Cayman R Chat

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J66JBo said:

leemanning said:

If anyone is considering a purchase, I think I'm contemplating moving out of mine. Manual, buckets, spyders plus all the rest of the right options.

What colour is it?

What he said. I might be interested - sounds like nice car.

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leemanning said:

J66JBo said:

What colour is it?

It's Basalt Black with silver accents

It's not my old car is it?

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leemanning said:

I don’t know if I’m honest! I bought it from RPM last year if that helps. RE12 number plate

OMG! I think it it is. Did you get it with really low mileage like 16k or so?

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J-P said:

leemanning said:

I don’t know if I’m honest! I bought it from RPM last year if that helps. RE12 number plate

OMG! I think it it is. Did you get it with really low mileage like 16k or so?

Actually, I sold it about 4 years ago with 16k miles.

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leemanning said:

Yep, that’s the one! It’s on 22k miles now.

When buying it I had the short shift & sport chrono fitted, so it’s the perfect sporty spec now!

If anyone is interested let me know ASAP as it may well be getting part ex’d imminently

PM me how much you want for it

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Worth keeping an eye on - at £30k, that's a bargain!

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Andyoz said:

Is sound important to you?

^^This....

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squirdan said:

Not a CR but will be interesting to see how quickly this sells - low miles but odd spec.

https://www.lawtonbrook.co.uk/listings/porsche-box...

Think I'd pick the Ashgood car over the Lawton one all day every day!

https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/Porsche-...

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Andyoz said:

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squirdan said:

Not a CR but will be interesting to see how quickly this sells - low miles but odd spec.

https://www.lawtonbrook.co.uk/listings/porsche-box...

Think I'd pick the Ashgood car over the Lawton one all day every day!

https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/Porsche-...

Big money for a Spyder with wrong wheels...

True, but it's very low miles and otherwise great spec - I'd want the PCCBs too though!

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squirdan said:

Andyoz said:

J-P said:

squirdan said:

Not a CR but will be interesting to see how quickly this sells - low miles but odd spec.

https://www.lawtonbrook.co.uk/listings/porsche-box...

Think I'd pick the Ashgood car over the Lawton one all day every day!

https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/Porsche-...

Big money for a Spyder with wrong wheels...

Funny old world - we all thought it was odd spec and top money - deposit taken !

Good car - also Ashgood were willing to swap the wheels

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squirdan said:

I should have been clearer - the Lawton Brook one has gone ! PDK plus pccb plus comfort seats

Wow - it was well-priced. I wouldnt have taken it with those seats though.

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breakfan said:

Toyota GR86 + some money in the bank

Perhaps not an 'upgrade' over a CR but its got a lot going for it... Old school recipe (manual, NA, RWD, LSD) with a few welcome modern touches like Apple CarPlay. Reasonably practical and a good 100kg lighter than a CR. The lack of any maintenance costs and the 10 year warranty really appeal. UK allocation sold out in 1 hour so should hold its value very well.

I'm going down the same route. Although, I went for a red car.

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breakfan said:

Yep, I think the online-only “first come first served” ordering system was the fairest way to do things, but the communication from Toyota up to that point was a bit of a shambles. Can understand why some are p*ssed off. I was on their marketing lists and didn’t receive a single email announcing anything. It’s only because of the forums that I managed to secure one.

That's interesting, I did and it was clear launching at 10:00am on 20th.

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frayz said:

deltamikealpha said:

To be honest with the amount of traffic on the roads there's a lot to be said for less power.

One of the reasons mine is going other than for hopefully impending house is that there's very little space to use it on the road, and the expense isn't something I can deal with on track.

I've actually chosen my little MX5 NC over my R several times because you can drive it a lot harder on the road and not be frustrated half as much by the other traffic, and when it is clear, you still aren't far over the limit whilst having a lot of fun.

Cayman hasn't been with me for nearly a month now (sale or return) and I haven't once thought 'wow, I wish I could go out in it' .. kinda sad really ??

Similarly how i feel about driving the Clio. Its hard to extract the Caymans performance on the road to any meaningful degree. I urge anyone who hasn't done so to track their Cayman, even if its just once. They totally come alive in that environment and you see just how capable they are. Driving one on the road thereafter is a bit of a "meh" experience because you're just so far from what the car can do. Feeling an R on its limits and how beautifully it moves about on circuit really is the Rs greatest feeling. Certainly where i live in Essex, that's just not safe or possible to do on the public highway.

Totally agree with this. The R on a circuit is really awesome!

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bencollins4 said:

Well I can see why it’s still for sale!

Same...

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julian987R said:

bencollins4 said:

Well I can see why it’s still for sale!

How so? as the spec is epic and the price is very fair all things considered.

You have to really want a green one to pay £60k for a car that can be had for around £40k. I know it's low mileage and a good spec but £60k is at least £10k over-priced IMHO. But let's see...

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julian987R said:

breakfan said:

julian987R said:

How so? as the spec is epic and the price is very fair all things considered.

If the price was fair it wouldn’t still be for sale after 7 months!

If the head is doing all the work then yes I agree, but if the heart comes into it and that colour is what one lusts for then the premium feels fair to me.
It has got to command some sort of premium... and a few K, even £5K isn't going to be enough to convince the owner to sell it. If it was yours, you'd put on a significant premium I am sure.

I would definitely put a premium on it but not £20k - but as you say, it's not really for sale.

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bencollins4 said:

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julian987R said:

breakfan said:

julian987R said:

How so? as the spec is epic and the price is very fair all things considered.

If the price was fair it wouldn’t still be for sale after 7 months!

If the head is doing all the work then yes I agree, but if the heart comes into it and that colour is what one lusts for then the premium feels fair to me.
It has got to command some sort of premium... and a few K, even £5K isn't going to be enough to convince the owner to sell it. If it was yours, you'd put on a significant premium I am sure.

I would definitely put a premium on it but not £20k - but as you say, it's not really for sale.

Ok, so it’s the only one in that colour as it was not popular when new. Why not price it at £100k then? Or £250k? You can’t just name your price (and sell it) because of a unique colour. He may get some interest at £50k but he’s having a laugh at £60k.

Completely agree - and the comment not to bother contacting him if you're interested but don't want to pay £60k to me means it's not really for sale.

It's like saying my house is for sale for £10mn - it's completely unique, best house on the road even and only about 2 miles from where houses actually sell for north of £10mn - however, given that houses on my road sell for about £600k - £800k, I reckon it'll be on sale for a long time at £10mn

Having said that if somebody were to offer me £10mn for it, guess what? Sold!

You can buy anything you want with enough money, even if it's not actually for sale. This car is waiting for somebody with more money than sense OR for the market to appreciate significantly to his price. As Ben says, why not put it up for £100k or £250k? I reckon he'll get just as many bites!

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julian987R said:

To those questioning the price and selling intentions of Buds viper green R….

“…. just to say that yes I would sell for £60k, no I don't need to sell it and I paid £54k for it in 2018 and have done 5k miles in it since, so I reckon £60k is pretty fair money.

To all the people suggesting this is 20k over a car in another colour you are clearly deluded, please show me a 20k mile car with all the spec sold recently for 40k. They haven't, they have been 50k quid, so really not to bad. Regards colour, try buying a Viper green 997.1 RS without a £40k premium over a black or orange one, and eleven of those made the UK, yet alone worldwide.

Anyway, not bothered if I keep it, booked a driving holiday to the Alps and Pyrenees in June so will need a car of some sort.”

See…told you!

I think that he has mis-understood the point. A Cayman R can be had for £40k - a low mileage one is worth more, nobody is denying that. A PTS car is worth more still, completely agree - but £60K? That's too high a premium. But as I said, it's not really for sale.

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julian987R said:

bencollins4 said:

The point is it isn’t worth £60k, that’s why it’s still for sale 7 months later. Doesn’t make any difference at all what he paid, none at all! I would say £50k is absolutely plenty.

You seem to be on a different planet to the rest of us sir……!

but white R with the factory red Spyders was £50K and as epic as that one is, it wasn't PTS.

Was that a private sale or from dealer? Also PTS was a £3k option back then, so if you're agreeing that a car with low mileage as the right spec is £50k - a PTS one is worth a fraction more.