RE: Charity Tour
Wednesday 10th March 2004
Charity Tour
All for charity mate...
Plans are afoot for a cross country blast around the UK in aid of charity. The organisers of the yet to be named event have approached us to help them guage interest in their proposed event.
So PHers, how do you fancy leaving work early on Friday afternoon – hopping in your car and heading to the south of England. Waiting there would be hundreds of people, hundreds of cars, and spectators, the press and fans cheering you on as you embark on the first leg of your 72 hour adventure across the UK.
With a splash of event livery you'd head out through the crowds to the start of the event. Heading up the red carpet you'd collect your instructions and from there it's off to the first checkpoint.
Every night from then on you’d be staying in the countries most beautiful aaccommodation, enjoying meals prepared by leading chefs and enjoying the company of beautiful machines, and fun people.
And then comes the driving! The plan is for the route to take in some of the country's top locations, exclusive factory tours, prototype testing, race tracks, motor sports teams, drag strips…who knows!?
Over the next 2 days you’ll be flying around the best roads in the country, cheered on at special locations, and having more fun than you ever thought possible.
When the route is over and you’ve reached your final destination there’ll be yet another beautiful hotel just for you! You’ll be able to relax, enjoy another amazing meal and another amazing evening, and get some rest – believe me, you will need it.
The adventures over, but within the space of little over 70 hours you’ve been a rally driver, a race car driver, a celebrity, royalty, and a film star. But what’s really important is you’ve also been a hero!
This event will be run entirely for the benefit of one of the countries leading cancer charities and is a charity event rather than a money making scheme. Everything you do throughout the weekend, every time your picture gets taken, every time you sign an autograph or pull into a checkpoint you’ll be helping a charity!
The plan is that there will be no fixed entry fees - only donations. The more money you can raise, the better the chance you'll have of securing a place. Entry donations are expected to soar into the thousands – and rightly so!
If the organisers can get it off the ground then it sounds like good fun for a good cause. If you're interested then hit the comment button and the organisers will dive into the discussion too.
Discussion
I would like to just say, dont expect to raise the entire brunt of the entry donation from other peoples donation.
As a hopeful competitor i'll still be paying for my entry, i've managed to get £300 so far, and the company i work for have agrees to double what i can raise. that leaves the left over entry to split between my codriver and i. And £600 to stay in the sorta locations we've got planned, and to do the activities you'll get do, is a BARGAIN! Beleive me!
And - it's for charity.
You've got enough warning until this event runs - it's planned for summer 2005 so stick a tenner a month outta your paycheck, and you'll be savvy in no time!
However - thanks for the feedback, appreciated. All thoughts welcome.
>> Edited by fto2tuscan on Wednesday 10th March 11:53
>> Edited by fto2tuscan on Wednesday 10th March 21:11
As a hopeful competitor i'll still be paying for my entry, i've managed to get £300 so far, and the company i work for have agrees to double what i can raise. that leaves the left over entry to split between my codriver and i. And £600 to stay in the sorta locations we've got planned, and to do the activities you'll get do, is a BARGAIN! Beleive me!
And - it's for charity.
You've got enough warning until this event runs - it's planned for summer 2005 so stick a tenner a month outta your paycheck, and you'll be savvy in no time!
However - thanks for the feedback, appreciated. All thoughts welcome.
>> Edited by fto2tuscan on Wednesday 10th March 11:53
>> Edited by fto2tuscan on Wednesday 10th March 21:11
Sounds like a good idea in theory although not something I am likely to partake in.
Seems to me there could easily be issues with speed cameras on the route! Leaving that aside how are the drivers suppossed to explain it to their sponsors? "Sponsor me to have the time of my life, Please"
I would have thought individuals should pay for the costs of their entry with additional sponsored tasks being done during the period. Whether its a treasure hunt (sponsored x per correct answer), visit x number of places etc.
I know a couple of years ago the RNLI did an event where people had to visit as many lifeboats houses in a 48 hour period as possible. A lot of driving, a lot of fun, but hard work, and involved a certain amount of thought in identifying best routes!
This challenge doesn't appear to involve this.
Seems to me there could easily be issues with speed cameras on the route! Leaving that aside how are the drivers suppossed to explain it to their sponsors? "Sponsor me to have the time of my life, Please"
I would have thought individuals should pay for the costs of their entry with additional sponsored tasks being done during the period. Whether its a treasure hunt (sponsored x per correct answer), visit x number of places etc.
I know a couple of years ago the RNLI did an event where people had to visit as many lifeboats houses in a 48 hour period as possible. A lot of driving, a lot of fun, but hard work, and involved a certain amount of thought in identifying best routes!
This challenge doesn't appear to involve this.
chrisgr31 said:
Seems to me there could easily be issues with speed cameras on the route! Leaving that aside how are the drivers suppossed to explain it to their sponsors? "Sponsor me to have the time of my life, Please"
Speed cameras...are you already planning to speed
there will be certain points of the route at which you will be able to 'stretch your legs' these are safe and planned points of the route that will be given to you at the according time. Apart from that, speeding is still illegal...buy a snooper?
As for the sponsoring thing, once again back to the original point of, dont expect people to sponsor all of your entry. And keep telling the companies it's a tax break, offer your local dealer a logo on the car for £50 or something, you WILL be on tv, magazines, websites, and so on. Press exposure detail will be confirmed shortly.
chrisgr31 said:
I would have thought individuals should pay for the costs of their entry with additional sponsored tasks being done during the period. Whether its a treasure hunt (sponsored x per correct answer), visit x number of places etc.
We wanted to keep it simple so that those amongst you who just want to pay yourself, have the lime of your life, and lap up the luxury, could just do that. without hassle.
There will be activities throughout the day and there will be the chance to do things like treasure hunts, scatter sections and so on, once again, you'll be told about this sort of thing in a short while, just trying to answer the first round of questions first.
It's a fair point though. And definatley something worth looking into. Would you prefer to have say a very low entry and then a level of donation that was variable?
chrisgr31 said:
I know a couple of years ago the RNLI did an event where people had to visit as many lifeboats houses in a 48 hour period as possible. A lot of driving, a lot of fun, but hard work, and involved a certain amount of thought in identifying best routes!
This challenge doesn't appear to involve this.
There will be plenty of chance to go hunting for the best route. But it will be all given on the day. Entrants will not know where they are going until they leave their checkpoint, Your destination information pack will contact certain points of interest...like the roads that are empty of cameras.
Hope this helps? Any more questions or suggestions keep em coming!
>> Edited by fto2tuscan on Wednesday 10th March 12:20
fto2tuscan said:
oh - and it's a tax benefit, for companies, and some other bodies (not sure exactly how it works) but because all the entry fee's actually go to the charity (and not the event organisers first) it's a donation that you're making.
Unless they've changed the rules recently it would not be considered a an allowable expense for tax purposes as it benefits a national charity. To be allowable it must benefit a local charity that would generate good will for the business
Sounds interesting. Hope you dont mind me reeling off a few questions?
Will any type of car be allowed to enter?
Are the graphics compulsory - what about our paint jobs?
How much are the entries going to be?
How many people are going to enter?
Will the entry fee be more or less than what doing this ourselves with out every be?
I know that last one sounds real stupid but what i meant was - could we book the hotels, and the stop offs/activities ourselves and save a couple of hundred quid?
Will any type of car be allowed to enter?
Are the graphics compulsory - what about our paint jobs?
How much are the entries going to be?
How many people are going to enter?
Will the entry fee be more or less than what doing this ourselves with out every be?
I know that last one sounds real stupid but what i meant was - could we book the hotels, and the stop offs/activities ourselves and save a couple of hundred quid?
fish said:
Unless they've changed the rules recently it would not be considered a an allowable expense for tax purposes as it benefits a national charity. To be allowable it must benefit a local charity that would generate good will for the business
This is quite possibly true - (thanks fish!) - guess that even though they cant write it off against tax, they should cough up because it's for charity anyway! If they cant understand why they should pay for you to have a good time, invite them along. We will be allowing more than 2 people per car, but whether it will cost more is undecided.
(thanks again fish)
no problem, excuse the formatting:
absolutley - except motorbikes (not a car but you get the point), anything that has the body space for the decals can enter, we dont care if it has 3 or 30 wheels! so long as it's road legal - this event DOES NOT allow you to start brining illegal cars onto the roads.......but it'd be fantastic to see some street legal racers (unless you're up for the risk?)
yes they're compulsory but they're being fitted by pro's on the lightest vinyl in existance. They will come off easily and there will be people at the end to help you remove them...and a certain type of car wash may be there to help you even out the shine
We cant say right now, but how much are you willing to pay?
anywhere between 50 - 150, i want to see 150 people there! if not more.
absolutley NOT! we are using special discounts, and a massive negotiating power based on the fact that this is a ihgh profile event, and for charity. Not only will you not be able to get into some of the hotels we're getting for you for this cheap. but some of the locations are plain impossible for people like you and I to get into, as they're invitation only!
The activities are not track day sort of things, nor are they things you could organise yourself for you a and a few mates. They involve big venues, big crews, and BIG fun! The things you will do on this event will never happen again .... unless there's a second!
kitkatkar said:
Will any type of car be allowed to enter?
absolutley - except motorbikes (not a car but you get the point), anything that has the body space for the decals can enter, we dont care if it has 3 or 30 wheels! so long as it's road legal - this event DOES NOT allow you to start brining illegal cars onto the roads.......but it'd be fantastic to see some street legal racers (unless you're up for the risk?
) kitkatkar said:
Are the graphics compulsory - what about our paint jobs?
yes they're compulsory but they're being fitted by pro's on the lightest vinyl in existance. They will come off easily and there will be people at the end to help you remove them...and a certain type of car wash may be there to help you even out the shine
kitkatkar said:
How much are the entries going to be?
We cant say right now, but how much are you willing to pay?
kitkatkar said:
How many people are going to enter?
anywhere between 50 - 150, i want to see 150 people there! if not more.
kitkatkar said:
Will the entry fee be more or less than what doing this ourselves with out every be?
absolutley NOT! we are using special discounts, and a massive negotiating power based on the fact that this is a ihgh profile event, and for charity. Not only will you not be able to get into some of the hotels we're getting for you for this cheap. but some of the locations are plain impossible for people like you and I to get into, as they're invitation only!
The activities are not track day sort of things, nor are they things you could organise yourself for you a and a few mates. They involve big venues, big crews, and BIG fun! The things you will do on this event will never happen again .... unless there's a second!
original article said:
The plan is that there will be no fixed entry fees - only donations. The more money you can raise, the better the chance you'll have of securing a place. Entry donations are expected to soar into the thousands – and rightly so!
From this I take it there is a limited number of places, and they will go to the people who are going to donate the most to the charity, (which makes sense) so if enough 'money no object' gumball type, laugh off £5000 speeding fine, car nut celebs decide to enter the starting price for entry is more likely to be in the tens of thousands, is there a cut off date when you know your in or out, because it could be tricky and embarasing to go back to your sponsers and give them the cash back as you've not raised enough to get a place
pdV6 said:
The only problem I can see is that it might be difficult to raise much sponsorship.
Traditionally, one would do something that was either difficult or unpleasant in aid of charity.
I can't see many folk that I know stumping up a wedge of cash so that I can have the time of my life!
Many years back Street Machine magazine organised a 'cruise for charity' that basically entailed hot rods and custom cars driving from John O'Groats to Lands End, complete with lots of stops cum car shows, and they seemed to do OK with that.
Podie said:
I'd be up for it...
.. and the charity drive thing too..
Glad to hear it Podie. We'll be setting up a site really soon for people to post their expressions of interest on. I'll let you know when it's ready.
In the mean time if you could just drop an email to dan@amrally.co.uk (my oceanxl email's a tad sketch at the moment) then i'll make sure you hear about the form when it's available!
same applies to everyone else thats interested!
raceboy said:
From this I take it there is a limited number of places, and they will go to the people who are going to donate the most to the charity, (which makes sense) so if enough 'money no object' gumball type, laugh off £5000 speeding fine, car nut celebs decide to enter the starting price for entry is more likely to be in the tens of thousands, is there a cut off date when you know your in or out, because it could be tricky and embarasing to go back to your sponsers and give them the cash back as you've not raised enough to get a place
A very fine point. I think the best way to handle this would be to have say, 100 places that are available to secure at standard entry, that leaves 50 places for the high rollers to bitch about but secures everyone elses entry. I shall mention this to the comitee next time they all meet and get it cleared. Thank you for bringing it to my notice. Do you think the idea i just gave would work?
Personally i would prefer to see a higher number of the low rollers, more down to earth, and probably a LOT more fun!!
rich1231 said:
Im up for this.
Where do i sign?
Rich
Glad to hear it - same for you kitkatkar.
You will be able to submit an expression of entry on the website VERY shortly - say by the end of this week. People who have submitted expressions will be given a pre-emptive warning when entries become available allowing you to secure your entry!
BUT - we'll be getting you more information first. We'd still like to iron out potential problems like that one with the high rollers before.
I was thinking maybe some rule where max muppets aren't allowed at all. For fear that they may bring the event and charity into disrupte (and they're stupid!). Sound viable??
dazren said:
Sorry, due to the anticipated works of various nationwide scamera partnerships I am unable to take part and raise money for the cancer charity.
I wish those that take part well though.
DAZ
im saddened, then i shat my pants when i saw the porshe in ur profile.
What do you mean you cant come... I personally want you and that machine there. Anything I can do to help? Excuse my ignorance but what's the scamera partnerships?
If its something against speed cameras can i play?
Is it something worth the organising comitee knowing about?
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