a historic car, there were fumes inside,’ he says. ‘It’s got a nice balance though, a nice feeling, but you certainly carry less speed into a bend. I was trying pretty hard but I was losing time when changing gear. It’s a nice handling car but it feels less pointy than mine and the steering is much heavier.


'Mine has power steering and it makes it much easier to correct oversteer.’ He also admits that the power advantage of the M3 didn’t make it feel as quick as it should. ‘I was expecting the E30 to feel a bit more punchy but it didn’t,' he explains.

With decent tyres Priaulx guesses the E90 could take at least 10 seconds a lap out of the E30, maybe more, which is a lot considering a minute lap around Pembrey is fast. Before he leaves Priaulx sums it perfectly: ‘It wouldn’t be quick enough to get anywhere near the back of the WTCC grid today.’

As I leave Pembrey I wonder if in another fifth of a century the E90 won’t know which direction a new touring car went. I’ll let you know in 2028…


Author
Discussion

patmahe

Original Poster:

5,751 posts

204 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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Fascinating to see these two cars comared like this - more stories along the same lines please thumbup

R5GTTgaz

7,897 posts

220 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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article said:
He’s in good spirits and is clearly excited about driving the M3 for the first time so after grabbing a quick cup of tea he changes into his race suit and climbs into the 320si.

Priaulx sagely suggests warming the car up before any hot laps, before starting the ignition and wheel-spinning the 318is out of the paddock.

Road_Terrorist

5,591 posts

242 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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R5GTTgaz said:
article said:
He’s in good spirits and is clearly excited about driving the M3 for the first time so after grabbing a quick cup of tea he changes into his race suit and climbs into the 320si.

Priaulx sagely suggests warming the car up before any hot laps, before starting the ignition and wheel-spinning the 318is out of the paddock.
It wouldn't be a PH article without a glaring error, I'm sure they do it deliberately biggrin

tomTVR

6,909 posts

241 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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Interesting to see how technology has come along bearing in mind only one of them is an M car.

kambites

67,574 posts

221 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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Don't care which is faster, I know which I'd rather be driving. smile

R5GTTgaz

7,897 posts

220 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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tomTVR said:
Interesting to see how technology has come along bearing in mind only one of them is an M car.
They are both more than M cars when in that state of tune.

tomTVR

6,909 posts

241 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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R5GTTgaz said:
tomTVR said:
Interesting to see how technology has come along bearing in mind only one of them is an M car.
They are both more than M cars when in that state of tune.
But a E90 M3 would waste the E30. Not sure if there is a racing version yet though.

BountyHunter

1,050 posts

194 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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patmahe said:
Fascinating to see these two cars comared like this - more stories along the same lines please thumbup
+1

one of the best PH articles ever.
just a shame its not longer.

RosCabezas

118 posts

253 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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BountyHunter said:
patmahe said:
Fascinating to see these two cars comared like this - more stories along the same lines please thumbup
+1

one of the best PH articles ever.
just a shame its not longer.
+2. Loved it

minisloth

365 posts

195 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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Same as what a few of the above posts said, great article and it would be good to see a few more on this type of thing thumbup

Xaero

4,060 posts

215 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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Excellent article, would have been nicer to get more stats and reasons why the E90 was quicker though, stiffer chassis, bigger brakes, wheels, etc.

M6Please

2 posts

221 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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Any one know how to get one or two of these pics as wallpaper of the week, one of the M3 at pace drifting wildly out of a corner would be better than this weeks merc (sorry off subject) But can next weeks be one of these. PLEASE.

Many thanks

PS great story, the man is an unknown hero, cant belive most non petrol heads have never heard of him. +3

PSS bet Schumacher never had to drive a vauxhall to a promo photo shoot. I'm sure someone made sure there was suitable transport available at the airport. Our BMW becoming complacent with there driver. I'm sure someone else would love to steal him from under there nose.

Edited by M6Please on Saturday 12th July 00:27

OllieC

3,816 posts

214 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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modern touring car racing is st

next

minimatt1967

17,097 posts

206 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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Great cars, good Article Amazing driver! I like the E90 320is, but in my books for charachter at least, it can't hold a light to the E30 M3!

Andy Priaulx one of britains most talented driver yet, as somebody said, 95% of the UK population have never heard of him! Sad really...

Titan Simba

18,444 posts

194 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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RosCabezas said:
BountyHunter said:
patmahe said:
Fascinating to see these two cars comared like this - more stories along the same lines please thumbup
+1

one of the best PH articles ever.
just a shame its not longer.
+2. Loved it
And me.

One of the few articles I've read word-for-word all the way through.
Old vs. New RS next please!

VX Foxy

3,962 posts

243 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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Brilliant!

Is that M3 for sale?wink

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

216 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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I'm sorry, but that article is total rubbish. Great idea, appallingly executed.

Some of the writing on this website is shocking (errors notwithstanding) and I usually keep my mouth shut, but this is one of the worst examples. It reads like something a GCSE English student would get a poor mark for: it's clumsily written, poorly structured and the language desperately basic. If I was this journo's editor it would have been redone.

2/10

Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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MrKipling43 said:
I'm sorry, but that article is total rubbish. Great idea, appallingly executed.

Some of the writing on this website is shocking (errors notwithstanding) and I usually keep my mouth shut, but this is one of the worst examples. It reads like something a GCSE English student would get a poor mark for: it's clumsily written, poorly structured and the language desperately basic. If I was this journo's editor it would have been redone.

2/10
I liked it and those above liked it?

Thanks for taking the time to share your views though, i'm sure a plug for your site will follow....

Dubmaster77

172 posts

193 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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Feel free to write your own article Mr Kippling!

I.T.B

5,620 posts

215 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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Thats the thing, people berate PH articles, but could they do any better themselves.

Maybe PH could do a competition for members to write a review of their own choosing, their own car, a race, a comparison.

Might be interesting scratchchin