RE: Officially official: BMW 1-series M for 2011

RE: Officially official: BMW 1-series M for 2011

Thursday 3rd June 2010

Officially official: BMW 1-series M for 2011

M division boss confirms arrival time for baby M-car



The boss of BMW's M division, Dr Kay Segler, has officially confirmed that an M version of the 1-series will arrive in 2011.

Segler revealed the news to German car mag Auto News on Tuesday (read the interview on the Auto news website here if your German's good, or bung it through Google Translate and see if you can make sense of it).

The new car will be based on the 1-series coupe, but won't be called the M1 - that remains reserved for the original mid-engined supercar. More likely is a nomenclature along the lines of 135i M, especially since the new baby M-car will use a more powerful version of the 135i's 302bhp turbocharged straight six for its motive power.

Segler also confirmed that the new M5 would hit showrooms in 2011 and that, as has been widely anticipated, the V10 from the E60 M5 will be dropped in favour of the twin-turbo V8 from the X5 M and X6 M.

Lightweight tricks will also feature on the new M5, including a carbon roof similar to the one on the current M3.

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Mr.Jimbo

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2,082 posts

182 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Hurrah!

Be interesting to see what its like, and how close it is to the Tii concept (which I really liked, so hope its quite similar biggrin)

BlueEyedBoy

1,918 posts

195 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Please make it as a 3 door too, not just that horrendous coupe! I used to think the 3 door was fugly, but with the right model and right wheels it can look ok, however the coupe never seems to look good.

Chr1sch

2,585 posts

192 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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If its anything as snappy as mine on the limit then it will be a handful - but great fun!

Great Pretender

26,140 posts

213 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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So what do we reckon: 350bhp?

Deranged Granny

2,313 posts

167 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Great Pretender said:
So what do we reckon: 350bhp?
Probably. They will probably do a Porsche (Cayman>911) and not make it as good as it could be to protect M3 sales.

kambites

67,461 posts

220 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Please BMW, make the thing lighter, not just more powerful.

pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

178 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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BlueEyedBoy said:
Please make it as a 3 door too, not just that horrendous coupe!
Strange, i think the 3 door is fuglier by far. The coupe looks a lot better, although none of the 1ers are catwalk models, it's the best of them.

Dagnut

3,515 posts

192 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Chr1sch said:
If its anything as snappy as mine on the limit then it will be a handful - but great fun!
I'd say an LSD would sort that out..doesn't the 135i have an LSD already?

adycav

7,615 posts

216 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Dagnut said:
Chr1sch said:
If its anything as snappy as mine on the limit then it will be a handful - but great fun!
I'd say an LSD would sort that out..doesn't the 135i have an LSD already?
No.

pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

178 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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adycav said:
Dagnut said:
Chr1sch said:
If its anything as snappy as mine on the limit then it will be a handful - but great fun!
I'd say an LSD would sort that out..doesn't the 135i have an LSD already?
No.
It has an e-diff (as does the 123d coupe) which selectively brakes certain wheels, not a mechanical/proper LSD

ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

172 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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pistonheads BMW story said:
The new car will be based on the 1-series coupe, but won't be called the M1 - that remains reserved for the original mid-engined supercar.
scratchchin mmm not using the M1 badge, is that because they may be bringing out a new one in the near future or because they dont want to confuse people between the old M1 and this car?.

Edited by ZOLLAR on Thursday 3rd June 09:24

mat205125

17,790 posts

212 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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So and "e-diff" has nothing to do with the differential, just a software program grabbing brake discs?

Steff

1,420 posts

262 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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mat205125 said:
So and "e-diff" has nothing to do with the differential, just a software program grabbing brake discs?
yes it brakes the spinning wheel

adycav

7,615 posts

216 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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BMW seem to have got into a right old pickle with their model naming strategy:

They have an M1 coming out which they can't call an M1 because of sentiment.

They have a new sub-1 series smaller car coming - expect to see the 0.516i on the road soon.

They have a 2-seater sports car which is preposterously christened the "Z4 sdrive35is".

They have M versions of the X5 and X6 which they have had to call X5/X6 M rather than adopt their regular naming strategy for M cars, due to a popular Japanese roadster that you may have heard of (and its less popular coupe cousin).


Don't these people think things through?

I used to own a 130i, that's nice and simple - a 1 series with a three litre engine.

Funk

26,254 posts

208 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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pilchardthecat said:
adycav said:
Dagnut said:
Chr1sch said:
If its anything as snappy as mine on the limit then it will be a handful - but great fun!
I'd say an LSD would sort that out..doesn't the 135i have an LSD already?
No.
It has an e-diff (as does the 123d coupe) which selectively brakes certain wheels, not a mechanical/proper LSD
The 123d hatch has this as well.

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

217 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Really leaves me cold this, it will be ugly, all the 1's are, yes it will be fast, but it will cost the earth, have no space in it, weigh a ton and have stop start.


Nope still cold.

Just buy a used M3.

kambites

67,461 posts

220 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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If it weighed a tonne, I think we'd all be pretty happy. hehe

gumsie

680 posts

208 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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adycav said:
BMW seem to have got into a right old pickle with their model naming strategy:

They have an M1 coming out which they can't call an M1 because of sentiment.

They have a new sub-1 series smaller car coming - expect to see the 0.516i on the road soon.

They have a 2-seater sports car which is preposterously christened the "Z4 sdrive35is".

They have M versions of the X5 and X6 which they have had to call X5/X6 M rather than adopt their regular naming strategy for M cars, due to a popular Japanese roadster that you may have heard of (and its less popular coupe cousin).


Don't these people think things through?

I used to own a 130i, that's nice and simple - a 1 series with a three litre engine.
They all do it, but I absolutely take your point.a.nd No. They don't think things through.

Wolands Advocate

2,493 posts

215 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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pilchardthecat said:
BlueEyedBoy said:
Please make it as a 3 door too, not just that horrendous coupe!
Strange, i think the 3 door is fuglier by far. The coupe looks a lot better, although none of the 1ers are catwalk models, it's the best of them.
Indeed. I drove past a 59-plate red 3dr this morning and also thought to myself that it was the ugliest of an admittedly challenging bunch.

If it's anything like the car that's been bashing around the 'Ring, then it will be likely to have (aside from speculation over the actual power/torque output) bespoke bodywork (flared arches, revised bumpers), an M-diff, quad-exit exhausts and possible CSL-esque alloys like the latest Competition version of the E92 M3.

Which would be a good thing. Because if I have one criticism of the 135i, it's that it's a little too refined for its own good and could do with being a little lairier. It's not that it isn't very quick, it could just do with feeling as quick as it is.

Rusty-C

291 posts

174 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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I think this could be the M car we've all been waiting for (now they've dropped the four-cylinder turbo nonsense), if BMW can shed a few pounds and add a dusting of aggression, i'll be a very happy camper.