BBC message board about speed cameras
BBC message board about speed cameras
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oyster

Original Poster:

13,471 posts

271 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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Ladies & Gents,

BBC Have Your Say has opened up a message board for comments about speed cameras. Get in there and fight for our corner.

Be aware, the BBC will not publish over the top posts. Best bet to get your comment on is to be original.

[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/3306405.stm[/url]

puggit

49,441 posts

271 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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Agreed - in my experience anything bland or OTT does not get published!

planetdave

9,921 posts

276 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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Fingers crossed - I have put in my £00.02 worth. Actually it was more like a lottery wins worth 'cos I felt the ghost of Deltaf in my fingers

Apache

39,731 posts

307 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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Done, and may I refer you good people to this thread

www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=10&t=71105

oyster

Original Poster:

13,471 posts

271 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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Having encouraged you to send comments to the BBC site, they have a tendency of balancing the arguments regardless.

Even if they receive 3 pro-camera comments and 10,000 anti-camera comments, they will publish all 3 of the pro-camera ones and maybe only half a dozen of the anti-camera ones.

puggit

49,441 posts

271 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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sandal wearing lentil muncher said:
Speed kills. How can you possibly object to static speed cameras? I agree that they should be set appropriately to allow say a 5mph margin of error. I live on an A road with a 50mph speed limit, and feel very vulnerable (with my child in the back) when pulling out of my drive - due to some testosterone driven lunatics insisting on careering past at 60mph+.
Jayne, Salisbury
ARRRRGGGHHHHHH
KILL THEM, KILL THEM ALL

The Wiz

5,875 posts

285 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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puggit said:

sandal wearing lentil muncher said:
Speed kills. How can you possibly object to static speed cameras? I agree that they should be set appropriately to allow say a 5mph margin of error. I live on an A road with a 50mph speed limit, and feel very vulnerable (with my child in the back) when pulling out of my drive - due to some testosterone driven lunatics insisting on careering past at 60mph+.
Jayne, Salisbury


ARRRRGGGHHHHHH
KILL THEM, KILL THEM ALL


Posted a bit about cameras costing lives ....

Jayne from Salisbury - Make sure the gap is a sensible one then ....use your judgement. Ah forgot she probably does not have any.

Actually the one on there by the guy who calls for speed limiters etc is more worrying ... in that there is someone who believes that will make things safer ...

v8thunder

27,647 posts

281 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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What I just can't understand about these so-called liberal Tofu-chompers is their lack of respect for general public intelligence. Why can't they understand that if you have an intelligent, human police force and a motoring public allowed to make up it's own mind, we won't be pandering to robots and taking our eyes off the task in hand. Multi-tasking in a car isn't like reading a magazine on the toilet!

anonymous-user

77 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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Posted a comment. Doubt if the yoghurt knitters at the BBC will publish it though.

andymadmak

15,329 posts

293 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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Just posted this:


Rather than ask why Durham does not have more static speed cameras, the Minister should be asking what factors were attributable to the increase in road deaths, and how those factors are being addressed in order to secure a reduction. Recent, rather less biased statistics show that speed is the absolute determining factor in less than 8% of road accidents.
In fact, it is more likely to be the case that the increase is due to drunk drivers, joy riders in stolen cars, abysmal driving standards or even people using dangerous, poorly maintained vehicles. If this was the case then it's hard to see how static or even mobile speed cameras would make any impact on the road death figures. Surely good old fashioned police on the beat, showing the traditional good sense that the British Police are renowned for is the way to reduce road deaths, not reliance on simplistic "speed kills" mantras and inappropriate technology that criminalises those least likely to be the real problem!


Andy 400se

nonegreen

7,803 posts

293 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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The Wiz said:

puggit said:


sandal wearing lentil muncher said:
Speed kills. How can you possibly object to static speed cameras? I agree that they should be set appropriately to allow say a 5mph margin of error. I live on an A road with a 50mph speed limit, and feel very vulnerable (with my child in the back) when pulling out of my drive - due to some testosterone driven lunatics insisting on careering past at 60mph+.
Jayne, Salisbury



ARRRRGGGHHHHHH
KILL THEM, KILL THEM ALL



Posted a bit about cameras costing lives ....

Jayne from Salisbury - Make sure the gap is a sensible one then ....use your judgement. Ah forgot she probably does not have any.

Actually the one on there by the guy who calls for speed limiters etc is more worrying ... in that there is someone who believes that will make things safer ...


You have to feel sorry for these people really because in evolutionary terms they have nor really been happy since the wheel was invented. You can usually spot them if you use a cigarette lighter, they kind of have a look of "Ooohhhh magic.... Fire from his fingers" They would generally be a lot happier in a mud hut wearing wode and making daisy chains. Imagine the trauma they must face on a daily basis having to deal with such magic and wizardry as a car. Or perhaps the ritual that must develop having to reverse onto a main road.

v8thunder

27,647 posts

281 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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I see you've seen Jack Dee- live In London too then

Neil_H

15,407 posts

274 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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puggit said:

sandal wearing lentil muncher said:
Speed kills. How can you possibly object to static speed cameras? I agree that they should be set appropriately to allow say a 5mph margin of error. I live on an A road with a 50mph speed limit, and feel very vulnerable (with my child in the back) when pulling out of my drive - due to some testosterone driven lunatics insisting on careering past at 60mph+.
Jayne, Salisbury



ARRRRGGGHHHHHH
KILL THEM, KILL THEM ALL


I was just about to post exactly the same thing, she's sounds like a complete Mumpty who is intimidated by the whole 'driving' thing, finds spacial awareness an impossible concept and is probably less-deserving of a license than the 'testosterone driven lunatics' she refers too!

BURN THEM BURN THEM BURN THEM BURN THEM BURN THEM

ATG

22,980 posts

295 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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Shoved my tuppence worth in.

Must say it is really excellent that the topic of speed cameras is getting such an airing in the media. Just goes to show that people making an effort like the ABD and the safespeed geezer really can make a difference and shove an issue into the public view. This really seems to be building up a lot of momentum. Up the revolution!

Don

28,378 posts

307 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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don on beeb said:

As I drive about the country I find more and more cameras placed just around the blind corner. If they were about safety they would be in front of the corner to prevent drivers going in too fast - instead they are just about money.


Pithy enough I hope...

v8thunder

27,647 posts

281 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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Neil_H said:

puggit said:


sandal wearing lentil muncher said:
Speed kills. How can you possibly object to static speed cameras? I agree that they should be set appropriately to allow say a 5mph margin of error. I live on an A road with a 50mph speed limit, and feel very vulnerable (with my child in the back) when pulling out of my drive - due to some testosterone driven lunatics insisting on careering past at 60mph+.
Jayne, Salisbury




ARRRRGGGHHHHHH
KILL THEM, KILL THEM ALL



I was just about to post exactly the same thing, she's sounds like a complete Mumpty who is intimidated by the whole 'driving' thing, finds spacial awareness an impossible concept and is probably less-deserving of a license than the 'testosterone driven lunatics' she refers too!

BURN THEM BURN THEM BURN THEM BURN THEM BURN THEM


Yes. Hate the overt sexism she's using. I could mention the 'oestragen-driven lunatics' putting their make-up on whilst chatting on their phone, doing the eyelashes in the rear-view and fumbling the pedals with pink high heels whilst negotiating roundabouts in their 206CC, but I doubt the lovely, liberal BBC would allow such comments, especially when they're made by a foaming, far-right neo-Nazi group such as PistonHeads!

Mrs Puggit

143 posts

268 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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The Wiz said:

puggit said:


sandal wearing lentil muncher said:
Speed kills. How can you possibly object to static speed cameras? I agree that they should be set appropriately to allow say a 5mph margin of error. I live on an A road with a 50mph speed limit, and feel very vulnerable (with my child in the back) when pulling out of my drive - due to some testosterone driven lunatics insisting on careering past at 60mph+.
Jayne, Salisbury



ARRRRGGGHHHHHH
KILL THEM, KILL THEM ALL



Posted a bit about cameras costing lives ....

Jayne from Salisbury - Make sure the gap is a sensible one then ....use your judgement. Ah forgot she probably does not have any.

Actually the one on there by the guy who calls for speed limiters etc is more worrying ... in that there is someone who believes that will make things safer ...


Just wondering about Jayne, bet she's one of these people who thinks it's OK to reverse out of her drive onto an A road (placing her child in direct line of the on coming traffic) and thus does not have a clear view of the "testosterone driven lunatics"

If she's that worried a nice semi in a cul-de-sac will sort it out!

FourWheelDrift

91,825 posts

307 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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sandal wearing lentil muncher said:
Speed kills. How can you possibly object to static speed cameras? I agree that they should be set appropriately to allow say a 5mph margin of error. I live on an A road with a 50mph speed limit, and feel very vulnerable (with my child in the back) when pulling out of my drive - due to some testosterone driven lunatics insisting on careering past at 60mph+.
Jayne, Salisbury


Plus it's not the speed that'll be her problem but the ammount of traffic (they could all be doing 30mph and she'll still have a problem finding a gap) or the fact she's probably a dithering fool who drives wearing blinkers and an attitude to male drivers.

Probably the type to miss the gaps when your stuck behind her at a T junction then pulls out in front of someone causing an accident and puts the blame on the speed of the approaching car

v8thunder

27,647 posts

281 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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I think Jezza summed her kind up best when he mentioned the 'petrified, ie turned-to-stone' types who 'dawdle around, hunched over the wheel with the sun-visor pullled down behind their heads. Tom Cruise could be in the car alongside, waving his meat out of the window and Maureen would be non the wiser'

I bet she's more of a liability than the speeders, thinks she's perfect because she's 'never had a 'bump'', yet, strangely, has no NCB. You know the type.

FourWheelDrift

91,825 posts

307 months

Wednesday 10th December 2003
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Mrs Puggit said:

Just wondering about Jayne, bet she's one of these people who thinks it's OK to reverse out of her drive onto an A road (placing her child in direct line of the on coming traffic) and thus does not have a clear view of the "testosterone driven lunatics"


Which is an illegal manouvre, but try telling her and all the others who do it. Seems they have no idea it's either dangerous or illegal.