RE: SOTW: Renault Clio Renaultsport

RE: SOTW: Renault Clio Renaultsport

Friday 7th January 2011

SOTW: Renault Clio Renaultsport

It ain't the most glam of fast Clios, but Shed reckons this could be a true hot hatch bargain



It's pretty fair to say that, with the arguable exception of the first V6 version and the nasty RSi warm hatch from the mid-90s, Renault has failed to make a bad fast Clio.

We reckon today's SOTW is no exception. Early Renault Clio Renaultsports like this one might be saddled with unfortunate goggle-eyed looks, and they perhaps aren't as revered as some of the later, more hardcore Clios that share the same basic bodyshell, but the old turn-of-the-noughties Regie still has a fair turn of pace and will cock an inside rear wheel with the best of 'em.


That pace comes from a 2.0-litre 16-valve motor shared with more mainstream siblings such as the Laguna and Espace. The engine received a bit of a fiddle from engineering firm (and Erstwhile Renault F1 engine partners) Mecachrome, however, to produce a healthy 167bhp.

That was enough for the Clio Renaultsport to knock on the door of 140mph and to sprint from 0-62mph in a convincingly rapid 7.3secs.

But what makes this particular car so astonishing is that it really ought not to have dipped into Shed territory at all - its £1k asking seems to be at least £500 or so cheaper than its fast Clio peers.


Ordinarily, this would make us deeply sceptical - cars that seem too cheap to be true often are - but this Clio shows every sign of being a thoroughly straight car. The advert has an honest-sounding straightforwardness to it, there's plenty of history to go along with the car, it hasn't been chavved-around with and the vendor appears to have carried out plenty of maintenance.

The only black marks we can see are the suspicious whine the seller mentions, the fact that it's been stood around for a few months and the issue that, once you add tax, it's going to bust Shed's notional £1k budget.


Still, we reckon that a spot of friendly haggling should leave you plenty of room to pop on six months of VED on the little Renault within the £1k rule, maybe with a few bob to spare.

And with an MOT that runs until the end of June, that would leave you with a good six months of hot hatch happiness. Tempted? We would be, if Durham (where the car is) wasn't so darn far away from PHHQ...

Advert is reproduced below

2000 renault clio sport 172 (2000)
110,000 miles £1,000

x reg 172 clio sport
standard apart from upgrade air filter and exhaust is stainless steel.
moted till 28th june
no tax been stood 4 months
110k with full service history
just had head rebuilt fully at great expense
new alternator belt
2nd hand alternator
new water pump
fully serviced when head done.
very qick car when needed
full electrics
air con
fuel computer

i bought the car 4 months ago with a snapped timing belt.
fitted
x16 new valves
x16 valve oil seals
full head gasket set
new head bolts
new timing belt
oil and filter
anti freeze
water pump
alternater belt
2nd hand alternater.

the car has been done 2 months now and has not covered many miles since
due to not having the time to use it.

bad points
body has a few marks (minor)
slight whine on engine/ transmission
only very slight.

car drives and goes as it should and have been using it a it is with out any problems
just trying to be up front noise might be nothing.

no phone calls after 10pm please

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Goodfella 555

Original Poster:

199 posts

168 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Top shedding - slight whining uh oh... eek

petrolsniffer

2,461 posts

174 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Would make a nice cheap track toy smile

Top shed

gforceg

3,524 posts

179 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Hmmm, all that engine work but he didn't bother chasing down the engine/transmission whine.

ninos

65 posts

205 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Nice find, great little hot hatch, just a shame its French and will almost certainly be suffering or will suffer from dodgy electricals. Good for 6 months hooning or track car though then move it on

MagicalTrevor

6,476 posts

229 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Bought one a few months ago, albeit a 'looked after' example and it's superb. Shouldn't be too long until I take it to the track smile

coley20

2,946 posts

191 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Good track car IMO, reasonable too

vrooom

3,763 posts

267 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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I has been wondering about those... but i am bit put off with french car.

Sods Law

3,280 posts

225 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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I had one of these last year was great fun, really good VFM.


At Grand fpr that much bang cant be bad!

DannyVTS

7,543 posts

168 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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ninos said:
Nice find, great little hot hatch, just a shame its French and will almost certainly be suffering or will suffer from dodgy electricals. Good for 6 months hooning or track car though then move it on
I'm pretty sure the electrics are good on the early 172's

The gearboxes can be less reliable though. I intend to get one of these Ph1's when I get another year or 2 no claims smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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I'm skeptical of that, sorry.

Buys it and does all that work to it, which sounds like it cost about £1k, and then puts it up for sale?

It does look very nice though.

ninos said:
Nice find, great little hot hatch, just a shame its French and will almost certainly be suffering or will suffer from dodgy electricals. Good for 6 months hooning or track car though then move it on
rolleyes

Edited by MSTRBKR on Friday 7th January 11:27

matthewg

1,396 posts

165 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Sceptical too - seems like an 'advertised' £500-800 too cheap?

V88Dicky

7,305 posts

183 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Sounds like it may have had a lack of maintenance in the past. Timing belt changes on these cost the best part of £600 from Renault and involve a fair bit of labour. Due at 5 years/72,000 miles and I bet it was sold on around that point without it being done, hence the belt snapping a bit later.

Great cars though, used to have a 172 Cup myself. Sold it just before the timing belt needed doing. wink

Edited by V88Dicky on Friday 7th January 11:33

mik_jg

96 posts

189 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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was in trade for years and totally sceptical about ads like these, but always ended up going to look at the car anyway; bought a lot of cheap stuff this way. whine could be something very simple. i'd take a chance on it!

matthewg

1,396 posts

165 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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V88Dicky said:
Sounds like it may have had a lack of maintenance in the past. Timing belt changes on these cost the best part of £600 from Renault and involve a fair bit of labour. Due at 5 years/72,000 miles and I bet it was sold on around that point without it being done, hence the belt snapping a bit later.
One of the fastest cars you will get for 1k at the moment if it goes and stops!

Not sure if RWD of MX5 1k shed would be more fun? perhaps that's down to opinion.

Matt_N

8,900 posts

202 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Ad said:
no tax been stood 4 months
And then:

Ad said:
car drives and goes as it should and have been using it a it is with out any problems
just trying to be up front noise might be nothing.
scratchchin

matthewg

1,396 posts

165 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Why hasn't it moved. How weird...

Id rather pay him extra to get it taxed than find out something else is dodgy with it?

PetrolHeadSeb

368 posts

169 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Top shedding thumbup

I've owned 2 ph2 172's and they're a bit hit and miss with reliability. One cost me £3k over 18 months in repairs but the other was bullet proof.

I wanted a ph1 as my track car but couldn't find one cheap enough. This looks perfect for someone.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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mik_jg said:
was in trade for years and totally sceptical about ads like these, but always ended up going to look at the car anyway; bought a lot of cheap stuff this way. whine could be something very simple. i'd take a chance on it!
That whine is quite common on the F4R engine. My cup has it too and if you go on cliosport and do a search there a quite a few threads on it. IIRC it's the dephaser pulley which you can opt to change when you have the cambelt done. From a cold start mine will whine for a few minutes until everything warms up, then it's fine. I suspect this one is also fine.

Maybe the guy just wants to get rid of it, but surely a snapped cambelt shouldn't make it this cheap. The bits that were damaged have been replaced?

GPT

2,742 posts

180 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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I thought the first generation Clio V6 was supposed to be a decent car?

Faust66

2,035 posts

165 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Matt_N said:
Ad said:
no tax been stood 4 months
And then:

Ad said:
car drives and goes as it should and have been using it a it is with out any problems
just trying to be up front noise might be nothing.
scratchchin
Agreed.

Not a great fan of FWD hot hatches, but there's something about this car that I quite like.

Seems like a lot of car for the money, but I'd check it over VERY carefully - if the seller has spent as much as he claims on recent parts etc, why is he selling now?

1st rule of bangernomics/cheap motoring: if you've spent a fortune bringing a car up to standard, run it for a while to get your money's worth.