997 GTS, Turbo S, 991.2 - Confusing myself with indecision

997 GTS, Turbo S, 991.2 - Confusing myself with indecision

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KEVS500

86 posts

236 months

Thursday 14th March
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Collecting Cars has a nice 997.2 S PDK cab (low miles, FPSH) ending tomorrow.
I could be persuaded to part with my lovely grey 997 GTS PDK with 29k miles, FPSH and 2 year Porsche warranty for £65k but it's not a cab.

Cheib

23,348 posts

177 months

Thursday 14th March
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Venosta said:
997 GTS or a really nice 997.2 S are in the lead right now. With Porsche warranty.

Either way, has to be a cabrio and can't be white (wife).

Manual preferred, PDK OK. Ideally 2 rather than 4 for my needs.

The problem is finding a good one.

I have noticed that 997.2 S cabrios have hung around (probably due to winter) although GTS cabrios seem to be moving.

And then as wait goes on too long, the eye wanders. There are so many 997.2 Turbo S cabrios for sale, nice ones too. And lots of 991s. As well as all those other marques, there is no shortage of choice of modern 2+2s at the £45k-£65k mark, from DB9s and Californias to M8 Cabrios (very different to a 911 I know).
997.2 PDK Carrera S Cab coming soon on CC…quite like it in blue.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2011-porsche-9...

Venosta

Original Poster:

75 posts

9 months

Saturday 16th March
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KEVS500 said:
Collecting Cars has a nice 997.2 S PDK cab (low miles, FPSH) ending tomorrow.
I could be persuaded to part with my lovely grey 997 GTS PDK with 29k miles, FPSH and 2 year Porsche warranty for £65k but it's not a cab.
Got excited there for a moment about your car - the CC one looks nice but quite high mileage. But it has to be a cab. Shame…

Venosta

Original Poster:

75 posts

9 months

Saturday 16th March
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There was also (as a matter of record) a 997 GTS Cabrio on CC last week. A nice looking car with a slightly strange spec, bucket seats and plastic dash and PDK with no alcantara. It sold for around £50k including fees, a good buy for someone. But I wouldn’t want buckets for daily driving.

SL550M

596 posts

112 months

Saturday 16th March
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OP, you might want to take a look at Ashgoods in Slough. They have a couple of nice 997.2 cabs in stock at the moment, one of them a particularly smart GTS and the other what appears to be a good value S with a solid history. This dealer always prices their cars very competitively. No vested interest from me, I might add.

Cheib

23,348 posts

177 months

Saturday 16th March
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Venosta said:
There was also (as a matter of record) a 997 GTS Cabrio on CC last week. A nice looking car with a slightly strange spec, bucket seats and plastic dash and PDK with no alcantara. It sold for around £50k including fees, a good buy for someone. But I wouldn’t want buckets for daily driving.
I wouldn’t want buckets for driving either but those buckets are worth £££

I think you could easily make yourself £5k selling those and sourcing a set of OEM replacements.

MC99

413 posts

188 months

Monday 18th March
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Cheib said:
I wouldn’t want buckets for driving either but those buckets are worth £££

I think you could easily make yourself £5k selling those and sourcing a set of OEM replacements.
definitely agree, 4-5k if in good condition - would be gone soon enough

Venosta

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75 posts

9 months

Sunday 24th March
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Thank you everyone - just back after a week away. The 997 RWD GTS cabrios around at the moment all just don't quite tick the box: there'a a nice one with full alcantara which I like but it's white, which my wife doesn't; and a black one with no alcantara which is just a bit of a shame.

If anyone knows of a nice low-ish miles non-white 997 GTS cabrio with alcantara..these do pop up only very occasionally it seems. I'm fine with PDK or manual, understanding the manual premium.

In the absence of suitable 997 GTSs the eye wanders, but this thread has put me off 997 Turbo Ss. Eye has wandered to DB9s though.

Venosta

Original Poster:

75 posts

9 months

Wednesday 27th March
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Update, if anyone’s still reading this. With no suitable 997 GTSs around and the need to purchase approaching - by next month at least - the eye has strayed.

991.2 S pre-PPF with sport exhaust and sport chrono, manual.

Porsche warranty. Great colour. V tempting.

But essentially the same engine and similar car to the 992 S PDK I got bored of…

Or, my wife is pushing for a DB9, 2014 vintage for the same as the above or a 997 GTS. I like the idea of being James Bond (I know he had a DBS) but every day…and I also like the idea of a manual 991.2. I’ve driven a manual 992 GT3, I know, different car, and loved it.

All subjective at this stage I guess.

Geneve

3,872 posts

221 months

Wednesday 27th March
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Wise choice.
I went from 991.1 C4 PDK to 991.2 GT3 Touring to 991.2 C2 Manual - and, for ‘real world’ use, the base car is by far the sweetest IMO.

Mine might be for sale, as I do have a 992 Manual in build. It is a lovely example - pre-PF, PSE, FPSH, PTS, etc, and Warranty to end March ‘25 (just had its annual inspection and detail).

Wouldn’t want to get into a discussion here, but by all means PM me if you want more info.

maura

181 posts

25 months

Wednesday 27th March
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Geneve said:
Wise choice.
I went from 991.1 C4 PDK to 991.2 GT3 Touring to 991.2 C2 Manual - and, for ‘real world’ use, the base car is by far the sweetest IMO.

Mine might be for sale, as I do have a 992 Manual in build. It is a lovely example - pre-PF, PSE, FPSH, PTS, etc, and Warranty to end March ‘25 (just had its annual inspection and detail).

Wouldn’t want to get into a discussion here, but by all means PM me if you want more info.
Base is sweet indeed, but probably the sweetest is a manual 991.2 T.. not many about but if in budget worth taking the time to investigate another option.. the Interior T Package is similar to the GTS Interior Pack as well, which I think you were leaning towards having earlier.

https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/porsche-sales/vehicle/991...


Edited by maura on Wednesday 27th March 23:25

Venosta

Original Poster:

75 posts

9 months

Thursday 28th March
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Thank you, folks. I forgot to remention that any car I buy needs to be a cabrio, on my wife's orders. So unless someone has one of those for sale...

Ir's so true about the T and if they'd made a cabrio of those that's what I would be eyeing.

Anyway I am going to look at the 991.2 S manual cabrio on Saturday and if I love it I may just buy it and that will be the end of this thread. If not..the DB9 question will come back inevitably.

Venosta

Original Poster:

75 posts

9 months

Monday 20th May
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Updating this thread that I started. Still waiting to pull the trigger. Saw a couple of 997 GTSs but they were not as advertised.

Sliiiiightly wary of 991.2 GTS because of the similarities with 992 S I bought new and sold because it was a bit too dull at normal speeds.

Now planning to look at a vg spec 991.1 GTS which wasn’t on the original list. I have driven one but don’t know if it’s a case of the NA experience growing better over time while turbos start out entertaining but become less so.

I’m not fanatically pro or anti turbos but all my favourite cars I own and have owned seem to be NA.

I believe the chassis on the 1.2 GTS was a bit more fun too which is why I didn’t consider the 1.1 before. Maybe that’s wrong.

Hmmm

Edited by Venosta on Monday 20th May 23:38

KittyLitter

217 posts

2 months

Monday 20th May
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Venosta said:
Updating this thread that I started. Still waiting to pull the trigger. Saw a couple of 997 GTSs but they were not as advertised.

Hmmm

Edited by Venosta on Monday 20th May 23:38
You should consider this instead of being squarely focussed on a 911, when the cab part is so key to your criteria.




https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/used-por...

or the 981 Spyder

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404238...

- either way, surely your criteria is more that of a mid engine Boxster?
The ' 2+2 for occasional back seat use' - forget that, they can take the bus or their own car smile





Edited by KittyLitter on Tuesday 21st May 00:00

findtomdotcom

699 posts

242 months

Tuesday 21st May
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I was a bit surprised you discounted the 991.1GTS. I had both a 991.1 and a 991.2 GTS. I loved the 991.1 and would go as far as to say it was once of the best cars I have owned. I never quite got on with my 991.2, (it was a 2019 so had the PPF filters which made quite a big difference to the sound). I actually preferred my 992 C4S that followed it, which as you say was a very similar engine setup to the 991.2.

Given your choices I’d go 991.1 GTS.






Venosta

Original Poster:

75 posts

9 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Thank you

Re the Cayman/Boxster etc I am a big fan but I need back seats. 2+2 very useful for 3 people or 4 on short journeys roof down. I have Ferraris with 2 seats for other use.

V interesting re 991.1 GTS. I guess a lot of this is personal taste, but if details check out it may be an excellent alternative.

KittyLitter

217 posts

2 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Venosta said:
Thank you

Re the Cayman/Boxster etc I am a big fan but I need back seats. 2+2 very useful for 3 people or 4 on short journeys roof down. I have Ferraris with 2 seats for other use.

V interesting re 991.1 GTS. I guess a lot of this is personal taste, but if details check out it may be an excellent alternative.
Ok, therefore it has to be - and something you didn't list - but considering you want a cab, then...


https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16664669


explore the 991 Targa option, I sense you might have overlooked it as an option.

rainmaker2

5 posts

2 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Nice that, however If it’s going to be used around town better to have something without SPASM, but PASM OK.

Adam.

27,396 posts

256 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Venosta said:
Thank you
2+2 very useful for 3 people or 4 on short journeys roof down.
how do you get 4 people in a 911 cab? if they have legs

Venosta

Original Poster:

75 posts

9 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Targas look great but they don’t work as 2 + 1s or 2 + 2s for short distances roof open in the way Cabrios do, because of the fixed glass rear screen. Anyone adult sized is folded both horizontally and vertically. In the Cabrio, roof open, rear passengers have infinite headroom