RE: My First Car: VW Polo G40

RE: My First Car: VW Polo G40

Tuesday 2nd September 2008

My First Car: VW Polo G40

PHer Nathan Millward bought a rare supercharged VW as a cheap runaround. What could possibly go wrong?



It was 2001 and I wanted a Fiat Punto GT, preferably in black with anthracite wheels. It sounds silly now, but at the time I’d consider nothing less. Not even a yellow one. And so, when a friend spotted a rare Polo G40 slumped at the back of a grotty dealership in Harrogate, I really didn’t care. It was black but so what? But then the salesman began his pitch:‘Supercharged 1.3-litre with 113bhp,’(…I was curious). ‘One of only 500 ever made,’ (… interested), ‘As fast as a Punto.’ (… test drive?).

And so off we ripped, returning ten minutes later with the little Volkswagen sold. Sure, the driver’s seat was ripped, it had no service history and the mechanic at the local VW dealer advised against it; ‘too expensive to service the supercharger,’ he said. But by then I was hooked. Forget the Punto, ‘I’ll take it.’

The next night I picked it up with my dad. He wasn’t impressed. ‘Pah, a supercharger,’ he wheezed from the passenger seat, ‘I’ve told you before, there’s no substitute for cc.’To him forced induction involved cigarettes, not superchargers. I didn’t say anything, waiting instead for the road to clear before flattening it in first. By the top of fourth my old man had choked on his Camel and I’d made my point; 8.1 seconds to 60mph. It felt faster.

A shame then that the following week the exhaust fell off, the petrol tank collapsed and the rain flooded the foot-well. ‘Serves you right,’ my dad gloated, ‘too flash for your first car anyway.’ The first two faults the dealer fixed for free, but of the third he simply wiped his hands. ‘Not his problem’, he said, which was annoying, as the water leaked through a hole where the battery tray should have been. Leaking acid was the cause, but ‘not to worry’, the previous owner must have thought,‘I’ll just plug it with cardboard and waterproof the lot with an old carrier bag’. Genius. Until it rained. Which in Yorkshire is often.

For a while I just put up with it, lining the footwell with newspaper and sticking a fan heater under the carpets to blast the moisture away on weekends. But when a date complained of the water deep at her feet I had no choice but to find a fix. At the local backstreet bodge-jobber the man sucked his teeth. ‘I’ll have a go, but it’s pretty bad.’ And so when the car came back still leaking I wasn‘t one bit surprised. ‘More work needed’, he said. More money more like.

And that meant I didn’t sleep well that night. I was worried not only by the leak, but also by the cambelt and supercharger that would soon need attention as well. Best part of a grand I reckoned. Let’s face it; I’d bought a lemon. And so, after just two months of ownership it left me with that all too familiar dilemma - do I spend the cash and keep the keys, or do I clean her up and sell her on? The next day an ad went in the classifieds. It had to go. ‘Sold as seen’.

The first viewer redlined it from cold on the test drive. I felt like demanding the clown pull over and wait for the bus. Or the train. Whichever hit him first. Then a guy from London called. He wanted to know when he could come and collect it, no viewing necessary.

The next week I waited for him at the train station. It was a cold day, raining of course, and I stood there preying for a skinny kid to arrive, someone just as gullible and snivelling as me. But it wasn’t – he was a huge fella who was almost as wide as he was tall.

He spotted the leak immediately. ‘The carpet’s wet,’ he rumbled. I didn’t argue, I just stood there waiting for the pain to flow and my eyes to blacken. And yet the guy cared not one jot. Not about the leak, the ripped seat, nor the hole in the service history. It was to be his ‘project’ car, nothing more, nothing less. And so off he drove, him smiling and me relieved. ‘At last’ I thought, ‘I can now buy that Punto.’

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missing the VR6

Original Poster:

2,323 posts

189 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Funny thing is I had a Corrado G60 which I bought as I couldn't afford a VR6, ended up spending enough to have bought a VR6 Storm just to keep it on the road!

Not the best vehicles supercharged dubs

Altrezia

8,517 posts

211 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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missing the VR6 said:
Funny thing is I had a Corrado G60 which I bought as I couldn't afford a VR6, ended up spending enough to have bought a VR6 Storm just to keep it on the road!

Not the best vehicles supercharged dubs
Where as we've had 3 rallyes, and they've all been bullet proof!

blowy84

544 posts

206 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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missing the VR6 said:
Funny thing is I had a Corrado G60 which I bought as I couldn't afford a VR6, ended up spending enough to have bought a VR6 Storm just to keep it on the road!

Not the best vehicles supercharged dubs
i seem to remember you having a versace? leather interior in a mk 2 golf. am i correct?

pointer78

7 posts

187 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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It's a shame that you had such a bad experience with your G40. I had mine from 53,000 miles right through to 197.000 miles on the original G-Lader serviced once at 120k (VW did not state a service schedule for what was effectively meant to be a sealed unit).
There are some great examples still around and a cult following, sadly a lot of them have ended up being modified badly. It is quite possible to get 160bhp out of the engine with minor modifications, coupled with a 890Kg weight - this is a very quick car and is completely under rated.

The G60 G-Lader charger is larger than the G40 (60mm as opposed to 40mm diameter inlet) and has a troubled reliability score. Mine was in perfect condition internally after 120k.

I really miss this car and most things seem slow by comparison. As standard it is quicker than the G60 Corrado and the engine revs through the range so quickly, it easily keeps up with many larger engined cars on the road. I would have another any day, the bulkhead on mine also rusted through under the battery. Otherwise the bodywork was up to VW's usual standard, i.e no rust after 16years.

Credit must go to VW for developing the ingenious G charger and not using an off the shelf twin screw type?!

hill79

215 posts

189 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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properly maintained the G-Lader is (for its time) a reasonable unit, it just needs a rebuild every now and again to keep it running properly. Hardly ideal but if you're buying something older with a super/turbo charger you have to expect some extra expense!

Getting back to the topic of g40's, its a shame Nathan's was a bit of a shed, lets hope the guy who bought it brought it back from the brink!

BlueCello

6,225 posts

207 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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How on earth did you insure that?? yikes

hill79

215 posts

189 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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pointer78 said:
Credit must go to VW for developing the ingenious G charger and not using an off the shelf twin screw type?!
as big a fan as I am of VW's (2 corrados and a golf gti in my ownership history) and praise their willingness to use slightly out of the ordinary designs (the vr6 for example) the G-Lader is actually based on a french design from somewhere around 1900 (IIRC!)

SS HSV

9,641 posts

258 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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That was a great read, though I thought it was written by the owner first of all until I saw Oli's monica.

Lucky guy for a first car. I really wanted a new Polo L for my first car in 1982 but was told I would crash it. I didn't crash my first car which was an Austin 1300 Estate frown

Oli S

214 posts

199 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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SS HSV said:
That was a great read, though I thought it was written by the owner first of all until I saw Oli's monica.

Lucky guy for a first car. I really wanted a new Polo L for my first car in 1982 but was told I would crash it. I didn't crash my first car which was an Austin 1300 Estate frown
Apologies - my mistake. It was written by the owner, my name pops up automatically on the bottom when I stick it on the page. Don't want to take the credit away from Nathan! smile

Tino

1,948 posts

283 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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I've owned mine since 1999 and love it to bits. I actually owned a MK2 G40 conversion that had its front end rearranged by an idiot in a 406.
Shortly after the accident, I went to southend with my partner on the lookout for a car for her, and stumbled across this very mint Capri Green example. The guy was closing so I left a deposit with a view to return the following weekend. I can remember it being a looooong week.
I don't use it often, and have often thought about selling it, but whatever would replace it would need to be more interesting, and fun, and I simply haven't found the ideal car for the money that the sale of mine would return.
I knew about the battery issues, so shortly after buying it brushed some black gunk under it, which has obviously helped matters. Charger was rebuilt shortly after purchase, which at the time turned out quite expensive, but has been OK for 40k.

pointer78

7 posts

187 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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hill79 said:
pointer78 said:
Credit must go to VW for developing the ingenious G charger and not using an off the shelf twin screw type?!
as big a fan as I am of VW's (2 corrados and a golf gti in my ownership history) and praise their willingness to use slightly out of the ordinary designs (the vr6 for example) the G-Lader is actually based on a french design from somewhere around 1900 (IIRC!)
Yes I have read that somewhere too(see below), I don't think that the technology was around for it to be constructed successfully until VW did?. The G40 sized charger was developed in the early 80's and appeared on the Mrk2 shape Polo with G40 badge, LHD only I think.
This might be of interest:

http://www.polog40.co.uk/article_glader.php
http://www.polog40.co.uk/article_records.php

Oh btw I am a big fan of VW's from the 80's and 90's, feel they've lost the edge lately although the recent GTi was ok

Edited by pointer78 on Monday 1st September 16:09


Edited by pointer78 on Monday 1st September 16:17

hill79

215 posts

189 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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pointer78 said:
hill79 said:
pointer78 said:
Credit must go to VW for developing the ingenious G charger and not using an off the shelf twin screw type?!
as big a fan as I am of VW's (2 corrados and a golf gti in my ownership history) and praise their willingness to use slightly out of the ordinary designs (the vr6 for example) the G-Lader is actually based on a french design from somewhere around 1900 (IIRC!)
Yes I have read that somewhere too(see below), I don't think that the technology was around for it to be constructed successfully until VW did?. The G40 sized charger was developed in the early 80's and appeared on the Mrk2 shape Polo with G40 badge, LHD only I think.
This might be of interest:

http://www.polog40.co.uk/article_glader.php
http://www.polog40.co.uk/article_records.php

Oh btw I am a big fan of VW's from the 80's and 90's, feel they've lost the edge lately although the recent GTi was ok

Edited by pointer78 on Monday 1st September 16:09


Edited by pointer78 on Monday 1st September 16:17
Interesting links, thanks!

IMO VW lost it a bit around the time of the mk3 golf, the 8v GTI I had was like driving with a damp sponge in the suspension and I didn't keep it long - nice otherwise, but hardly a drivers car. I've not driven the new GTI but I think that and the previous shape R32 are the only modern VW's I'd consider.

missing the VR6

Original Poster:

2,323 posts

189 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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blowy84 said:
missing the VR6 said:
Funny thing is I had a Corrado G60 which I bought as I couldn't afford a VR6, ended up spending enough to have bought a VR6 Storm just to keep it on the road!

Not the best vehicles supercharged dubs
i seem to remember you having a versace? leather interior in a mk 2 golf. am i correct?
I had Cristion Dior leather in a H plate Gti.
Who's this?

missing the VR6

Original Poster:

2,323 posts

189 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Altrezia said:
missing the VR6 said:
Funny thing is I had a Corrado G60 which I bought as I couldn't afford a VR6, ended up spending enough to have bought a VR6 Storm just to keep it on the road!

Not the best vehicles supercharged dubs
Where as we've had 3 rallyes, and they've all been bullet proof!
Despite my experiences with a G60, if I could afford to buy and run a Rallye I'd buy one straight away! There's just something special about them.

Edited by missing the VR6 on Monday 1st September 16:31

Negative Creep

24,964 posts

227 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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What on earth was the insurance like?

schuey

705 posts

210 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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I had a white G40 bought it in 2000 and I loved it! I had a mk2 polo breadvan style for my first car and always wanted a G40 but couldn't insure one. I finally spotted mine in a salvage yard,it had been in a low speed pile up and needed a bootlid and front panel £995,an absolute steal as you never see them for sale anyway. I got my neighbour to come with me in my V6 cavalier-he loved it and bought that which saved me a job! I drove the G40 to the MOT man who passed it and I had a week's fun until the supercharger exploded with enough force to dent the bonnet upwards! I couldnt find a replacement but a well known vw specialist in hull (I wont name names but he is a total knobbber) had one and relieved me of £950 for it,knowing full well that vw wanted £1600 for one. rolleyes he wouldnt even chuck in an oil filter.

I didnt mind too much,I just wanted it back and then had 3 years of trouble free fun in it,small pulley and a chip were added for extra 4th gear wheelspin,I once scalped my friends 2.0 16v corsa with it-that was enough for him to sell up and get a Corrado VR6 laugh

I swapped it for a Charade Gtti turbo and a Cavalier turbo and regretted it instantly(although the Charade was fun).
I regeret selling it to this day especially with the price they now fetch,I saw it a couple of years ago,some student to$$er had defaced it with some gay skateboarder stickers and let it get a bit shabby,I offered a deal with my mint Golf gti but he wouldn't have any of it. Shortly afterwards he wrote it off,I was gutted when I found out.

Brilliant cars. cool


mightymouse

1,438 posts

228 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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BlueCello said:
How on earth did you insure that?? yikes
Standard Polo ???????????? LOL

madras

329 posts

209 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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GREAT read! one of the best things I've read on PH recently. nice one smile
And glad you sold it on!

g40_boy

3 posts

187 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Well finally, a topic close to my heart... I'm such a fan of these cars I still have 5, down from the 7 i had a while back!! biggrin

Overall, they're a reliable car, although I'll never forget one night, over 6k on the rev counter in 5th on a dark road in Yorkshire, when the head gasket blew in spectacular fashion!! Still made it the 120 miles home though :S

I had one charger go, but even up til now, it's the most fun you can ever have with your clothes on! wink

Out of all the fun cars I've owned, this is the one I couldn't imagine being without! Top article!

Alex

CrashTD

1,788 posts

204 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Mine is knocking on the door of 300bhp/tonne there is not alot that can touch it. Proper sleeper even in standard guise.