RE: Gone In 60 Seconds

Wednesday 3rd June 2009

Gone In 60 Seconds

Part 3 of V8mate's guide to the auction scene



If you enjoy going to motorsport events, the sound of the cars starting up always gets the hairs on the back of your neck tingling. Whether it’s your first time or you’re an old hand, the thrill of hearing the motors leap into life is always one of the highlights of the day.

Having filled your belly with tea and watched the cars start to stream through the auction hall, you’ll start to feel the first butterflies in your stomach as the first car on your short-list gets closer in the running order. You have given the exterior a good going over, peered through the glass but now you want to see and hear some evidence of its mechanical competence. So you leave the hall, go back out into the lot and wait for its driver to turn up.

Does it open with a blip of the key-fob or is the driver struggling to get a dead car open? You ask the friend who has accompanied you to stand strategically at the rear of the car to see what might splutter its way out of the exhaust and wait on tenterhooks as the driver starts the car, your eyes fixed on the dash, watching all of the system lights go out and the vehicle settle to tick over.

Your stomach settles a little. The car has started cleanly and promptly; no untoward rattles, noises or emissions. But you know that you have little more than two minutes between this vehicle sitting out in the quiet of the yard and it coming before the auctioneer. As it pulls away to join the queue for the auction hall you start to make your way methodically round. Each time it stops, you open a door or the boot or the glove-box, looking for marks, stains, rust; anything for a clue of a shadowy past. You dig under the boot carpet, searching for the spare wheel and checking around its holder for any sign of repaired damage.

Then you’re back with the driver. Is the engine management light on or off? If it’s on, what’s the cause? Does the system just need a reset or is it hinting at painful bills to come? You have to condense every question you might ask in an hour buying a car privately into two minutes; and there’s only you providing the answers. How do the professionals do it? Many of them never leave the auction hall; they make their mind up walking round each car just once!


Your car is now a mater of seconds from demanding its sixty seconds from the auctioneer. Convinced you’ve found exactly what you’ve been looking for, you watch the few cars ahead of yours go through. But what on earth is the auctioneer saying? You can barely understand a word!

Regular auction-goers will soon pick-up each individual auctioneer’s phrases and nuances. As an occasional buyer you need to be absolutely on your guard. They will start with a brief summary of the vehicle and then ask ‘Who’ll give me £x,000 for this car?’ What seems like an honest question on the face of it can be a pit ready for you to fall into. Some auctioneers will use that question to propose a sensible starting price. This can often save time as an experienced buyer will immediately respond with an acknowledging bid. Other auctioneers will pitch that suggested start price at anywhere between the vendor’s reserve, so the likely end-point of all bids, right out to the retail value of the car or beyond.  Hopefully you will have done some homework regarding the price of cars you favour but, whatever you do, don’t dive in to bidding; let someone else make the opening bid. If it’s more than you wanted to pay, you haven’t lost anything anyway.

Now, you may have thought that once an opening bid, or even several, have been made, that it’s safe to join the throng. Shockingly, it is still not uncommon for auctioneers to engage in ‘bidding off the wall’. They will start to rattle off bids as if the car is very popular; the process designed to snare people into bidding who are either not concentrating on the auctioneer or who are nervous and don’t want to miss out on a car which is bid and then sold in short order. If you are attending with a friend, get them stand across the car from you and when bidding starts, the two of you should scan the hall to identify who is bidding. If the auctioneer has genuine bid interest he will look and point at each person who bids; use that to spot the ‘competition’.

So your car is next up. You’ve checked it out, you’ve decided on the maximum you’ll pay for it and you’re ready to deal with the auctioneer. Next week, we’ll look at the possible sale outcomes of your chosen lot, methods of deciding how much to pay and one way of bagging a bargain which the trade may steer clear of.

This week’s auction price list (see thread below) is an example of a major clearance by two manufacturer’s finance arms: BMW/MINI and Mercedes/Smart. With 250 prices, it will hopefully represent a major snapshot of these marques which are ever popular with PHers and, given the impact on prices, colours have been included this week too. Bear in mind that the vast majority of these, especially those under 3 years old, will have been purchased by main dealers, hence the high prices. So don’t be surprised if you can find the odd cheaper example on Autotrader. The BMW/MINI entries were almost all valeted to BMW retail standards and dealers will improve their margin on each car through BMW (UK) bonuses for selling them through the ‘Approved Used’ scheme.

Part one can be found here

Part two can be found here

Author
Discussion

SiMan

Original Poster:

407 posts

187 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Year Plate Make Model Detail Colour Mileage Price Status
2006 06 BMW 116i ES 5dr Jet Black 23k 7400 SOLD
2007 07 BMW 116i SE 5dr Jet Black 26k 9100 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 116i ES 5dr Titanium Silver 18k 8300 SOLD
2005 55 BMW 118D SE 5dr Sparkling Graphite 24k 8300 SOLD
2005 55 BMW 118D SE 5dr Sparkling Graphite 28k 8200 SOLD
2005 55 BMW 118D Sport 5dr Sparkling Graphite 26k 8100 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 118D Sport 5dr Titanium Silver 21k 10300 SOLD
2006 55 BMW 118D Sport 5dr Havanna Met 26k 8100 SOLD
2006 55 BMW 118D Sport 5dr Sparkling Graphite 31k 9600 SOLD
2006 55 BMW 118D SE 5dr Titanium Silver 22k 9300 SOLD
2007 07 BMW 118D SE 3dr Black Sapphire 21k 12100 SOLD
2007 57 BMW 118D SE 5dr Titanium Silver 11k 12400 SOLD
2005 55 BMW 118i ES 5dr Titanium Silver 24k 7400 SOLD
2006 55 BMW 118i Sport 5dr Monaco Blue 44k 8100 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 118i SE 5dr Sydney Blue 18k 8700 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 118i Sport 5dr Sparkling Graphite 15k 9600 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 118i ES Step Auto 5dr Japan Red 6k 9600 SOLD
2005 05 BMW 120D ES 5dr Sydney Blue 15k 8400 SOLD
2005 55 BMW 120D SE 5dr Step Auto Black Sapphire 27k 9400 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 120D SE 5dr Sparkling Graphite 27k 9700 SOLD
2007 07 BMW 120D M Sport 5dr Sparkling Graphite 37k 13200 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 120i SE Step Auto 5dr Sparkling Graphite 16k 11000 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 130i M Sport 5dr Black Sapphire 34k 13000 SOLD
2003 53 BMW 318CI Sport Coupe Orient Blue 28k 8500 SOLD
2005 05 BMW 318CI Sport Convertible Sparkling Graphite 27k 12800 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 318CI M Sport Convertible (old shape) Sparkling Graphite 26k 14000 SOLD
2007 07 BMW 318D ES 4dr Jet Black 50k 9800 SOLD
2006 56 BMW 318D M Sport Touring Le Mans Blue 44k 14000 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 318i ES 4dr Mystic Blue 41k 9800 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 318i ES 4dr Titanium Silver 31k 9300 SOLD
2006 56 BMW 318i ES 4dr Titanium Silver 50k 9100 SOLD
2004 53 BMW 320D ES Estate Titanium Silver 101k 4000 SOLD
2005 05 BMW 320D SE 4dr Monaco Blue 34k 9500 SOLD
2005 55 BMW 320D SE Auto 4dr Black Sapphire 27k 11600 SOLD
2005 55 BMW 320D M Sport Auto 4dr Le Mans Blue 23k 14200 SOLD
2005 55 BMW 320D SE 4dr Black Sapphire 23k 11500 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 320D SE 4dr Sparkling Graphite 61k 9700 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 320D SE Auto 4dr Sparkling Graphite 26k 12400 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 320D M Sport 4dr Sparkling Graphite 51k 12800 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 320D M Sport 4dr Black Sapphire 33k 13300 SOLD
2006 56 BMW 320D SE 4dr Sonora 58k 10100 SOLD
2006 56 BMW 320D ES 4dr Arctic Metallic 19k 11000 SOLD
2006 56 BMW 320D SE 4dr Mystic Blue 20k 12000 SOLD
2007 07 BMW 320D SE Auto 4dr Titanium Silver 28k 14800 SOLD
2007 57 BMW 320D SE Coupe Titanium Silver 8k 17700 SOLD
2007 57 BMW 320D SE Coupe Space Grey 12k 17700 SOLD
2008 08 BMW 320D SE Coupe Sparkling Graphite 9k 18800 SOLD
2008 08 BMW 320D SE Coupe Titanium Silver 11k 18500 SOLD
2005 55 BMW 320i SE 4dr Titanium Silver 50k 8200 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 320i M Sport 4dr Le Mans Blue 11k 14100 SOLD
2007 07 BMW 320i SE Auto 4dr Sparkling Graphite 20k 12500 SOLD
2007 07 BMW 320i M Sport Coupe Black Sapphire 30k 17200 SOLD
2008 08 BMW 320i SE Coupe Sparkling Graphite 8k 17300 SOLD
2007 57 BMW 320i M Sport Step Auto Convertible Crimson Red 15k 24200 SOLD
2008 08 BMW 320i M Sport Convertible Le Mans Blue 12k 24900 SOLD
2008 08 BMW 320i SE Convertible Black Sapphire 7k 21800 SOLD
2008 08 BMW 320i SE Convertible Platinum Bronze 10k 23600 SOLD
2002 52 BMW 325CI Auto Convertible Titanium Silver 41k 10200 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 325CI SE Auto Coupe (old shape) Silver Grey 12k 12500 SOLD
2005 55 BMW 325CI M Sport Auto Convertible Jet Black 22k 16200 SOLD
2006 56 BMW 325i SE Touring Titanium Silver 32k 14700 SOLD
2006 56 BMW 325i SE Auto 4dr Deep Green 19k 14800 SOLD
2007 07 BMW 325i SE Coupe Sparkling Graphite 19k 16400 SOLD
2005 55 BMW 325i SE Auto Touring Titanium Silver 35k 13500 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 325i M Sport Auto Touring Titanium Silver 11k 20300 SOLD
2005 55 BMW 325i SE Auto Touring Sparkling Graphite 18k 15200 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 330CD M Sport Convertible Sparkling Graphite 34k 16800 SOLD
2003 53 BMW 330CI Sport Auto Coupe Black Sapphire 38k 9800 SOLD
2002 52 BMW 330CI Sport Auto Convertible Topaz Blue 34k 11000 SOLD
2005 05 BMW 330CI Sport Convertible Black Sapphire 15k 15400 SOLD
2005 55 BMW 330D M Sport 4dr Le Mans Blue 26k 15300 SOLD
2007 07 BMW 330D SE Coupe Black Sapphire 18k 17200 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 330D SE 4dr Sparkling Graphite 54k 11000 SOLD
2007 07 BMW 335D M Sport Auto Touring Black Sapphire 28k 22000 SOLD
2005 55 BMW 520D SE 4dr Silver Grey 38k 10900 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 520D M Sport Auto 4dr Mystic Blue 14k 18800 SOLD
2007 07 BMW 520D SE 4dr Black Sapphire 18k 16200 SOLD
2007 07 BMW 520D M Sport 4dr Jet Black 54k 14900 SOLD
2007 57 BMW 520D SE 4dr Platinum Grey 16k 18700 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 520D SE Touring Mystic Blue 45k 12100 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 520D M Sport Touring Carbon Black 28k 16600 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 520D SE Touring Jet Black 27k 15200 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 520D SE Touring Titanium Silver 33k 14800 SOLD
2005 55 BMW 525D SE 4dr Amethyst Grey 44k 10400 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 525D M Sport Auto Saloon Carbon Black 20k 16900 SOLD
2008 08 BMW 525D M Sport Step Auto 4dr Carbon Black 29k 24700 SOLD
2004 54 BMW 530D SE Auto 4dr Black Sapphire 36k 12000 SOLD
2006 56 BMW 530D M Sport Auto 4dr Silver Grey 46k 18800 SOLD
2006 56 BMW 530D M Sport Auto 4dr Titanium Silver 42k 17900 SOLD
2004 04 BMW 530i SE Auto 4dr Titanium Silver 26k 9700 SOLD
2005 05 BMW 535D Sport Auto 4dr Carbon Black 20k 18800 SOLD
2007 07 BMW 535D M Sport Auto Saloon Deep Sea Blue 15k 22800 SOLD
2005 05 BMW 630i Auto Coupe Stratus Grey 30k 19200 SOLD
2007 07 BMW 630i Sport Auto Coupe Black Sapphire 6k 29000 SOLD
2005 05 BMW 630i Auto Convertible Mineral Silver 21k 21300 SOLD
2005 55 BMW 630i Auto Convertible Mystic Blue 33k 23000 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 630i Sport Auto Convertible Black Sapphire 18k 28200 SOLD
2005 55 BMW 645CI Auto Coupe Black Sapphire 13k 22300 SOLD
2006 06 BMW 650i Sport Auto Coupe Blue Onyx (Indv.) 54k 22000 SOLD
2005 05 BMW 730D SE 4dr Auto Titanium Silver 56k 13400 SOLD
2005 55 BMW 730D Sport Auto Saloon Monaco Blue 19k 18700 SOLD
2006 56 BMW 730D Sport Auto Saloon Titanium Silver 36k 20000 SOLD
2006 56 BMW 730D Sport Auto Saloon Sterling Grey 41k 19400 SOLD
2007 07 BMW 730D SE Auto (new wheels + tyres) Black Sapphire 15k 23800 SOLD
2007 07 BMW 730D Sport Auto Saloon Black Sapphire 24k 21000 SOLD
2007 07 BMW 730D SE Auto Saloon Black Sapphire 15k 22900 SOLD
2007 56 BMW 730D SE Auto Saloon Black Sapphire 10k 21000 SOLD
2008 08 BMW 730D SE Auto Saloon Black Sapphire 4k 26800 SOLD
2006 56 BMW 730LD SE Auto LWB Saloon Black Sapphire 24k 20600 SOLD
2007 57 BMW 730LD SE Auto LWB Saloon Black Sapphire 30k 25900 SOLD
2006 56 BMW 730LI SE Auto LWB Saloon Sterling Grey 9k 22100 SOLD
2006 56 BMW 740i Auto Saloon Monaco Blue 8k 21200 SOLD
2006 06 BMW M3 CS Coupe Interlagos Blue 34k 23300 SOLD
2004 54 BMW X3 2.5i Sport Auto Black Sapphire 46k 11300 SOLD
2005 05 BMW X3 2.5i Sport Auto Silver Grey 45k 10900 SOLD
2005 55 BMW X3 3.0d M Sport Auto Black Sapphire 25k 17200 SOLD
2005 55 BMW X3 2.0D M Sport Black Sapphire 40k 14600 SOLD
2006 06 BMW X3 2.0D SE Flamenco Red 24k 14200 SOLD
2006 06 BMW X3 3.0d M Sport Auto Mystic Blue 29k 15900 SOLD
2006 06 BMW X3 2.0D Sport Silver Grey 20k 16100 SOLD
2006 06 BMW X3 2.0D Sport Titanium Silver 27k 15000 SOLD
2007 07 BMW X3 2.0D SE Titanium Silver 27k 15800 SOLD
2007 07 BMW X3 2.0D M Sport Jet Black 16k 17400 SOLD
2003 53 BMW X5 3.0d Sport Auto Titanium Silver 72k 12200 SOLD
2004 04 BMW X5 3.0d Sport Auto Black Sapphire 70k 14400 SOLD
2005 05 BMW X5 3.0d Sport Auto Sterling Grey 54k 17100 SOLD
2005 05 BMW X5 3.0d Sport Auto (no nav) Sterling Grey 38k 15900 SOLD
2005 05 BMW X5 3.0d Sport Auto Black Sapphire 28k 18800 SOLD
2005 55 BMW X5 3.0d SE Auto Sterling Grey 42k 19900 SOLD
2006 06 BMW X5 3.0d Sport Auto Black Sapphire 43k 17900 SOLD
2006 06 BMW X5 3.0d Sport Auto Titanium Silver 37k 17200 SOLD
2006 56 BMW X5 3.0d Sport Auto Titanium Silver 39k 18300 SOLD
2007 57 BMW X5 3.0d SE Auto (new shape) Black Sapphire 31k 28000 SOLD
2007 57 BMW X5 3.0d M Sport Auto (new shape) Carbon Black 20k 33400 SOLD
2003 03 BMW Z4 2.5i Roadster Sterling Grey 37k 9200 SOLD
2004 04 BMW Z4 2.2i SE Roadster Titanium Silver 32k 10600 SOLD
2004 04 BMW Z4 2.5i SE Roadster Black Sapphire 26k 10800 SOLD
2005 05 BMW Z4 3.0i SE Roadster Sterling Grey 32k 12400 SOLD
2005 55 BMW Z4 2.0i SE Roadster Titanium Silver 40k 10900 SOLD
2006 55 BMW Z4 2.0i SE Roadster Black Sapphire 20k 12600 SOLD
2006 56 BMW Z4 3.0SI Sport Roadster Midnight Blue 24k 15800 SOLD
2006 56 BMW Z4 3.0SI Sport Auto Roadster Midnight Blue 11k 19100 SOLD
2006 56 BMW Z4 3.0SI SE Roadster Silver Grey 5k 16900 SOLD
2007 56 BMW Z4 2.5SI Sport Roadster Monaco Blue 12k 17200 SOLD
2007 57 MINI Clubman 1.6 Cooper (CHILI + TLC) Lightning Blue 26k 10300 SOLD
2005 55 MINI One 1.6 3dr (TLC) Liquid Yellow 33k 6000 SOLD
2006 06 MINI One 1.6 3dr (TLC) Astro Black 18k 7400 SOLD
2006 06 MINI One 1.6 3dr (Pepper + TLC) Astro Black 28k 8000 SOLD
2005 55 MINI One 1.6 3dr (Pepper + TLC) Pepper White 17k 8000 SOLD
2006 55 MINI One 1.6 Convertible (SALT + TLC) Hot Orange 28k 8400 SOLD
2006 06 MINI One 1.6 Convertible (Pepper + TLC) Hyper Blue 15k 9800 SOLD
2006 56 MINI One 1.6 Convertible (Pepper + TLC) Pepper White 23k 10700 SOLD
2004 54 MINI Cooper 1.6 3dr (CHILI + TLC) Black II 39k 6800 SOLD
2006 06 MINI Cooper 1.6 3dr (CHILI + TLC) Hyper Blue 32k 9000 SOLD
2006 06 MINI Cooper 1.6 3dr (CHILI + TLC) Astro Black 43k 8300 SOLD
2006 06 MINI Cooper 1.6 3dr (Pepper + TLC) Pure Silver 24k 8500 SOLD
2006 06 MINI Cooper 1.6 3dr (CHILI + TLC) Astro Black 31k 8800 SOLD
2007 07 MINI Cooper 1.6 3dr (TLC) Astro Black 12k 9400 SOLD
2007 07 MINI Cooper 1.6 3dr (TLC) Astro Black 15k 9300 SOLD
2007 07 MINI Cooper 1.6 3dr Auto n/s (CHILI + TLC) Pepper White 14k 12800 SOLD
2007 57 MINI Cooper 1.6 3dr Astro Black 13k 9900 SOLD
2007 57 MINI Cooper 1.6 3dr (TLC) Astro Black 15k 9400 SOLD
2005 55 MINI Cooper 1.6 Convertible (Pepper + TLC) Black-eye Purple 19k 10300 SOLD
2006 06 MINI Cooper 1.6 Convertible (CHILI + TLC) Hyper Blue 21k 10900 SOLD
2006 06 MINI Cooper 1.6 Convertible (CHILI + TLC) Astro Black 30k 10900 SOLD
2006 06 MINI Cooper 1.6 Convertible (CHILI + TLC) Pure Silver 24k 11600 SOLD
2006 56 MINI Cooper 1.6 Convertible (CHILI + TLC) Chili Red 20k 11300 SOLD
2006 06 MINI Cooper 1.6 Convertible (CHILI + TLC) Pepper White 22k 11100 SOLD
2006 06 MINI Cooper S 1.6 3dr (TLC) Dark Silver 35k 9000 SOLD
2006 06 MINI Cooper S 1.6 with JCW Kit (TLC) Hyper Blue 17k 12700 SOLD
2006 06 MINI Cooper S 1.6 3dr (TLC) Dark Silver 36k 9600 SOLD
2006 56 MINI Cooper S 1.6 3dr (CHILI + TLC) Astro Black 19k 12400 SOLD
2007 56 MINI Cooper S 1.6 3dr (CHILI + TLC) Dark Silver 18k 14000 SOLD
2006 06 MINI Cooper S 1.6 Convertible (CHILI + TLC) Black-eye Purple 14k 12500 SOLD
2006 06 MINI Cooper S 1.6 Convertible (CHILI + TLC) Dark Silver 18k 13000 SOLD
2006 06 MINI Cooper S 1.6 Auto Convertible (CHILI + TLC) British Racing Green 12k 13000 SOLD
2006 06 Mercedes A150 Classic SE 5dr Polar Silver 22k 6400 SOLD
2006 06 Mercedes A150 Elegance SE 5dr Polar Silver 21k 7450 SOLD
2006 06 Mercedes A150 Elegance SE 3dr Atoll Blue 23k 6950 SOLD
2006 06 Mercedes A150 Avantgarde SE 5dr Polar Silver 22k 7250 SOLD
2006 06 Mercedes A170 Classic SE 5dr Atoll Blue 29k 6900 SOLD
2006 06 Mercedes A180 CDI Avantgarde SE 5dr Reef Blue 36k 8300 SOLD
2006 06 Mercedes A180 CDI Classic SE Tip Auto 5dr Saturn Red 35k 7500 SOLD
2007 07 Mercedes A180 CDI Avantgarde SE 3dr Cosmos Black 25k 8700 SOLD
2007 07 Mercedes B150 SE 5dr Polar Silver 9k 11200 SOLD
2007 07 Mercedes B150 SE (Sport pack) Cosmos Black 12k 11650 SOLD
2006 06 Mercedes B150 SE 5dr Polar Silver 8k 10050 SOLD
2005 55 Mercedes B170 SE Tip Auto Polar Silver 15k 10050 SOLD
2005 55 Mercedes B180 CDI Classic SE Tip Auto 5dr Polar Silver 38k 10350 SOLD
2008 08 Mercedes B180 CDI SE CVT Auto Lotus Blue 11k 15900 SOLD
2006 06 Mercedes B200 CDI SE Tip Auto Horizon Blue 30k 12050 SOLD
2006 06 Mercedes C180K Avantgarde SE Auto Saloon Perlite Grey 52k 10600 SOLD
2007 07 Mercedes C180K Avantgarde SE Auto Saloon Jasper Blue 10k 13600 SOLD
2007 07 Mercedes C180K Classic SE Auto Estate Obsidian Black 24k 12350 SOLD
2007 56 Mercedes C180K Avantgarde SE Auto Estate Diamond Black 34k 12500 SOLD
2007 57 Mercedes C180K Sport Auto Saloon (n/s) Tenorite Grey 20k 18400 SOLD
2008 08 Mercedes C180K SE Auto Saloon (n/s) Obsidian Black 16k 16100 SOLD
2008 08 Mercedes C180K SE Auto Saloon (n/s) Tenorite Grey 16k 16200 SOLD
2008 08 Mercedes C180K SE Auto Saloon (n/s) Cubanite Silver 14k 15900 SOLD
2006 06 Mercedes C200 CDI Sport Auto Coupe Diamond Black 24k 12400 SOLD
2008 08 Mercedes C200 CDI Sport Auto Coupe 3dr (n/s) Obsidian Black 6k 18800 SOLD
2004 04 Mercedes C220 CDI Avantgarde SE Auto Saloon Tansanite Blue 98k 6000 SOLD
2005 55 Mercedes C220 CDI Avantgarde SE Auto Estate Tansanite Blue 90k 8500 SOLD
2007 07 Mercedes C220 CDI Avantgarde SE Auto Saloon Iridium Silver 19k 13700 SOLD
2007 57 Mercedes C220 CDI SE Auto (n/s) Iridium Silver 16k 17100 SOLD
2008 08 Mercedes C220 CDI SE Auto Saloon (n/s) Tansanite Blue 7k 18800 SOLD
2002 02 Mercedes CL55 AMG Auto Coupe Almandine Black 82k 11550 SOLD
2003 53 Mercedes CLK CLK 270 CDI Avantgarde Auto Coupe Iolite Blue 71k 8200 SOLD
2006 56 Mercedes CLK 200K Avantgarde Tip Auto Cabriolet Tansanite Blue 28k 19600 SOLD
2006 56 Mercedes CLS CLS 350 Tip Auto Obsidian Black 19k 23600 SOLD
2006 56 Mercedes CLS CLS 320 CDI Tip Auto Iridium Silver 32k 20000 SOLD
2006 56 Mercedes CLS CLS 320 CDI Tip Auto Cubanite Silver 32k 22400 SOLD
2006 56 Mercedes CLS CLS 320 CDI Tip Auto Iridium Silver 19k 20400 SOLD
2006 56 Mercedes CLS CLS 320 CDI Tip Auto Obsidian Black 22k 23500 SOLD
2007 56 Mercedes CLS CLS 320 CDI Tip Auto Iridium Silver 37k 20600 SOLD
2007 57 Mercedes CLS CLS 320 CDI Tip Auto Iridium Silver 12k 22500 SOLD
2005 05 Mercedes E220 CDI Avantgarde Estate Brilliant Silver 76k 11000 SOLD
2007 07 Mercedes E220 CDI Avantgarde Tip Auto Saloon Iridium Silver 11k 17400 SOLD
2007 57 Mercedes E220 CDI Avantgarde Tip Auto Saloon Iridium Silver 17k 18350 SOLD
2007 57 Mercedes E220 CDI Avantgarde Tip Auto Estate Iridium Silver 13k 20700 SOLD
2005 54 Mercedes E270 CDI Avantgarde Tip Auto Saloon Brilliant Silver 81k 9400 SOLD
2007 07 Mercedes E280 CDI Avantgarde Tip Auto Saloon Cubanite Silver 41k 17100 SOLD
2004 54 Mercedes E320 Avantgarde Tip Auto Saloon Teallite Blue 88k 8400 SOLD
2004 54 Mercedes E320 CDI Avantgarde Tip Auto Saloon Teallite Blue 105k 8400 SOLD
2007 07 Mercedes R320L CDI LWB Sport Auto Iridium Silver 19k 22200 SOLD
2003 53 Mercedes S320 CDI Auto (Cat D) Brilliant Silver 49k 8500 SOLD
2005 05 Mercedes SLK 200K Auto Roadster (n/s) Tansanite Blue 13k 16000 SOLD
2006 06 Smart ForFour 1.1 Pulse 5dr Jack Black 27k 3400 SOLD
2006 06 Smart ForFour 1.5 CDI Passion (95) 5dr Starlight Silver 30k 5300 SOLD
2006 06 Smart ForFour 1.1 Passion 5dr Star Blue 23k 4350 SOLD
2006 06 Smart ForFour 1.3 Pulse 5dr Deep Green 22k 3600 SOLD
2005 05 Smart ForTwo Passion Auto Coupe Star Blue 20k 4100 SOLD
2006 06 Smart ForTwo Pulse Auto Coupe Jack Black 16k 4450 SOLD
2006 06 Smart ForTwo Passion Auto Coupe Star Blue 23k 4750 SOLD
2006 06 Smart ForTwo Brabus Auto Cabriolet Jack Black 66k 5000 SOLD
2006 56 Smart ForTwo Passion Auto Coupe Lite White 23k 4800 SOLD
2006 56 Smart ForTwo Passion Auto Coupe Silver Metallic 24k 5200 SOLD
2007 07 Smart ForTwo Pink Passion Auto Coupe Lite White 17k 6000 SOLD
2007 07 Smart ForTwo Pulse Auto Cabrio 699cc (n/s) Deep Black 2k 6400 SOLD
2007 07 Smart ForTwo Pure Auto Coupe (61) Jack Black 2k 4500 SOLD
2007 07 Smart ForTwo Passion Auto Coupe Lite White 14k 5450 SOLD
2007 57 Smart ForTwo Pulse Coupe Auto Deep Black 9k 5650 SOLD
2008 08 Smart ForTwo Pulse Auto Coupe Red Solid 6k 6400 SOLD
2005 05 Smart Roadster 80bhp Auto Roadster Champagne Remix 26k 5100 SOLD
2006 55 Smart Roadster Speedsilver Auto Roadster Speed Silver 28k 5500 SOLD


dandarez

13,293 posts

284 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Recession, eh?

Crusoe

4,068 posts

232 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Makes you feel quite smug seeing those if you bought a similar car for less money 8 months ago from a dealer with warranty. smile

fivesixseven8

6,146 posts

228 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Another great article from V8mate!

Interesting to see this:
2007 56 MINI Cooper S 1.6 3dr (CHILI + TLC) Dark Silver 18k 14000 SOLD

I've recently bought one almost identical but with less miles, in Astro black and almost every option for only a few £ hundred more. As it was bought from BMW/Mini direct I assumed I was going to be paying a premium, when it seems I could sell it at auction now for the same, if not more than I paid for it!

SpunkyM

250 posts

245 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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The M3 CS was a good deal too.

btdk5

1,853 posts

191 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Why do people sell such new cars at an auction?

V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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btdk5 said:
Why do people sell such new cars at an auction?
'People' don't. These cars are end-of-lease.

laze

3 posts

188 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Great article but I can't believe you haven't linked to Part 1 & 2 at the beginning or anywhere throughout.

laze

V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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laze said:
Great article but I can't believe you haven't linked to Part 1 & 2 at the beginning or anywhere throughout.

laze
Sorted smile

pokethepope

2,657 posts

189 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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V8mate said:
btdk5 said:
Why do people sell such new cars at an auction?
'People' don't. These cars are end-of-lease.
Am I missing something - why don't BMW finance, for example, cut out the middle man (auction house) and sell/transfer their end of lease cars directly to the BMW dealers who are buying their cars through auction?

V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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pokethepope said:
V8mate said:
btdk5 said:
Why do people sell such new cars at an auction?
'People' don't. These cars are end-of-lease.
Am I missing something - why don't BMW finance, for example, cut out the middle man (auction house) and sell/transfer their end of lease cars directly to the BMW dealers who are buying their cars through auction?
Auction ensures they get the best price, removes favoritism of one dealer over another during remarketing and is a clear legal process for disposal, e.g. if the car was a finance reposession and the lessee complains that they were unfairly treated.

va1o

16,032 posts

208 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Thanks again for another excellent write-up thumbup

Am I right in observing the Mercs that are not Silver or Black tend to be worth less?

V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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va1o said:
Thanks again for another excellent write-up thumbup

Am I right in observing the Mercs that are not Silver or Black tend to be worth less?
Probably not that simplistic, though it'll be a factor.

What I haven't included (because I would have had to go and check each car individually) is whether they have COMAND. That has a huge impact on resale values.

va1o

16,032 posts

208 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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V8mate said:
What I haven't included (because I would have had to go and check each car individually) is whether they have COMAND. That has a huge impact on resale values.
Even on the A/B/C Classes?

V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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va1o said:
V8mate said:
What I haven't included (because I would have had to go and check each car individually) is whether they have COMAND. That has a huge impact on resale values.
Even on the A/B/C Classes?
Well, from the data above, it's quite hard to say because there are very few duplicate vehicles, i.e. exactly the same model, age, mileage and trim level.

Matt UK

17,729 posts

201 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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2008 08 BMW 730D SE Auto Saloon Black Sapphire 4k 26800 SOLD

Huge amount of car for the money.

Chris_w666

22,655 posts

200 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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I am struggling to work out how dealers are making anything if that sale is indicative of prices elsewhere too. Surely the margins on most of those cars is £500-1000 and that is assuming they need no money spent on them.


Pumajay

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205 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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great article, i actually work for manheim auctions leicester, which branch did you visit??

va1o

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208 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Chris_w666 said:
I am struggling to work out how dealers are making anything if that sale is indicative of prices elsewhere too. Surely the margins on most of those cars is £500-1000 and that is assuming they need no money spent on them.
Prices have risen at auction over the last few months because of the reduced stock, so price risees on teh forecourt will follow. I can't see them selling a car with less than £1500 margin in it, but I don't work in the motor trade at present so could be wrong.

V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Thursday 4th June 2009
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va1o said:
Chris_w666 said:
I am struggling to work out how dealers are making anything if that sale is indicative of prices elsewhere too. Surely the margins on most of those cars is £500-1000 and that is assuming they need no money spent on them.
Prices have risen at auction over the last few months because of the reduced stock, so price risees on teh forecourt will follow. I can't see them selling a car with less than £1500 margin in it, but I don't work in the motor trade at present so could be wrong.
Bear in mind that BMW main dealers reselling any of those cars through the Approved Used scheme will receive a bonus from BMW UK, thereby enhancing their margin.