The 997 Appreciation Thread

The 997 Appreciation Thread

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Terry Winks

1,232 posts

14 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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braddo said:
How do you block the frunk?
Piece of cardboard so it can't shut is easily enough. What are these garages you talk about though? Mine is still full of st from a house move a year ago!

Filibuster

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3,177 posts

216 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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Terry Winks said:
braddo said:
How do you block the frunk?
Piece of cardboard so it can't shut is easily enough. What are these garages you talk about though? Mine is still full of st from a house move a year ago!
I made a habit of leaving the trunk popped open when parked in the multistorage parking unless I know I need the car again within the next 10 days. On my black car in a not so well garage parked facing the wall, you can’t see wether it is popped open. And people would probably mistake it for an open bonnet anyhow laugh

It won‘t latch itself unless you press on it or something would fall on it. No need for a piece of cardboard.

Terry Winks

1,232 posts

14 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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This is true, but belt and braces.... but ask me how mine is stuck on the drive with a total dead battery and closed frunk.... no please do ranting

chris_w

2,564 posts

260 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Terry Winks said:
This is true, but belt and braces.... but ask me how mine is stuck on the drive with a total dead battery and closed frunk.... no please do ranting
Well, we’ve all resisted the temptation… smile hope it’s sorted.

Do you have a thread anywhere on your car?

Terry Winks

1,232 posts

14 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Yeah, it's all good. January I am getting brutal with what's in the garage, so the 911 can finally go in there, been a year now full out ste.

I don't have my own thread I posted some of the things I want to do on the 997 General Discussion thread though.

Nurburgsingh

5,135 posts

239 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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i have the flashing light Cteck connectors bolted onto the terminals and when I park it up I feed the connector up by the wipers and then I can keep an eye on the charge and connect it intermitantly as required.
I still leave the frunk open too.


For those who take the battery out... how do you stop the alarm going off? - I did this last year on the 987 but ended up having to pull the plug on the siren to shut it up

Filibuster

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3,177 posts

216 months

Thursday 14th December 2023
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My old girls just passed the MFK (Swiss MOT) this morning. party
You can read about it in my readers car threadwink

RiccardoG

1,610 posts

273 months

Thursday 14th December 2023
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Nurburgsingh said:
For those who take the battery out... how do you stop the alarm going off? - I did this last year on the 987 but ended up having to pull the plug on the siren to shut it up
The battery on my 997 is out as I write this, never had the alarm going off when reconnecting the battery. Was your car unlocked with the remote when you went to disconnect the battery?

The other option is to make sure that the key is in the ignition when you reconnect it.

ATM

18,366 posts

220 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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4.1 Hartech
Manual
C4S
Cab
2007

35 grand

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311254...


GTRene

16,772 posts

225 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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ATM said:
4.1 Hartech
Manual
C4S
Cab
2007

35 grand

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311254...

thats cheap, such engine 4.1 alone cost a little fortune.

PRO 5T

4,046 posts

26 months

Thursday 25th January
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PRO 5T said:
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2006-porsche-9...

ALERT ALERT

A none aerokit'd 997.1 with a an aerokit front bumper and crucially, looks to have been Hartech'd going by the invoices coming soon on CC
Cross posting from another thread but this looks nice coming soon on CC

Louis Balfour

26,495 posts

223 months

Thursday 25th January
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PRO 5T said:
PRO 5T said:
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2006-porsche-9...

ALERT ALERT

A none aerokit'd 997.1 with a an aerokit front bumper and crucially, looks to have been Hartech'd going by the invoices coming soon on CC
Cross posting from another thread but this looks nice coming soon on CC
Very shiny contact points for only 50k miles.

ATM

18,366 posts

220 months

Thursday 25th January
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Louis Balfour said:
PRO 5T said:
PRO 5T said:
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2006-porsche-9...

ALERT ALERT

A none aerokit'd 997.1 with a an aerokit front bumper and crucially, looks to have been Hartech'd going by the invoices coming soon on CC
Cross posting from another thread but this looks nice coming soon on CC
Very shiny contact points for only 50k miles.
It looks like the invoice from Hartech was only 6 grand ish. So supply of their liners and pistons to a block with big ends too and some cyl head rework. Then another invoice from Design 911 for a few hundred for various other engine building bits and pieces. So someone else has done the actual engine build using the block and heads after Hartech had them. A full Hartech engine build would be around 13k I believe.

This is something I've commented on before as it's tempting to attempt something like this myself but with zero experience most of the replies I got on here were do not bother and leave it to the experts. But it does seem to appear that you can have an engine with the Hartech goodies for much less than 13k depending on how much the rest of the build costs you. No comment from me on the robustness of a home brew engine build. This is all very recent so not sure how much action the engine has seen since.

One of the Hartech goodies missing I think is their work around the IMS and machining to fit the better version but not sure if that's relevant to this engine.

Relatively low miles around 50000 on the car and still needed new liners and pistons which we can assume was bore score but could have been for another reason too or just because the owner wanted to.

MOT history looks quite clean - J50 PCE

Only other thing worth mentioning is the car just misses the higher tax bracket by a few days being 1st March 2006. £395 as apposed to £700.

PRO 5T

4,046 posts

26 months

Thursday 25th January
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Hartech invoice says "Supply and fit", I wondered if it was either done as preventative maintenance which meant it was cheaper (as no damage had occurred) or if the owner removed the engine and stripped it down for Hartech thus removing a lot of the labour charges?

ATM

18,366 posts

220 months

Thursday 25th January
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PRO 5T said:
Hartech invoice says "Supply and fit", I wondered if it was either done as preventative maintenance which meant it was cheaper (as no damage had occurred) or if the owner removed the engine and stripped it down for Hartech thus removing a lot of the labour charges?
I think this can only mean the liners were fitted to the short block already supplied. Isn't that what they did on Wheeler Dealers?

It mentions pistons were only supplied. So a bare block machined and fitted with their liners. Then a box of new shiny pistons supplied only is what I'd assume this to mean.

Although they also mention big end bearings so these could have been supplied only or fitted to the short block I'm not sure. If these were fitted implies the block had the crank installed with rods and pistons but for the cheapish total I'd say not likely.


Filibuster

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3,177 posts

216 months

Thursday 25th January
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Looks so much older (in a good way) than it's newer cousin.

Nuno AD

22 posts

123 months

Thursday 25th January
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Filibuster said:


Looks so much older (in a good way) than it's newer cousin.
The new one looks bulkier. Although the 997 c4(s) has the same width as the current 992 (I could believe it either but it’s true).

Is that St. Paul’s church in the background?

Adrian-9iafn

295 posts

73 months

Friday 26th January
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The size difference overall is too much for me, My 991.1 is about the limit, I prefer the size of my 997 and the 992 is more GT saloon

maz8062

2,274 posts

216 months

Monday 29th January
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GTRene said:
ATM said:
4.1 Hartech
Manual
C4S
Cab
2007

35 grand

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311254...

thats cheap, such engine 4.1 alone cost a little fortune.
For the life of me I don’t understand why folk spend all that money (£15k plus) for a Hartech engine bore increase. It’s like throwing money down the drain.

No matter what is done to an ageing 996 or 997, it can’t be more expensive than the model up, in this case a .2 S. Also, outside of forums and the internet very few know what a Hartech rebuild is never mind a bore increase, so they just go by it’s age, mileage and value against others.

I can see the temptation and the man maths but I’m yet to see one advertised or sold at any where near the cost of the rebuild. Folk should fix these cars in the cheapest way possible.

maz8062

2,274 posts

216 months

Monday 29th January
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GTRene said:
ATM said:
4.1 Hartech
Manual
C4S
Cab
2007

35 grand

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311254...

thats cheap, such engine 4.1 alone cost a little fortune.
For the life of me I don’t understand why folk spend all that money (£15k plus) for a Hartech engine bore increase. It’s like throwing money down the drain.

No matter what is done to an ageing 996 or 997, it can’t be more expensive than the model up, in this case a .2 S. Also, outside of forums and the internet very few know what a Hartech rebuild is never mind a bore increase, so they just go by it’s age, mileage and value against others.

I can see the temptation and the man maths but I’m yet to see one advertised or sold at any where near the cost of the rebuild. Folk should fix these cars in the cheapest way possible.