RE: Volkswagen Golf GTI

RE: Volkswagen Golf GTI

Friday 17th April 2009

Volkswagen Golf GTI

Thirty three years in, does the Golf GTI still have what it takes? Ollie Stallwood finds out.



Tough times lie ahead for the Golf GTI Mark 6 in the shape of some serious competition from the likes of Ford's Focus RS and Renault’s R26.R.

The game has moved, the competition responding to a desire for more hardcore cars, more track focus, and Nurburgring-devouring pace.

VW’s Golf GTI has been around for 33 years and has seen a lot over the decades, meandering through a number of incarnations, some good, some less so.

The MK5 was definitely seen as a return to form but, even with 10bhp more (now 207bhp), it would seem that VW’s latest GTI is either underpowered or doesn’t want to get involved in the hot hatch power struggle.

Although the new 2.0-litre engine sounds similar in spec to the old, this is not the case. It is part of the new EA888 family, a development of the TSI engine, and maximum power comes 200rpm later at 5300rpm, while peak torque is 206lb ft developed from 1700rpm all the way to 5,200rpm. Emissions fall from 189 g/km to 170 g/km and the car will reach 62mph in 6.9 seconds, while the top speed rises to 149mph.


Reports suggest that the MK5 was way too expensive to build, but it was a good car, and in that respect VW can be forgiven for giving us a ‘new’ model that in reality is little more than an extensive facelift. It looks the part with sharp front lights and classier rear units, and overall Volkswagen has attempted to make the car look lighter than its predecessor, with slim side skirts.

Get inside and the size and style of the cabin is familiar but the dashboard is all-new and the seats are supremely comfortable, working with the excellent adjustable wheel to create the perfect driving position. It’s a new but familiar place, and works well without filling you with awe and wonder. Hopefully the driving experience will throw up a few surprises…

At first it doesn’t, the new car behaving in much the way you would expect. It is refined, this time even more so, thanks to a number of changes to improve aerodynamics and reduce wind noise.

But peeling off from the centre of Nice, where the car was launched, and on to the winding roads heading to St Tropez the first difference becomes obvious. The noise. There may have been a few woeful expressions at Wolfsburg when the GTI’s trademark twin pipes to the left were dropped for one on each side, but who cares?


The old GTI used to sound a little flat, the noise in the cabin overpowered by a dry four-cylinder drone. The new car is completely different, the exhaust emitting an addictive howl to accompany the induction growl.

Sadly this means that VW’s efforts to make the car more fuel efficient (38.7 combined compared to 35.3mpg) is now counteracted by the temptation to drive down the motorway in fourth gear. It may not be as exciting as the whooshes and growls coming out of a Focus RS, but there is something distinctly purposeful about this Golf’s new sound.

Another thing that has been improved is throttle response. VW may have learnt a thing or two from the MINI Cooper by developing a turbocharged engine that has almost no lag, and the Golf responds instantly to throttle input.

The power delivery is linear and the gear ratios are well matched too. Match this willing nature to the tuneful pipes and you can't help but ring the 2.0-litre out for everything it has got.


One new addition to the GTI is the ACC adaptive chassis control system, featuring pneumatically controlled damper units. These dampers, which are also seen in the Scirocco, now come as standard on the GTI. There are three settings ­Comfort, Sport, and adaptive. The first two will override the system, and while the first does what it says on the tin, the Sport mode is probably best suited to a track.

The adaptive setting is exceptional, giving the GTI superb composure on any surface we encountered. The car refused to become unsettled under braking and body control is excellent. There is also an optional electronic differential which helps reign in torque steer and tighten the line during hard cornering.

If at first the Golf appears to lack sparkle, especially compared to the hardcore nature of the Focus RS, you soon warm to the car. On day two of our test we came across a deserted section of road and learned that working the GTI hard is where it transforms from a refined, comfortable hatchback to something akin to the old school GTI. Finding the speed, not trying to hold it back, is what the car is all about and for the first time the yearning for more power evaporates.

You need to stretch the car and suddenly the modest power makes more sense. Getting the best out of it gives an enormous sense of satisfaction and throws up an engaging side to the GTI you didn’t think existed.


Then, without missing a beat the Golf settles back into its previous role and trundles along with the engine barely audible. This is the GTI’s strength, its ability to be everything to every man, a family car with a huge boot at one point, a mile-muncher another, and a hooligan if you want it to be.

The original Golf GTI from 1976 was designed to be comfortable, practical and fast. This is exactly what the latest Golf GTI delivers in 2009, so while the competition moves on it seems that Volkswagen is sticking successfully to its original niche.

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Discussion

Targarama

Original Poster:

14,635 posts

283 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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I much prefer the looks of our MKV Golf GTi - both inside and out. Park a MKV and MKVI together and the MKV looks much nicer.

Pow!

3,296 posts

186 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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207bhp?

seems a bit, well gay doesnt it?

Baffled Spoon

5,250 posts

194 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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The front and interior of the mkvi are now much better but the rear on all mkvi's is awful imo. The toureg (spl?) style lights don't suit the car and I'm not convinced by the marketing department spec twin tailpipes on the gti either. Much better the way it was before with a twin backbox (also this option was the preffered choice of the development engineers).

blank

3,452 posts

188 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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I like it.

If anyone wants to buy one in white with DSG, 18s, leather and some other nice options I'll happily take it off them in a couple of years time!

Tycho

11,568 posts

273 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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Seems like the marketing/finance people are going for the more mature/boring market rather than the hardcore market who will snap up the Focus RS.

brickwall

5,236 posts

210 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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blank said:
I like it.

If anyone wants to buy one in white with DSG, 18s, leather and some other nice options I'll happily take it off them in a couple of years time!
+1

If only I could insure it...

R32UK

151 posts

181 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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Everyone in the know, knows that the Gti wont be the range topper. The new engine with a k04 turbo will punch well above its weight if required.

There are many MKV ED30's rolling about with 300bhp. with just a remap and exhaust. RS owners you have been warned wink


  • now editted... sticky keys you all know how it is biggrin
Edited by R32UK on Thursday 16th April 19:09

poing

8,743 posts

200 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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I think it's a great all round car with enough performance and practicality to make a good car for crawling to work half asleep and then coming home on the b-road with a little more enthusiasm.

I just wish the review would stop mentioning the Focus RS because that is not it's natural competitor, the ST is much closer in character, spec and price.

Defcon

1,211 posts

190 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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R32UK said:
Everyone in the know, knows that the Gti wont be the range topper. The new engine with a k04 turbo will punch well above its weight if required.

There are many MKV ED30's rolling about with 30bhp. with just a remap and exhaust. RS owners you have been warned wink
Warned that their BHP may be stolen as well?

Edited for thread relevancy: It is by far the blandest of the next gen hot hatches, and not in a fetching, stealthy 'Q' car way, but in a Korean MPV kind of way.

Edited by Defcon on Thursday 16th April 19:02

ocrx8

868 posts

196 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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Not convinced by the lights or the exhausts, but I certainly wouldn't say no wink

fathomfive

9,915 posts

190 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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R32UK said:
Everyone in the know, knows that the Gti wont be the range topper. The new engine with a k04 turbo will punch well above its weight if required.

There are many MKV ED30's rolling about with 30bhp. with just a remap and exhaust. RS owners you have been warned wink
Only 30bhp?

Alfanatic

9,339 posts

219 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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R32UK said:
Everyone in the know, knows that the Gti wont be the range topper. The new engine with a k04 turbo will punch well above its weight if required.

There are many MKV ED30's rolling about with 30bhp. with just a remap and exhaust. RS owners you have been warned wink
30bhp is an impressive output for just a remap and an exhaust but rubbish for a GTI. Or any car really. Now I wonder how much power they would have if they added an engine too? scratchchin

R32UK

151 posts

181 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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lol .... now changed.

But there are many out there even pushing a whopping 350bhp. Awsome straight line speed, not so great on the bends unfortunately. The point is that the 2.0TFSi engine has massive tunning potential... just a matter of time before VW decide what to do to showcase this.

swamp

993 posts

189 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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poing said:
I think it's a great all round car with enough performance and practicality to make a good car for crawling to work half asleep and then coming home on the b-road with a little more enthusiasm.

I just wish the review would stop mentioning the Focus RS because that is not it's natural competitor, the ST is much closer in character, spec and price.
No. The ST is close in character, but is well specced and cheap. OTOH the GTI Mk6 + options will be the same price (or more) as the Focus RS.

I love the Mk6 GTI but I've got to say it is very over priced, especially as it was designed to be cheaper to build than the Mk5.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

187 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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The Ikea sofabed of the motoring world goes from strength to strength is seems.

Makes more sense for a private buyer than a diesel hatch as far as I can see.

Rocky Balboa

1,308 posts

200 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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Too fat. Too heavy. Slower than the previous model. Awful.


When the fk are these cars going to start losing weight! Pisses me off!

Motorrad

6,811 posts

187 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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Rocky Balboa said:
Too fat. Too heavy. Slower than the previous model. Awful.


When the fk are these cars going to start losing weight! Pisses me off!
I hate to spoil a half baked rant by mentioning the facts but isn't this car faster than the previous one to 60 and has a higher top speed.

Won't argue that cars these days are too heavy but people do seem to like their safety features and creature comforts.

Alonso Fan

37 posts

180 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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I like it !!!

Sam.F

1,144 posts

200 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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I like the look of it but think the new "R" version (I heard it will be a more powerful version of the 2.0 turbo rather than a V6 this time, is this correct?) will be much more interesting...

SEN 18

1,247 posts

212 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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So glad the wife bought the last red R32 MK5 that came into the UK it will take some replacing thats for sure.