Any love for the 997 GTS?
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Had Porsche gloss black and Basalt.
Would never, ever have a gloss black car again. It shows any and every mark. Definitely one for the garage queen owner rather than the daily driver/all seasons car.
Basalt has brown and gold overtones along with looking more dark grey than black on occasions, but it’s still a royal PITA to keep clean.
Would never, ever have a gloss black car again. It shows any and every mark. Definitely one for the garage queen owner rather than the daily driver/all seasons car.
Basalt has brown and gold overtones along with looking more dark grey than black on occasions, but it’s still a royal PITA to keep clean.
Slippydiff said:
Had Porsche gloss black and Basalt.
Would never, ever have a gloss black car again. It shows any and every mark. Definitely one for the garage queen owner rather than the daily driver/all seasons car.
Basalt has brown and gold overtones along with looking more dark grey than black on occasions, but it’s still a royal PITA to keep clean.
I used to keep mine polished with Bilt Hamber Auto Balm. But yes, a PITA and the solid black cars are worse I understand,Would never, ever have a gloss black car again. It shows any and every mark. Definitely one for the garage queen owner rather than the daily driver/all seasons car.
Basalt has brown and gold overtones along with looking more dark grey than black on occasions, but it’s still a royal PITA to keep clean.
Louis Balfour said:
There MIGHT be one out there. But if you find it there is nothing to say it won’t be high miles, poor order, incomplete history etc..
You are better off imho being less picky on spec, so that you have a wider choice of good cars.
As said, when I bought a few years ago, white was the lowest colour preference, but the car that had the best history, value, etc and manual, alcantara was white. nothing is perfect, so I have a white car. Black in general photographs beautifully when clean, but can be frustrating day to day if you like a clean looking car. Silver is generally my go-to for that reasonYou are better off imho being less picky on spec, so that you have a wider choice of good cars.
MC99 said:
Louis Balfour said:
There MIGHT be one out there. But if you find it there is nothing to say it won’t be high miles, poor order, incomplete history etc..
You are better off imho being less picky on spec, so that you have a wider choice of good cars.
As said, when I bought a few years ago, white was the lowest colour preference, but the car that had the best history, value, etc and manual, alcantara was white. nothing is perfect, so I have a white car. Black in general photographs beautifully when clean, but can be frustrating day to day if you like a clean looking car. Silver is generally my go-to for that reasonYou are better off imho being less picky on spec, so that you have a wider choice of good cars.
MC99 said:
Louis Balfour said:
There MIGHT be one out there. But if you find it there is nothing to say it won’t be high miles, poor order, incomplete history etc..
You are better off imho being less picky on spec, so that you have a wider choice of good cars.
As said, when I bought a few years ago, white was the lowest colour preference, but the car that had the best history, value, etc and manual, alcantara was white. nothing is perfect, so I have a white car. Black in general photographs beautifully when clean, but can be frustrating day to day if you like a clean looking car. Silver is generally my go-to for that reasonYou are better off imho being less picky on spec, so that you have a wider choice of good cars.
Louis Balfour said:
There’s always wrapping…
I did consider the 'spray wrap' idea - but really couldn't commit to it at the cost, may as well spend a bit more and do a full colour change. Then it becomes a game of enjoying what you want vs sanity when no one but you cares what colour your car is or how much dirt it shows. I've kept it as it is.Nice manual one listed.
https://www.archersportscars.co.uk/used/cars/porsc...
but its Basalt.
Pricey aren't they - they are more expensive that say a 997 Turbo S of similar milage https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312084...
https://www.archersportscars.co.uk/used/cars/porsc...
but its Basalt.
Pricey aren't they - they are more expensive that say a 997 Turbo S of similar milage https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312084...
julian987R said:
Nice manual one listed.
https://www.archersportscars.co.uk/used/cars/porsc...
but its Basalt.
Pricey aren't they - they are more expensive that say a 997 Turbo S of similar milage https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312084...
pricy yes, but same here in NL, such GTS manual cost around 110k eur here.https://www.archersportscars.co.uk/used/cars/porsc...
but its Basalt.
Pricey aren't they - they are more expensive that say a 997 Turbo S of similar milage https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312084...
Turbo S 997.2 is a automatic so... same about here mostley less then a GTS but with a manual they cost like a good GTS and 20-30k more in some occasions, the manual 997.2 Turbo is very rare.
GTRene said:
julian987R said:
Nice manual one listed.
https://www.archersportscars.co.uk/used/cars/porsc...
but its Basalt.
Pricey aren't they - they are more expensive that say a 997 Turbo S of similar milage https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312084...
pricy yes, but same here in NL, such GTS manual cost around 110k eur here.https://www.archersportscars.co.uk/used/cars/porsc...
but its Basalt.
Pricey aren't they - they are more expensive that say a 997 Turbo S of similar milage https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312084...
Turbo S 997.2 is a automatic so... same about here mostley less then a GTS but with a manual they cost like a good GTS and 20-30k more in some occasions, the manual 997.2 Turbo is very rare.
Wasn't that the last of the Mezger engine ?
Having said that, the engine thatbreplaced it in the 991 doesn't appear to have had any issues ... just the confusion that other than the GT cars they are all now Turbos ?
P.S. I find the non-UK contributions (I am based in the UK) to these posts particularly interesting, thank-you!
Having said that, the engine thatbreplaced it in the 991 doesn't appear to have had any issues ... just the confusion that other than the GT cars they are all now Turbos ?
P.S. I find the non-UK contributions (I am based in the UK) to these posts particularly interesting, thank-you!
julian987R said:
Seems about £20k overpriced! There was I believe a lower miles car for about £10k cheaper If I remember correctly the 997.1 had the Mezger. The 997.1.5 was essentially the 997.1 Mezger with the .2 interior (so black centre console switchgear instead of grey and PCM3).
The 997.2 Turbo had the new 3.8 and was available with a manual gearbox (but super rare on the market as most went for PDK). The 997.2 Turbo S was PDK only.
I’d quite happily have either GTS or Turbo - I think the 997 is the new 993.
The 997.2 Turbo had the new 3.8 and was available with a manual gearbox (but super rare on the market as most went for PDK). The 997.2 Turbo S was PDK only.
I’d quite happily have either GTS or Turbo - I think the 997 is the new 993.
Thanks for the clarification .... my only 911 Turbo was X50 996 ... which had terrible brakes that nearly got me into trouble when a tractor pulled out in front of me. It was the only time (other than taking tuition at Spa) when I thought there was a possibility that I wasn't going to able to slow down in time ...
The other at Spa was with Sean Edwards at the end of the Kemel straight. He had told me that I was braking too early and said on the next lap that he would tell me what to do. As he felt me starting to lift the instructions went "full throttle, full throttle, full throttle, brake now". There was a short escape route straight on but miraculously the car trail braked onto the apex of the right / left to which at the mid-point, Sean said "full throttle".
I bailed !!
This was in a 964 RS N-GT .... great days.
The other at Spa was with Sean Edwards at the end of the Kemel straight. He had told me that I was braking too early and said on the next lap that he would tell me what to do. As he felt me starting to lift the instructions went "full throttle, full throttle, full throttle, brake now". There was a short escape route straight on but miraculously the car trail braked onto the apex of the right / left to which at the mid-point, Sean said "full throttle".
I bailed !!
This was in a 964 RS N-GT .... great days.
MasterofMuppets said:
If I remember correctly the 997.1 had the Mezger. The 997.1.5 was essentially the 997.1 Mezger with the .2 interior (so black centre console switchgear instead of grey and PCM3).
The 997.2 Turbo had the new 3.8 and was available with a manual gearbox (but super rare on the market as most went for PDK). The 997.2 Turbo S was PDK only.
I’d quite happily have either GTS or Turbo - I think the 997 is the new 993.
I believe its indeed like that, if you want the 530ps from the 997.2 Turbo S and a manual, you would have to go 1 back to the 530ps 997.1 GT2 but then you loose the 4wd and get RWD only which spares some weight lol.The 997.2 Turbo had the new 3.8 and was available with a manual gearbox (but super rare on the market as most went for PDK). The 997.2 Turbo S was PDK only.
I’d quite happily have either GTS or Turbo - I think the 997 is the new 993.
or you can choose a 997.2 look GT2 RS all manual and 612 os ps in the GT2 RS with the 3.6 modified (old?) engine, oooh for me the top 997 but way to expensive for me.
GT4P said:
julian987R said:
Seems about £20k overpriced! There was I believe a lower miles car for about £10k cheaper P.Griffin said:
GT4P said:
julian987R said:
Seems about £20k overpriced! There was I believe a lower miles car for about £10k cheaper Cheib said:
P.Griffin said:
GT4P said:
julian987R said:
Seems about £20k overpriced! There was I believe a lower miles car for about £10k cheaper Gassing Station | 911/Carrera GT | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff