RE: Open Season: Porsche 911 Turbo

RE: Open Season: Porsche 911 Turbo

Friday 11th February 2011

Open Season: Porsche 911 Turbo

Does the allegedly 'non-enthusiast' 911 Turbo cabrio stand up to the expectations created by that three-digit number? We find out...



For the most hardcore of Porsche fans, the 911 Turbo, especially in convertible guise, is often deemed to be a bit of a mongrel - not a pure-bred Porsche. It's too comfortable, they say, too two-dimensional, too much of a poseur's car to be a 'real' 911. In Harry Potter terms, a 911 Turbo convertible would be a 'mudblood'.

But is this most puritanical of views fair? Okay, so the 911 Turbo cab does seem to pander to the Malibu Beach tastes of the uncommitted enthusiast, and does seem to be used as a penis extension more than most 911s, but surely the folks in Stuttgart wouldn't actually let a 911 out of their factory gates that couldn't also cut it as a 'proper' driver's car?

To find out, we took a 911 Turbo cab (in oi-look-at-me yellow and with the almost-an-auto PDK gearbox, no less) along a 2000-year-old test route.


For those who are acquainted with the Fosse Way only as a line on the map, the modern remains of a Roman road that once speared up from Exeter in a north easterly direction all the way to Lincoln, my choice of using it to explore the depths of the 911's dynamic talent might seem slightly odd.

After all, the Romans were famous for the straightness of their roads, and the Fosse Way, in its original Romano-British incarnation, never deviated from a direct line between its extremities by more than six miles.

Despite how it may appear on your road atlas, however, the modern Fosse Way is far from an arrow-straight stretch of dull Tarmac. These days, the most southwesterly section of the original route has all but disappeared, while the north-east section between Leicester and Lincoln has become the dull and busy A46.


In between Cirencester and Leicester, the Fosse Way has become a series of rural A- and B-roads, with plenty of long straights, but also gaggles of interesting twists and turns where the road meanders from its original Roman route. There are also long sections of bumpy black top so pitted, rutted and rippled that this is where Jaguar and Land Rover engineers go to make sure their cars ride properly - if you can make a car work here, you can pretty much make it work anywhere.

So you see, while an old Roman road might not seem like much of a test on paper, in reality it should be quite a challenge for the 911 Turbo cab and reveal whether or not the arguably 'least Porsche-ey' of all 911s can wear the badge on its nose with pride.


I join the Fosse Way, heading northwards, at Stow-on-the-Wold. Here the road revels in the glamorous title of 'A429' and is one of the main routes up through the Cotswolds. As it is the main connection between several pretty Cotswold villages and market towns, it's heavy with both local and tourist traffic, but the Porsche's gale of torque available between 1950rpm all the way to 5000rpm (479lb ft of it, or 516lb ft from 2100rpm on overboost) is enough to despatch whole clumps of slow-moving motorists with ease.

So instant is the 911's mid-range punch, in fact, that it's one of those cars where you only need open the throttle for a small part of the overtaking manoeuvre; unless you are really chancing it there's no need to do anything other than simply cruise past after an initial stab of the throttle.


Just past the small village of Halford there's a quaint almost-but-not-quite roundabout (have a look at it on Streetview and you'll see what I mean), where the A-road leaves the route of the Fosse Way, and the B4455 takes up the baton. Predictably, the quality of the road surface deteriorates at this point, but the traffic thins - this is where the 911 Turbo cab is going to have to earn its spurs.

The straights prove the pace of the 911's twin-turbo 3.8-litre flat six beyond all sane doubt - this is a car that can hit 62mph from rest in 3.5secs and, boy, does it feel like it. Keep your foot down and the nose of the car just hoovers up the road, the engine all breathy, roaring induction, with the characteristic boxer growl in the background.

The bumpier B-road Tarmac, however, reveals the first possible chink in the turbo's thus-far impeccable pukka Porsche credentials - the bumpier it gets and the faster you go, the more you notice a bit of wobble. It's forgiveable, but it is a first reminder that this is a less-than-hardcore Porsche.

The mild wobbles are helped, however, by the optional dynamic engine mounts - part of the £2743 sport chrono package, although stick the 'Sport Plus' button on and the suspension will firm up sufficently to bring the wobbles back (keep that switch for the track only, would be our advice).


On the twistier bits, the 911 Turbo Cab again proves its mettle reasonably well. It's so fast that it occasionally feels like a point-and-squirt affair, but the brakes are typically confidence-inspiring and the steering has that-light-yet-solid feel that the relatively unladen nose of the 911 permits, without the front end succumbing to the gentle bobbing motion that once afflicted most 911s.

As the Fosse Way moves into Warwickshire it gets positively twisty (in parts), providing an opportunity to test the 911's cornering behaviour. As is to be expected of 911 Turbos, there's a good deal less adjustability than in two-wheel-drive 911s, but there are epic levels of grip, and the PDK gearbox is improved almost immeasurably by the simple switch of the infernal standard wheel-mounted rocker switches for column-mounted paddle shifters (a £283 option) - it's now both more intuitive and involving.


The road gets a little trickier to follow after you cross the A5, so I point the 911 back towards Dorset (where an afternoon with the inlaws awaits), with the sat-nav set to avoid motorways as much as possible, and try to decide if the 911 Turbo cab really is a 'proper' 911.

The answer arrives as the sun comes out and I find myself cruising through the countryside with the top down and full of the joys of an impending spring - it doesn't matter. Just for the record, I reckon the Turbo cab does involve the driver (just) enough to satisfy hardcore Porsche purists, but that's not the point.

The committed Porsche fans won't buy one of these, because they'll go for a simple Carrera, or a GT3, or even a GT3 RS instead. But if you want a car that's fast enough to blow away the most sticky of cobwebs and yet that can also allow you to experience the simple pleasures of open-top motoring, you could do a lot worse than a 911 Turbo cab.



   
   

 

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M666 EVO

Original Poster:

1,124 posts

162 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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WANT!

A true drivers car. Not sure about the yellow paint job (yellow only works with a Delta EVO) but everything else is purely awesome...

Thank you please

Riggers

1,859 posts

178 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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M666 EVO said:
WANT!

(yellow only works with a Delta EVO)
O/T I know but doesn't it just! Saw one parked on the local high street just yesterday and thought that it looked the nuts...

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Ooh, someone has been paying attention at the Photography sessions in the studio! wink

Nice photos Riggers, and a good read too. I did the old one, if you remember...

http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=47&i=1767...

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Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Beefmeister said:
Ooh, someone has been paying attention at the Photography sessions in the studio! wink

Nice photos Riggers, and a good read too. I did the old one, if you remember...

http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=47&i=1767...

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hehe Riggers didn't take the pics....

Riggers

1,859 posts

178 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Beefmeister said:
Ooh, someone has been paying attention at the Photography sessions in the studio! wink

Nice photos Riggers, and a good read too. I did the old one, if you remember...

http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=47&i=1767...

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Have to 'fess up on this one - Stuart took the statics and details. The only ones from me and my Fujifilm are the Fosse Way road sign ones...

Motorrad

6,811 posts

187 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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I was going to read the article until the harry potter reference at which point I decided to go and take a dump instead.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Riggers said:
Have to 'fess up on this one - Stuart took the statics and details. The only ones from me and my Fujifilm are the Fosse Way road sign ones...
Ah i see! Well in that case - nice pictures Stuart!

epom

11,514 posts

161 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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a bright yellow 911 turbo convertible...not for me thanks... I like my cars to be noticed !!! wink

Davey S2

13,096 posts

254 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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epom said:
a bright yellow 911 turbo convertible...not for me thanks... I like my cars to be noticed !!! wink
Which is quite ironic given that they are invisible in your profile

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Lightningman

1,228 posts

182 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Motorrad said:
I was going to read the article until the harry potter
Or the non-committal conclusion:

"But if you want a car that's fast enough to blow away the most sticky of cobwebs and yet that can also allow you to experience the simple pleasures of open-top motoring, you could do a lot worse than a 911 Turbo cab"

"You could do a lot worse" leaves the 'you could also do a lot better' on the table; in that case, what would be the better option?

Riggers

1,859 posts

178 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Lightningman said:
Motorrad said:
I was going to read the article until the harry potter
Or the non-committal conclusion:

"But if you want a car that's fast enough to blow away the most sticky of cobwebs and yet that can also allow you to experience the simple pleasures of open-top motoring, you could do a lot worse than a 911 Turbo cab"

"You could do a lot worse" leaves the 'you could also do a lot better' on the table; in that case, what would be the better option?
...which does rather require you to read the article first, or start back to front wink

I didn't want to give too definitive a verdict - I wanted to open a debate rather than make a hard-and-fast statement smile

However, if you want potentially better options in terms of open-top cobweb-removers, (IMHO, of course), I'd point you in the direction of an Ariel Atom, perhaps, or maybe a TVR Griffith. Or perhaps a Caterham R300. But then none of those would do such a good job of being an 'ordinary' car if required...

Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Riggers said:
I'd point you in the direction of an Ariel Atom, perhaps, or maybe a TVR Griffith. Or perhaps a Caterham R300. But then none of those would do such a good job of being an 'ordinary' car if required...
Sucks air through teeth......

Lightningman

1,228 posts

182 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Riggers said:
However, if you want potentially better options in terms of open-top cobweb-removers, (IMHO, of course), I'd point you in the direction of an Ariel Atom, perhaps, or maybe a TVR Griffith. Or perhaps a Caterham R300. But then none of those would do such a good job of being an 'ordinary' car if required...
However, and as you rightly point out "none of those would do such a good job of being an 'ordinary' car" and therefore, they are not direct comparisons.

Thus back to the point - if you could do a lot worse: what would do it better using the same criteria as the 911 Turbo Cab offers. smile

epom

11,514 posts

161 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Davey S2 said:
epom said:
a bright yellow 911 turbo convertible...not for me thanks... I like my cars to be noticed !!! wink
Which is quite ironic given that they are invisible in your profile

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harsh but true, but with my jet setting lifestyle and living the dream and all that i find it very hard to get time to update it silly

North West Tom

11,517 posts

177 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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I think I'd have an RS over this.

Riggers

1,859 posts

178 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Lightningman said:
Riggers said:
However, if you want potentially better options in terms of open-top cobweb-removers, (IMHO, of course), I'd point you in the direction of an Ariel Atom, perhaps, or maybe a TVR Griffith. Or perhaps a Caterham R300. But then none of those would do such a good job of being an 'ordinary' car if required...
However, and as you rightly point out "none of those would do such a good job of being an 'ordinary' car" and therefore, they are not direct comparisons.

Thus back to the point - if you could do a lot worse: what would do it better using the same criteria as the 911 Turbo Cab offers. smile
Ah, but my original point was about cars "fast enough to blow away the most sticky of cobwebs and yet that can also allow you to experience the simple pleasures of open-top motoring"

In which case I stick to my point about Griff, R500, Atom et al being potentially better in that regard. wink

If the criterion, however, is a soft-top that's as fast and yet as usable as a 911 Turbo Cab then, my friend, you rather have me at a loss - because I don't think there is one. Maybe and SL63 AMG knocks on the door, but I think the 911 takes the gold by that measurement...

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

218 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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North West Tom said:
I think I'd have an RS over this.
There not really about the same thing though are they, an RS on crap quality pot holed roads, with dodgey camber changes doesn't add up to 'great fun' it can be a drag and add up to impending accident.

george h

14,707 posts

164 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Love the colour, makes a change from the dreary greys and blacks you normally see 911s in.

M666 EVO

Original Poster:

1,124 posts

162 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Riggers said:
O/T I know but doesn't it just! Saw one parked on the local high street just yesterday and thought that it looked the nuts...
You really don't see that many anymore, which is a crying shame...


Lightningman

1,228 posts

182 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Riggers said:
If the criterion, however, is a soft-top that's as fast and yet as usable as a 911 Turbo Cab then, my friend, you rather have me at a loss - because I don't think there is one. Maybe and SL63 AMG knocks on the door, but I think the 911 takes the gold by that measurement...
Perhaps then (and I appreciate we (I am) are arguing semantics), it isn't possible to do better if the criteria on which we are judging the 911 Turbo Cab is: 4-seats, cabriolet, VERY rapid and excellent daily usability (reliability).

I appreciate that I am being pedantic but as above, 'you could do a lot worse' begs the question/makes the suggestion that you could also 'do better'. My opinion is that Porsche have carved a clever little niche for themselves with the 911 - and perhaps especially so with the Turbo cab. It is a 4-seater (albeit compromised in the rear), that is faster than 99% of the other cars on the road and offers the owner daily practicality, reliability and yet all the pleasure of an open top sports car.

While not a fan-boy nor a detractor, I cannot honestly think of another car that offers the same features in an identical package (perhaps the DBS Volante but the price point is higher and the quality questionable when compared to the Germanic offering).

Thanks for being good natured and taking my pedantic questioning in the manner intended. beer