what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

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ATM

18,366 posts

220 months

Tuesday 20th February
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jonny996 said:
I hope that’s cheaper to fix than it sounds.
Agreed

I'm hoping its very very rare and the other guy has really upset the Gods of Porsche Bork and therefore that is why this will never ever happen to Me.

gruntmonster

163 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th February
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ATM said:
Did you fix this yourself?

It was/is possible to DIY but due to family circumstances it was delivered to a garage to be repaired but as regarding parts new belt was £30 oil feed pipe £80 the cover cap was from eBay 2nd hand £55 as opposed to £480 although I saw some new ones on eBay for £280 and also needs a new coolant pipe a new bolt /bush and obviously labour and the dreaded VAT so when I get a total Friday on collection I will post total cost and bear in mind that will be proper cost not ‘tell the wife’ cost lol

gruntmonster

163 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th February
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ATM said:
Agreed

I'm hoping its very very rare and the other guy has really upset the Gods of Porsche Bork and therefore that is why this will never ever happen to Me.
I just have this vision tonight of the whole 996 community checking there alternators tonight !….apologies to all haha but if it saves even one of you from a failure then my job is done


Edited by gruntmonster on Tuesday 20th February 19:27

ATM

18,366 posts

220 months

Tuesday 20th February
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gruntmonster said:
ATM said:
Agreed

I'm hoping its very very rare and the other guy has really upset the Gods of Porsche Bork and therefore that is why this will never ever happen to Me.
I just have this vision tonight of the whole 996 community checking there alternators tonight !
Don't worry too much

I have no intention of checking mine

But I did just change the alternator and noticed no obvious problems - although not sure I really looked for this one

If you worry too much about all these potential problems you really shouldn't own an old Porsche

gruntmonster

163 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th February
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Don’t worry the pros easily out way the cons mine is staying put, this is certainly not my first or last old Porsche :-)

Edited by gruntmonster on Tuesday 20th February 20:55


Edited by gruntmonster on Tuesday 20th February 20:55

Philvrs

552 posts

98 months

Wednesday 21st February
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ATM said:
How do you know he only had it 5 months?

Fast Bug

11,772 posts

162 months

Wednesday 21st February
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I thought it was the car from Scotland

jonny996

2,622 posts

218 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Fast Bug said:
I thought it was the car from Scotland
That car is the one from Scotland

Fast Bug

11,772 posts

162 months

Wednesday 21st February
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jonny996 said:
Fast Bug said:
I thought it was the car from Scotland
That car is the one from Scotland
It was more of a statement than a question biggrin

I couldn't remember the guy from Scotland that owned it, so couldn't double check on instagram. It's had a wheel change which threw me a little smile

Mallone

207 posts

249 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Hippea said:
Potentially under £10k 996



https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1688762
Went and looked at this with a mate this evening.

Some evidence of a slightly poor paint job across the front wings and bonnet, the front bumper was showing a few standard parking dings and stone chips, but the tub was original, as was the bonnet. Spec stickers, paint stickers and factory paint/seam sealer in all the right places.

Not sure why it was classed as a Cat S. Other than the wings (presumed replaced based on what the seller said) and rough paint I couldn't see any evidence of any kind of serious shunt. Even taking the headlamps out and having a good poke around the front end of the car and into the wheel arches it all looked like fairly standard 26 year old 996.

Had shedloads of history up until about 10k miles ago, was clearly loved for the majority of its life, had a full dank exhaust system, including getting the manifolds drilled out and replaced, recent (pre shunt) work to get a load of the suspension arms sorted and had a nice early 996 spec - Sports seats, M030 suspension, LSD etc.

Drove it round the block and it felt very good. No rattles or knocks and it sounded mega with the exhaust.

It needs a bloody good major service, brakes all round, the AC is pretty weak, the paint sorting out and, based on the heavy pedal, will probably want a clutch in the next 10k miles or so.

My mate was happy to buy a car that needed a bit of TLC, he doesn't mind doing some of the spannering, and was looking for something felt special, that he could use as a weekend toy, all without worrying about having any real cash tied up in it.

He shook hands at £9k. I think that's insane value. He's over the moon!

HughG

3,553 posts

242 months

Thursday 22nd February
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Yep, particularly if he wants a car to use and isn’t worried about it being pristine sound like he got a good buy.

Hippea

1,857 posts

70 months

Thursday 22nd February
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Mallone said:
Hippea said:
Potentially under £10k 996



https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1688762
Went and looked at this with a mate this evening.

Some evidence of a slightly poor paint job across the front wings and bonnet, the front bumper was showing a few standard parking dings and stone chips, but the tub was original, as was the bonnet. Spec stickers, paint stickers and factory paint/seam sealer in all the right places.

Not sure why it was classed as a Cat S. Other than the wings (presumed replaced based on what the seller said) and rough paint I couldn't see any evidence of any kind of serious shunt. Even taking the headlamps out and having a good poke around the front end of the car and into the wheel arches it all looked like fairly standard 26 year old 996.

Had shedloads of history up until about 10k miles ago, was clearly loved for the majority of its life, had a full dank exhaust system, including getting the manifolds drilled out and replaced, recent (pre shunt) work to get a load of the suspension arms sorted and had a nice early 996 spec - Sports seats, M030 suspension, LSD etc.

Drove it round the block and it felt very good. No rattles or knocks and it sounded mega with the exhaust.

It needs a bloody good major service, brakes all round, the AC is pretty weak, the paint sorting out and, based on the heavy pedal, will probably want a clutch in the next 10k miles or so.

My mate was happy to buy a car that needed a bit of TLC, he doesn't mind doing some of the spannering, and was looking for something felt special, that he could use as a weekend toy, all without worrying about having any real cash tied up in it.

He shook hands at £9k. I think that's insane value. He's over the moon!
Fantastic, sounds like a great buy, a proper useable car with a bit of work. Is your friend on here? Would be good to see updates along the way

stuckmojo

2,993 posts

189 months

Thursday 22nd February
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Mallone said:
Went and looked at this with a mate this evening.

Some evidence of a slightly poor paint job across the front wings and bonnet, the front bumper was showing a few standard parking dings and stone chips, but the tub was original, as was the bonnet. Spec stickers, paint stickers and factory paint/seam sealer in all the right places.

Not sure why it was classed as a Cat S. Other than the wings (presumed replaced based on what the seller said) and rough paint I couldn't see any evidence of any kind of serious shunt. Even taking the headlamps out and having a good poke around the front end of the car and into the wheel arches it all looked like fairly standard 26 year old 996.

Had shedloads of history up until about 10k miles ago, was clearly loved for the majority of its life, had a full dank exhaust system, including getting the manifolds drilled out and replaced, recent (pre shunt) work to get a load of the suspension arms sorted and had a nice early 996 spec - Sports seats, M030 suspension, LSD etc.

Drove it round the block and it felt very good. No rattles or knocks and it sounded mega with the exhaust.

It needs a bloody good major service, brakes all round, the AC is pretty weak, the paint sorting out and, based on the heavy pedal, will probably want a clutch in the next 10k miles or so.

My mate was happy to buy a car that needed a bit of TLC, he doesn't mind doing some of the spannering, and was looking for something felt special, that he could use as a weekend toy, all without worrying about having any real cash tied up in it.

He shook hands at £9k. I think that's insane value. He's over the moon!
Great example of where the true value lies with these cars. It was the same with the G series and some 964 some 15 years ago.



Slippydiff

14,901 posts

224 months

Thursday 22nd February
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stuckmojo said:
Great example of where the true value lies with these cars. It was the same with the G series and some 964 some 15 years ago.
This ^

So I wonder, can we look forward to Rob Dickinson/Singer, Guntherwerks, Theon et all, building £300k to £1M carbon bodied, big horsepower restomodded 996 C2's in 10 years time ... scratchchin

ATM

18,366 posts

220 months

Thursday 22nd February
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Slippydiff said:
So I wonder, can we look forward to Rob Dickinson/Singer, Guntherwerks, Theon et all, building £300k to £1M carbon bodied, big horsepower restomodded 996 C2's in 10 years time ... scratchchin
You never know

RPM tried it with their CSR program but it was maybe too early

If the Singers get more and more expensive and the air cooled base cars in general too hard to source then the market may look for alternatives with a lower entry price

But that will probably just start with generic restorations like buying a 996 with engine rebuild, fresh paint and suspension etc.

I think the main hurdle is demand. The 996 is still the cheapest 911. If I look on ebay for an early [97 to 99] c2 manual coupe right now I find only 4 starting at 22,500 for the one below so not exactly lots available. If I change this to 2000 to 2004 I count 10 available.

The description mentions a lot of recent work which is interesting ... and it's parked on grass so ...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266681553016


Chris Stott

13,496 posts

198 months

Thursday 22nd February
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Mine’s going retro… I’ve bought ambers for it.

Not from choice… my dipped beam packed up again and the units are shot. New ones are ridiculously expensive and the prices being asked for 2nd hand units aren’t much better. Managed to pick up a left and a right amber separately for a reasonable price.

FriedMarsBar

249 posts

33 months

Thursday 22nd February
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ATM said:
You never know

RPM tried it with their CSR program but it was maybe too early

If the Singers get more and more expensive and the air cooled base cars in general too hard to source then the market may look for alternatives with a lower entry price

But that will probably just start with generic restorations like buying a 996 with engine rebuild, fresh paint and suspension etc.

I think the main hurdle is demand. The 996 is still the cheapest 911. If I look on ebay for an early [97 to 99] c2 manual coupe right now I find only 4 starting at 22,500 for the one below so not exactly lots available. If I change this to 2000 to 2004 I count 10 available.

The description mentions a lot of recent work which is interesting ... and it's parked on grass so ...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266681553016

This seems like a very well sorted car

Hippea

1,857 posts

70 months

Thursday 22nd February
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FriedMarsBar said:
ATM said:
You never know

RPM tried it with their CSR program but it was maybe too early

If the Singers get more and more expensive and the air cooled base cars in general too hard to source then the market may look for alternatives with a lower entry price

But that will probably just start with generic restorations like buying a 996 with engine rebuild, fresh paint and suspension etc.

I think the main hurdle is demand. The 996 is still the cheapest 911. If I look on ebay for an early [97 to 99] c2 manual coupe right now I find only 4 starting at 22,500 for the one below so not exactly lots available. If I change this to 2000 to 2004 I count 10 available.

The description mentions a lot of recent work which is interesting ... and it's parked on grass so ...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266681553016

This seems like a very well sorted car
That looks stunning, opinions on price?

Chris Stott

13,496 posts

198 months

Thursday 22nd February
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Hippea said:
That looks stunning, opinions on price?
What he says in the advert is true… you could buy one for less and then end up at his price getting it up to spec.

Looks like a very good car.

ATM

18,366 posts

220 months

Thursday 22nd February
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Chris Stott said:
Hippea said:
That looks stunning, opinions on price?
What he says in the advert is true… you could buy one for less and then end up at his price getting it up to spec.

Looks like a very good car.
Seller used the word Perfect in his description so we need to be assuming it's super sorted. If so the price is fair. However I still believe it's impossible to find one of these truly truly sorted. But the closer you can get the better.

I'm disappointed at the very unimaginative colour scheme. But I guess we can't have everything.

Curious about the underdrive pulley. I've seen the boxa owners club mention this a few times but not seen it much round these parts. Anyone here have experience of this mod?