RE: Is this the future of Mercedes-Benz?

RE: Is this the future of Mercedes-Benz?

Thursday 26th March 2009

Is This The Future Of Mercedes-Benz?

Young Merc designers build homage to 1886 Benz



No, this isn’t the illegitimate love child of a penny farthing and a Mercedes-McLaren SLR. This is the F-CELL Roadster, a design study by a group of the Mercedes-Benz trainees.

The unusual styling is a nod to one of Mercedes’ original car designs, the 1886 Benz Patent Motor Car, and combines the familiar modern-day face of Mercedes with cutting-edge 21st century technology. Power comes from a rear mounted 1.2kW fuel cell system, making the F-CELL completely emission-free.

Its young designers have replaced the conventional steering wheel with a joystick to control the F-Cell’s drive-by-wire system, but it won’t be setting any blistering 0-60mph times, though, as its limited to a top speed of 16mph, well within the limit of the extremely narrow tyres. The company also claim it’s good for a 220 mile range, although if you’re going that far you might want to consider something a bit faster.


As you’d expect on an cutting-edge, 21st century car there are plenty of modern materials, with carbon fibre bucket seats wrapped in hand-stitched leather and fibreglass bodywork based on Formula One racing parts.

It took a team of more than 150 junior employees over a year to complete the project, and although it will never see the light of day its good to know there’s an exciting crop of talent waiting in the wings over at Mercedes.

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stuart-b

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3,643 posts

226 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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That could be your SLR courtesy car.

JRM Rossi

702 posts

189 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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lol its needing some wider rubber & mabe slightly smaller wheels? then a propper engine v12 ???

mechsympathy

52,756 posts

255 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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The Article said:
making the F-CELL completely emission-free.
Apart from the enormous amounts of energy used to produce the hydrogen? Seems a shame for PH to be peddling eco-nonsense.

morgrp

4,128 posts

198 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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I managed to find this spy shot of them testing it on the net:


HowMuchLonger

3,004 posts

193 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Surely this is ultra light with little rotating mass; in which case why such poor performance? Or was it simply a design study concentrating on aesthetics?

kambites

67,563 posts

221 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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HowMuchLonger said:
Surely this is ultra light with little rotating mass; in which case why such poor performance? Or was it simply a design study concentrating on aesthetics?
Because it has 1.2kw - that's slightly under 2bhp.

OJ

13,948 posts

228 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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They appear to have confused 'styling cues from the past' with slapping a set of penny farthing wheels on Jean Luc Picard's weekend car

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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kambites said:
HowMuchLonger said:
Surely this is ultra light with little rotating mass; in which case why such poor performance? Or was it simply a design study concentrating on aesthetics?
Because it has 1.2kw - that's slightly under 2bhp.
I think you have about that much power on a tandem with 2 fit people pedaling and you'd certainly do more than 16mph hehe

kambites

67,563 posts

221 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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ewenm said:
kambites said:
HowMuchLonger said:
Surely this is ultra light with little rotating mass; in which case why such poor performance? Or was it simply a design study concentrating on aesthetics?
Because it has 1.2kw - that's slightly under 2bhp.
I think you have about that much power on a tandem with 2 fit people pedaling and you'd certainly do more than 16mph hehe
True, but apparently the tyres can't cope with going faster, which seems a bit odd.

OJ

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228 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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kambites said:
HowMuchLonger said:
Surely this is ultra light with little rotating mass; in which case why such poor performance? Or was it simply a design study concentrating on aesthetics?
Because it has 1.2kw - that's slightly under 2bhp.
Am I the only person that thinks a vehicle pointless which has a horsepower number that could realistically be achieved by attaching horses to the front of it?

A pony would probably have a better power to weight... carbon neutral too

BigI

80 posts

189 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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I think its interesting as a concept, they are not saying that they are going to make it (who would buy it and where would you use it)
I like the design.

mechsympathy

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255 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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OJ said:
carbon neutral too
Don't you start wink

Strawman

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207 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Are those a set of early Alpina wheels?

OJ

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228 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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mechsympathy said:
OJ said:
carbon neutral too
Don't you start wink
Sorry, what I meant was Powwwaaahhhh!!!


Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

234 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Interesting vehicle, but tbh I'd rather just have a good bicycle.

BoxxerUCI

764 posts

187 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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rofl

Looks like one of those soapbox racers!

Arj

557 posts

211 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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OJ said:
A pony would probably have a better power to weight... carbon neutral too
Don't they produce methane? wink

Edited by Arj on Thursday 26th March 12:26

350Matt

3,738 posts

279 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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this took 150 people a year!!!


I hope they were doing something else as well

OJ

13,948 posts

228 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Arj said:
OJ said:
A pony would probably have a better power to weight... carbon neutral too
Don't they produce methane? wink

Edited by Arj on Thursday 26th March 12:26
Well none of the greenies seem to care about cow farts, why would they be bothered by horse farts? hehe

oagent

1,784 posts

243 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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With Merc reliability and a whopping 16mph, it would probably stand a pretty good chance on the London to Brighton run this yr too.

Had this been on sale in 1908 I bet there would have been loads of takers, sadly its about 100 yrs too late.