The 997 Appreciation Thread

[ATM]

Filibuster said:

MrJuice said:

I think 10k is as much as I am going to get hassle free

spending £12k today to maybe get £30k in a a couple of months

30k is way too optimistic. The 3.8S fully rebuilt and repainted car couldn't find a buyer at 27k.

[Terry Winks]

ATM said:

Filibuster said:

MrJuice said:

I think 10k is as much as I am going to get hassle free

spending £12k today to maybe get £30k in a a couple of months

30k is way too optimistic. The 3.8S fully rebuilt and repainted car couldn't find a buyer at 27k.

That one I couldn't understand, looked like a great buy for someone.

[Matt_E46]

ATM said:

He just did - 5 minutes before your post. He is going to take the 10k.

Not having much luck today.

With regard to the rebuilt 3.8S I wanted to go and view that one but had zero response to my messages. It had 8 previous owners and over 100k which also may have been a put off for some.

Just my 2 cents

[Filibuster]

Terry Winks said:

ATM said:

Filibuster said:

MrJuice said:

I think 10k is as much as I am going to get hassle free

spending £12k today to maybe get £30k in a a couple of months

30k is way too optimistic. The 3.8S fully rebuilt and repainted car couldn't find a buyer at 27k.

That one I couldn't understand, looked like a great buy for someone.

Neither can I, but there must be something with that car. I mean in the meantime lots of 997 have sold in the UK. Many of them for more than £27k, or at least I presume so.

Maybe the seller is an odd fellow, or the car has a hidden secret, who knows. As far as I know, the car has been SORN and you couldn't test drive it. At least not since the last discount. This surely didn't help either. I know that grey car is to great interest to ATM But it is not the one car every other 997 has to compare to. But I'm not informed as profound as others on here regarding values of 997.

Anyhow, just had a browse around mobile.de and compared to the continent, prices in the uk are ridiculously cheap. In Germany cars with 150k miles, non oe wheels and work needing to be done to pass TÜV sold privately are up for £30k. And also non runners and accident cars demand as much.

[Sukh13]

The problem is that 997 values are on the decline more widely.

This CSR .2 which has close to 20k of mods sold for 34k
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2010-porsche-9...


And this OPC maintained .2 with high mileage sold for 24k
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2008-porsche-9...

In that context get selling a rebuilt .1 in a few months for 30k looks like a low chance...

[RDMcG]

Last driving day of 2023 for my 16 year old RS:

[braddo]

RDMcG said:

Last driving day of 2023 for my 16 year old RS:

Is it a case of just pumping up the tyres really hard and coming back to it in 6 months?

Apologies if you've written here before!

[GTRene]

Sukh13 said:

The problem is that 997 values are on the decline more widely.

This CSR .2 which has close to 20k of mods sold for 34k
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2010-porsche-9...

In that context get selling a rebuilt .1 in a few months for 30k looks like a low chance...

wow, thats cheap! and looks like a nice example.

[RDMcG]

braddo said:

Is it a case of just pumping up the tyres really hard and coming back to it in 6 months?

Apologies if you've written here before!

yep- I just fill it up, unlpug the battery, leave it in gear and that's that. I have later GT3RS which are best kept boosted, a 991.1 and a 992. The latter has a lithium battery that requires a different charger but I am not very compulsive about this stuff. They're machines, not my kids......

[ATM]

Terry Winks said:

ATM said:

Filibuster said:

MrJuice said:

I think 10k is as much as I am going to get hassle free

spending £12k today to maybe get £30k in a a couple of months

30k is way too optimistic. The 3.8S fully rebuilt and repainted car couldn't find a buyer at 27k.

That one I couldn't understand, looked like a great buy for someone.

Who knows

Maybe she got some low ball offers but after dropping from 32k wasn't inclined to drop some more. I know some buyers expect a 10% haircut on advertised price. All speculation unless someone contacts her and has a look at the car.

[Filibuster]

Sukh13 said:

The problem is that 997 values are on the decline more widely.

This CSR .2 which has close to 20k of mods sold for 34k
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2010-porsche-9...


And this OPC maintained .2 with high mileage sold for 24k
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2008-porsche-9...

In that context get selling a rebuilt .1 in a few months for 30k looks like a low chance...

I said it before: we will be looking at 997 prices like these the same way we are looking back at 964 prices from 20 years ago.
I remember looking at 964 ads in the early 00's when the 964 was the cheapest 911 you could buy.

The silver car is incredible vfm. Someone got a real bargain there! This would be a £40-50k in Switzerland/Germany/BENELUX.
How this sold for only £22k is beyond me. Also, there are no buyers premium on CC, or is there?

ETA: ATM just told me 6%+VAT buyers premium. So an other £1.5k on top makes still only for £23.5k

Edited by Filibuster on Friday 17th November 07:31

[ATM]

Filibuster said:

Also, there are no buyers premium on CC, or is there?

6% plus VAT

[Filibuster]

RDMcG said:

Last driving day of 2023 for my 16 year old RS:

With all those posts about prices and what can go wrong on these (I'm guilty too, mind) thanks for posting these wonderful pics, appreciating what great cars the 997 range has to offer!

Much envy for those big parking spaces, coming just back from the multistorey car park where I have the 997. The places are only 2.50m wide

Happy hibernation to your RS

[Sukh13]

Filibuster said:

Sukh13 said:

The problem is that 997 values are on the decline more widely.

This CSR .2 which has close to 20k of mods sold for 34k
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2010-porsche-9...


And this OPC maintained .2 with high mileage sold for 24k
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2008-porsche-9...

In that context get selling a rebuilt .1 in a few months for 30k looks like a low chance...

I said it before: we will be looking at 997 prices like these the same way we are looking back at 964 prices from 20 years ago.
I remember looking at 964 ads in the early 00's when the 964 was the cheapest 911 you could buy.

The silver car is incredible vfm. Someone got a real bargain there! This would be a £40-50k in Switzerland/Germany/BENELUX.
How this sold for only £22k is beyond me. Also, there are no buyers premium on CC, or is there?

ETA: ATM just told me 6%+VAT buyers premium. So an other £1.5k on top makes still only for £23.5k

Edited by Filibuster on Friday 17th November 07:31

The prices I included in my post include the premium and VAT which is how I got to 24k

[ATM]

Sukh13 said:

The prices I included in my post include the premium and VAT which is how I got to 24k

We need a new acronym

I propose - inc CCT

Including Collecting Cars Tax

Price was 24k inc CCT

[Terry Winks]

So when mine goes in for new aero front and Ducktail and needs paint…. midnight blue was a big selling point in a sea of silver and black…. But if it’s going in for paint….. Fjord Green keeps luring me in

[ATM]

Terry Winks said:

So when mine goes in for new aero front and Ducktail and needs paint…. midnight blue was a big selling point in a sea of silver and black…. But if it’s going in for paint….. Fjord Green keeps luring me in

Caution about Ducktails

If you have OCD about even panel gaps and straight shut lines

You might not like the Ducktail

I dont have any ideal pics but maybe this shows a bit of the problem

[Slippydiff]

ATM said:

Caution about Ducktails

If you have OCD about even panel gaps and straight shut lines

You might not like the Ducktail

I dont have any ideal pics but maybe this shows a bit of the problem

And the RPMT item is allegedly the best of them from that perspective.
Though I’m guessing that item was if not the first, then a very early iteration, so later mouldings may have improved.
The Yanks seem pretty smitten with the RPMT item, but the shutline between the bumper and the ducktail is still less than stellar on this car :



I’d say it was an adjustment issue, but the owner had to take a dremmel to the ducktail due to it fouling in a couple of places, so one wonders if the fitment isn’t quite as good as it’s supposed to be.

[RiccardoG]

RDMcG said:

yep- I just fill it up, unlpug the battery, leave it in gear and that's that. I have later GT3RS which are best kept boosted, a 991.1 and a 992. The latter has a lithium battery that requires a different charger but I am not very compulsive about this stuff. They're machines, not my kids......

Mine (C4S) will go into hibernation in December. Similar process to yours: pump-up tyres, full tank, wash, battery off (take mine indoors), handbrale off, 1st gear, frunk blocked so it doesn't lock itself, soft cover.

Can't remember why its best to leave in gear any longer. Why was that...?

[braddo]

RiccardoG said:

Mine (C4S) will go into hibernation in December. Similar process to yours: pump-up tyres, full tank, wash, battery off (take mine indoors), handbrale off, 1st gear, frunk blocked so it doesn't lock itself, soft cover.

Can't remember why its best to leave in gear any longer. Why was that...?

How do you block the frunk?

Leaving in gear - I think it's so the handbrake doesn't seize on.